A Hoax Question

[queentonic]

I strongly reacted to Trump referring to the Coronavirus as a "hoax". A lot of us are going to lose family members, friends and working associates (perhaps even among ourselves) if this virus goes pandemic. For the President to refer to it as a hoax is beyond irresponsible because of how many people will believe it - both his followers and other people too ignorant to know the difference. I can only hope that there will be serious push back from the American Medical Association, the nurses' union and anyone else in a position of power. But my question is this, did any of you get as strong a reaction as I did? I imagine so, but it would be nice to hear from you. I feel totally isolated right now wondering if this insanity will keep going on and on until the clock finally runs out on Trump and the Grim Reaper of Time finally catches up with him.

[dewsgirl]

1. You are not alone, he is beyond dangerous. We have all been

saying varying degrees of that phrase, for the past 3 years. This week that became earth shatteringly real. I'm not a big fan of Michael Moore, but his reaction sums up my feelings on the matter.

[malaise]

6. Watched him last night

He was excellent

[kentuck]

13. "enforced ignorance"

It is Trump's lies and division that are creating doubts and anxiety, in my opinion. In some people, it creates fears.

The majority of America know this, I am convinced.

[Ilsa]

24. This is the dangerous part of his narcissism.

He is reckless because it suits his ambitions, regardless of the impact on others.

[duforsure]

2. His comment claiming its a hoax

Will come back to haunt him after its replayed for all to see and hear , and now suggesting more tax cuts which will benefit him and the wealthy not the poor or middle class, but he'll again lie claiming it as the truth. trumps promoting propaganda just like putin and Kim and others ruthless dictators do, and attacks the truth because it exposes them as brutal and corrupt liars and frauds. The markets are partly dropping from him claiming bs excuses , and his lying about it makes everyone not trust him on anything, and we're seeing the results of investors leaving the market from zero confidence in him to take care of greater serious problems he's causing from his cuts, and now muzzling the truth from the experts. trump will use this probable pandemic as a weapon against us, and to keep himself in office by declaration if need be.

[Scarsdale]

14. Wouldn't it be sad

if tRump or a member of his family came down with this "hoax"? I would feel so very sad. (not), Seeing Mulvaney smirking and telling people to ignore the warnings is an eye opener. I thought he was on his way out, after exposing the truth about the quid pro quo? Maybe the WH is running out of incompetent people to put in high office? Well, there is always Jared or even Ivanka.

[uponit7771]

3. Yes 750 million people in China were quarantined for weeks (link) that's a big hit to world GDP

https://www.npr.org/2020/02/18/806868972/coronavirus-lockdown-democratic-caucuses-and-primaries-ahead-weinstein-trial

This is being down played big time

[empedocles]

8. Rather large 'hoax' - 750 million

[empedocles]

10. traitortrump is saying 'turn off the tv's''

The markets and the virus may get through to some of his 40%

[Girard442]

4. We're in North Korea now.

Everything Glorious Leader says is true. Anyone who contradicts him is an Enemy of the State and must be punished and silenced.

[global1]

5. If His Supporters Believe Him They Will Not Take.....

the precautions they'll need to protect themselves and that will put all others in danger. It could extend the spread of this virus and in turn kill more people.

That is what scares me about him calling this a hoax.

His lying and conspiracy theories are killing people now.

[Scarsdale]

15. I wonder how many people will

hesitate to go for medical help, for lack of insurance? How many people will get saddled with huge medical bills for treatment?

[MontanaMama]

20. I just posted this same thing on another thread.

So many Americans will decline getting tested/treated because they’re uninsured, underinsured or have high deductibles. Millions of people don’t have paid sick days and live paycheck to paycheck and cannot afford to stay home. Factor all that into how many these people work in the service industry and have constant contact with the public and it is a recipe for nothing good.

[Maggiemayhem]

19. I read comments on local blogs

Indeed, there are people claiming the virus is a hoax among his supporters.

[johnthewoodworker]

7. He is speaking to his base. Anyone with a brain knows that his corrupt lies have nothing to do

with reality. Although it is dismaying that the media can't qualify white house sound bites by introducing them with the phrase; 'Can you believe this shit'.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

12. That's no excuse for lying, dissembling & misdirecting in a major medical crisis,

... like this seems to becoming.

[jmg257]

9. They were just talking about this on CNN - I got

The impression he was callings the Democratic reaction to the administrations efforts a hoax - Dems saying they aren’t handling it well.

Guess I’ll have to listen to it - ugh!

[Shermann]

17. The coronavirus hoax is the hoax

Not Trump's most eloquent moment, but taken out of context a bit

[kentuck]

11. The coronavirus is not a "hoax".

We have not seen any large-number effect yet, but there is a lot of fear and trepidation. Why is that?

People simply cannot trust a liar. When something this unforeseen happens, people cannot believe what they hear from this White House. It creates anxiety, and fear in some people.

The people's fears are real. They are mostly created from a lack of trust, in my opinion.

