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MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:25 PM Feb 2020

Microsoft Windows 10 Version 1909 Is Here

I'm posting this in General Discussion because it will affect many, many DUers.

If you are running Windows 10, you have either received or soon will receive a major update to Version 1909. This update is being done differently than previous ones. You will know it is available through a blue box that appears on your monitor telling you that your current Windows 10 version is expiring.

There will be buttons in that blue box: Restart Now, Schedule Update, and Update Later, or words to that effect. This box will reappear from time to time until you let it restart your PC.

That new method might be confusing to some, but it is a legitimate update from Microsoft. I checked the Microsoft Update site before allowing that blue box to restart my PC and install the update.

When you do Restart, the update can take an hour or longer to complete. Before clicking the Restart Now button, I strongly suggest you shut down all open windows to make sure the process goes smoothly. Windows Update will shut things down for you, but it is always better to make sure you have done so in advance. For example, I had a Notepad window minimized with unsaved copy and paste items in it. The update process forced it closed, after notifying me, but the blue box and Restart Now button were gone, when I clicked Cancel. I Restarted manually, and the update continued.

Be patient with this update. It seems like it stalls from time to time, with no hard drive activity. Your PC will restart multiple times before returning you to the Windows desktop. Once you log back into Windows, the install continues, so be patient again.

What the Update Does:

Mostly things you won't ever notice. It improves online security in some ways, and adds a few new features to Windows. I looked up the changes on the Internet, and none of them apply to me. However, you do need to do the update to receive later security updates, however you have Windows Update set up to apply them.

Potential issues with this update:

1. If you are using a hardwired Ethernet cable to connect to a router, you might not have an active connection after the restart. To fix this, you can right click the Network Access or the Globe icon at the bottom right corner of your taskbar, and then click Troubleshoot Problems. If that does not work, reset your router by unplugging it's power cable and then plug it back in and Troubleshoot Problems as described above in this paragraph.

2. If you are using Classic Shell, it will reconfigure itself with a notification. Windows may tell you that "An Administrator has blocked the program." If that happens, just close the notification window. Classic Shell will work fine.

To check what version of Windows 10 you have:
1. Click Start
2. Click PC Settings or Settings
3. Click System in the next window
4. Click About in the next window and scroll down, if necessary to see your Windows version.

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Microsoft Windows 10 Version 1909 Is Here (Original Post) MineralMan Feb 2020 OP
Thank you! n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #1
No problem. MineralMan Feb 2020 #3
Thank you! Bookmarking for ez reference. abqtommy Feb 2020 #2
My pleasure. MineralMan Feb 2020 #4
You should really tell people this is satire. hunter Feb 2020 #5
Not satire. Just a Windows 10 Update. MineralMan Feb 2020 #6
I find Widows irritating. hunter Feb 2020 #31
A lot of people already have 1909. It's been out since November. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2020 #8
I received in mid-December Dem2 Feb 2020 #10
Thanks for the additional information. MineralMan Feb 2020 #12
I think they consider the readiness of the machine for an update Dem2 Feb 2020 #15
Thanks. MineralMan Feb 2020 #11
You can check to see which version you were on previously. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #13
Thanks. I probably won't bother, though. MineralMan Feb 2020 #16
I think I made that update about a month ago. mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2020 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author NurseJackie Feb 2020 #14
Thanks Apollo Zeus Feb 2020 #17
K & R...thanks for the heads up! Wounded Bear Feb 2020 #18
updates wipe out any changes you have made to windows. all those little things you do to make msongs Feb 2020 #19
It depends on what you've done and how. MineralMan Feb 2020 #21
I've bookmarked this and printed out a hardcopy LuckyCharms Feb 2020 #20
If you get the Classic Shell nag, it will return localroger Feb 2020 #22
Thanks. I might do that, or not. MineralMan Feb 2020 #23
Thanks! Talitha Feb 2020 #24
I recommend shutting down all applications you have running MineralMan Feb 2020 #29
I'm pretty sure Windows 10 is the longest running Windows ever Polybius Feb 2020 #25
Most Important item in this update: IcyPeas Feb 2020 #26
Oh, too cool! MineralMan Feb 2020 #28
Poop! I'm on 1903. Thanks for the info MM!!! nt woodsprite Feb 2020 #27
Still on Win7 on - OhZone Feb 2020 #30
I still have a Windows 98 computer with Netscape Navigator Polybius Feb 2020 #35
Looks like i'm already on it Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #32
Well, every evening I do maintenance on my son's win 10 machine, and check for updates. abqtommy Feb 2020 #33
I see this morning that I have another update that MineralMan Feb 2020 #36
THANK YOU ! Captain Zero Feb 2020 #34
Update: When I connected this morning, I clicked on the update app to see if mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2020 #37
I'm glad I could help! MineralMan Mar 2020 #38