We should keep our eyes and minds open.

[Aussie105]

16. People simply cannot trust a liar.

Trump doesn't lie though.
He is simply putting forward his version of reality.

Whereas most people look at the world around them, make observations, and decide on the rules that govern reality, and work out what they need to do to adjust and survive in that reality, Trump does the opposite.

Trump simply thinks about how reality should be, and sees that in the world around him. The words he speaks reflect his version of reality. That there is much evidence that contradicts his version of reality doesn't register.

Corona virus is a hoax. Trump really believes that. If people get sick and start dropping dead, his vision will come up with a different interpretation. And his explanation will no doubt involve the evils he sees in the world: Democrats, Hillary, Obama, and the Deep State.

In short,he is a loaf short of a dozen, a brick short of a load, a nutter, a fruit cake, a Messiah complex looking for an admiring audience, a total wreck of a human being, has bats in the belfry, . . . . etc.

[Laelth]

28. It's a textbook case of a Cluster B personality disorder.

Nothing more, and nothing less. People with Cluster B disorders are an insidious menace (at best) to those around them, or they can be downright dangerous and deadly depending on the severity of the disorder. These disorders are progressive--they get worse over time. Trump is an advanced Narcissist at this stage in his life.

-Laelth

[patricia92243]

18. My reaction was fright. We need a president.

[gibraltar72]

21. Yeah I did.

If you consider it a hoax and that is where you're coming from. How do you put effort and dollars into it?

[AllyCat]

22. I work in a hospital that keeps touting CDC recommendations.

We have no plan. It’s really scary.

[barbtries]

23. of course i did.

it's beyond irresponsible. and it's not just him. he has his surrogates out there pushing this extremely dangerous propaganda and saying despicable things about Democrats. I've been tweeting about this today.

i think we're on our own with this virus. the response from this government appears to be gearing up to look more like the response to the plague in medieval times than a proper one.

[bucolic_frolic]

25. MAGAts believe MAGAts have total immunity

No sense in trying to convince them otherwise. Just agree with them, there's nothing you can do about it.

[samnsara]

26. a lot of his deplorables will get very ill as well..

[Afromania]

27. yes, its gut punchingly negligent malfecense.

[happybird]

29. Yes. It upset me terribly

My mother has COPD and some other health issues. 2 years ago today, she had just been transferred from the ICU, where she was in an induced coma for a month, to a specialty rehab facility to help her get off the ventilator collar. After a couple weeks there, she spent another month in a different physical rehab facility learning how to walk again and regaining her motor skills. A cold which turned into bronchitis is what put her in the ICU. Covid 19 would likely kill her. She’s only 69.

We are so very thankful she recovered. The doctors in the ICU were pretty grim about her chances. It still makes me tear up.

We’ve never been a family that runs to the doctor (we used to joke that a bone has to be visible or arterial blood spray present for one of us to go to the ER), but we learned our lesson. Mom waited too long to seek help for her chest cold it nearly killed her. By being extra careful to limit exposure to crowds and laying low during flu season, she’s been able to stay healthy since her release. Now, the first sign of a sniffle and she’s at the doc. I’m dread the day the virus arrives in our area. With the long asymptomatic period, it could spread through the community before anyone is aware it’s happening- especially when those in charge are trying to downplay it.

The Orange Asshat calling this a hoax and the woefully inadequate “plan” has both me and my father pissed off beyond measure.

Our plan is lots and lots and lots of handwashing (we are near-obsessive hand-washers, anyway) and Mom will be self-isolating at home. She’s retired so that’s not an issue. Dad is also retired, so he’s limiting his trips out of the house as much as possible. We have her stocked up on Netflix, baking supplies, books, and crossword puzzles.

[moondust]

30. "Public endangerment

is usually applied to crimes which place the public in some form of danger, although that danger can be more or less severe according to the crime. It is punished most frequently in Canada."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endangerment

I would think that the highest-ranking "public official" in a country endangering the entire population by referring to a potentially deadly pandemic as a "hoax" would be among the "most severe."

[MoonRiver]

31. Dr. Anthony Fauci needs to resign IMMEDIATELY from Pence's bogus task force!

Now that is a real hoax.

[ehrnst]

32. He was referring to the *Democrats' criticism of his handling of the outbreak* as the hoax

not the actual outbreak.

He assigned Pence to be in charge of handling the outbreak, so he has acknowledged that it exists.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6612058/donald-trump-coronavirus-democrats-hoax/

[keithbvadu2]

33. If it's such a hoax, why are you spending so much money on it?

If it's such a hoax, why are you spending so much money on it?

[Wounded Bear]

34. My reaction is not that strong, but it is very irresponsible of him to downplay this...

while the lethality rate may not be as high as SARS or MERS, it does seem to be more lethal than flu, and those with pre-existing conditions are very vulnerable to this kind of threat.

Yes, Trump and his admin will get people killed, and it is reprehensible.

[sarcasmo]

35. #Cult45 members are a bunch of Darwin Award Winners.