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
4. My pleasure.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:31 PM
Feb 2020

I checked this on the Microsoft site, since it was a new method for the update. It's OK.

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
6. Not satire. Just a Windows 10 Update.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:39 PM
Feb 2020

A lot of people, though, will think it's something malevolent, since MSFT changed its method for distributing it and informing users. I was concerned, until I went to the Microsoft website and checked. Then, I installed it.

The blue box popped up over an Internet site on my browser, so, I was justifiably skeptical.

hunter

(38,328 posts)
31. I find Widows irritating.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:22 PM
Feb 2020

Lately I haven't had any work requiring Windows so my Windows laptop seems to spend most of its time updating.

My main desktop machine runs Debian. My Chromebook gets the most use. My hobby machines are a Raspberry Pi and a few other ARM based computers.

Your post reminded me that I hadn't started Windows lately.

If I didn't have an unlimited DSL internet connection, or multiple computers, Windows updates would be frustrating, especially if they broke my machine or messed up too many of my personal settings.

From my own perspective Windows is just a giant hairball of horrors. I know I'm prejudiced however. I fell in love with BSD the first time I used it in the late 'seventies. When I switched from Windows 98SE to Linux it was like going home again.

I don't like helping people with their Windows problems, even when I know the answers. People are much less likely to screw up their Chromebooks.

Yes, there are plenty of compelling reasons to use Widows machines, but not in my personal life.



TwilightZone

(25,485 posts)
7. A lot of people already have 1909. It's been out since November.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:42 PM
Feb 2020

When it's received depends on a few things, including Windows Update settings and the version of Windows 10 people are currently on. Those receiving it now are mostly on earlier versions of Windows 10, like 1809 or prior, that are being bumped up to the latest version because Microsoft is ending support of those previous versions soon.

Info on the November release of 1909:

https://www.computerworld.com/article/3453343/microsoft-finally-delivers-service-pack-like-windows-10-1909.html

Info on compulsory upgrades:

https://www.computerworld.com/article/3489343/microsoft-begins-windows-10s-1809-to-1909-compulsory-upgrade.html

The next version, Windows 10 2004, is scheduled for release in April.

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/windows-10-april-2020-update-everything-you-need-to-know/

Response to TwilightZone (Reply #7)

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
12. Thanks for the additional information.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:50 PM
Feb 2020

I have automatic updates turned on, so I don't pay much attention. The blue box got my attention, though. As always, I checked before doing the update. I wish Microsoft would identify itself in those pop-ups better. It would sure be easy for a malware app to use a similar strategy to get itself installed.

This update did not show up in my Windows Notifications area. I thought people might be confused, so I posted.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
15. I think they consider the readiness of the machine for an update
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:58 PM
Feb 2020

In my case, I was way behind - like 1803 I think was my last update before I initiated the process by D/L update assistant. My phone is constantly providing stories on the disasters of W10 and it's updates, so I've become a bit skeptical of the entire process.

I also have a W7 machine that I was supposed to receive a free W10 update. It never came. Years later (last fall) I finally looked into it and got directed to a website saying my machine was incompatible with W10. I wish they had told me that years ago.

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
11. Thanks.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:46 PM
Feb 2020

I don't really follow Windows news any more. Regular security updates happen automatically. This one was different, so I checked before installing.

I've never checked my Windows 10 version before, so I don't know what I had previously.

I appreciate the additional information.

TwilightZone

(25,485 posts)
13. You can check to see which version you were on previously.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:55 PM
Feb 2020

Go to Windows Update settings, then click on View Update History. It will show the major releases at the top and will show previous ones you've done: 1903, 1809, etc.

They're usually available twice a year. The first two digits are supposed to be the year and the second two digits the month, but some have been delayed. 1909, for example, was planned for September 2019, but released in November.

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
16. Thanks. I probably won't bother, though.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 01:02 PM
Feb 2020

While I used to be a Contributing Editor and columnist for PC World, and had to keep up with such things, now I'm just a user, and don't bother to do that any longer.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,621 posts)
9. I think I made that update about a month ago.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:45 PM
Feb 2020

I'm at work, so I don't have my laptop with me.

Thanks for the OP anyway, MM.

Response to MineralMan (Original post)

msongs

(67,443 posts)
19. updates wipe out any changes you have made to windows. all those little things you do to make
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 01:27 PM
Feb 2020

it work better or be more user friendly are eliminated during upgrades and you have to do them all over if you can remember what they were

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
21. It depends on what you've done and how.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 01:38 PM
Feb 2020

I haven't noticed any changes to my customization of Windows 10.

localroger

(3,631 posts)
22. If you get the Classic Shell nag, it will return
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 01:49 PM
Feb 2020

...every time you boot the machine. The only way to stop this is to disable User Account Control (UAC) by editing the registry. Once Classic Shell has reconfigured itself you can turn UAC back on but I leave it off because it does very little of practical benefit and is a massive nuisance. Just google "Windows 10 disable UAC" and look for instructions that involve editing the registry (the other methods that some put forth don't work).

Talitha

(6,618 posts)
24. Thanks!
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 01:53 PM
Feb 2020

I'm still on 1903 (thanks for the info on how to check - I hadn't a clue).

Is it best to get offline before we click 'Restart'?

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
29. I recommend shutting down all applications you have running
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 02:15 PM
Feb 2020

before restarting to install an update. You don't strictly have to, but I think it's a good idea.

IcyPeas

(21,910 posts)
26. Most Important item in this update:
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 02:03 PM
Feb 2020

windows key and period brings up the emoji panel. 🙄

🍕😎

also has a Kaomoji choice. (I never knew these things had a name)

¯_(ツ )_/¯

(❁´◡`❁ )

^_^

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
30. Still on Win7 on -
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:20 PM
Feb 2020

my "main" desktop from 2015.

I bought it for that very reason. WIN7 Pro, after my ex got forced into WIN10 by the Microsoft virus, I mean, update process.

I do have WIN10 on my laptop, and it's Oh-K, but for my main stuffs I use my 2015 Win7 and love it.

I'm also on Firefox 56, cause I like having a bottom status bar and my addons mostly work. I also have Waterfox cause they aint screwing up the addons like the new Firefox

Oh well.

Polybius

(15,489 posts)
35. I still have a Windows 98 computer with Netscape Navigator
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 02:02 AM
Feb 2020

It still works, but many sites don't load right. I miss the old net.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
33. Well, every evening I do maintenance on my son's win 10 machine, and check for updates.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 12:25 AM
Feb 2020

Tonight we got 4 updates, 2 of them to 1909 and one of those took a looooong time to install. I didn't see any menu of choices this time or previously when we must have installed the original 1909 but
I'm satisfied that MineralMan has given us some good info and a heads up. Thanks, Mr. Man!

disclaimer: My person computer runs win 7 and I like it like that. BTW, I got updates on it all through the month of February 2020...

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,621 posts)
37. Update: When I connected this morning, I clicked on the update app to see if
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 02:16 PM
Mar 2020

I already had the update. I did not. I downloaded and installed this an three other updates.

Thank you.

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