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spinbaby

(15,090 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:28 PM Feb 2020

OMG #Wattlegate!

https://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2020/02/wattlegate-is-president-digitally.html


“ #Wattlegate: Is the President Digitally Touching Up His Neck? An Investigation
It started as a stupid joke, as these things do. I watched a video that Donald Trump had posted to his Twitter account where he was talking directly to the camera right outside the White House. He's done a bunch of these, and they have the air of a needy vlogger desperate for likes (which, to be fair, is what Trump was before president).

“I was struck by how it was filmed, making it look like he was missing something, so I tweeted the dumb joke "Where's your fucking neck?" That's a Rocky Horror reference for you youngs reading this, from when it was a midnight movie staple and we'd shout things at the screen. Give us a break. We didn't have the internet, and porn took some effort to obtain. We'd yell the neck line any time the narrator appeared.”
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OMG #Wattlegate! (Original Post) spinbaby Feb 2020 OP
Can we make #wattlegate trend? gratuitous Feb 2020 #1
from the article ... Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #2
Yikes! Baitball Blogger Feb 2020 #3
"Donald Trump's Neck Vagina Is The Worst Thing You'll See All Day And Maybe Ever" klook Feb 2020 #9
Pretty obvious. He needs to hire a better CGI company. Liberal In Texas Feb 2020 #19
OMYGRD! That is SO BAD! Maru Kitteh Feb 2020 #20
It's like watching Clutch Cargo Poiuyt Feb 2020 #24
All creases below his nose KT2000 Feb 2020 #4
Kick this one. Kingofalldems Feb 2020 #5
Flipping hilarious!!! Alliepoo Feb 2020 #6
They must D_Master81 Feb 2020 #7
They spend hours and that's all they get? CaptYossarian Feb 2020 #15
His a$$hole is real. EndlessWire Feb 2020 #21
What was that Carly Simon song? 2naSalit Feb 2020 #8
"You're Such A Pain"? ret5hd Feb 2020 #10
On a turkey it's known as a "snood" - I like that better than "wattle"! George II Feb 2020 #11
Meat Curtains Marcuse Feb 2020 #12
In the Prime of Bovinity, "Hey, Trump! Your dewlap is dragging!" bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #13
Looks like the same technology they used for The Irishman movie. KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2020 #14
Thanks for the link. I haven't seen the movie but heard it was remarkable for the CGI . . . Journeyman Feb 2020 #22
Hey, y'all - there's a whole Twitter page dedicated to the "Trump Neck Vagina" - link below: scarletwoman Feb 2020 #16
OMG, Haggis for Breakfast Feb 2020 #17
Excuse me a minute... Initech Feb 2020 #18
FROG'S NECK bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #23

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
7. They must
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:04 PM
Feb 2020

They must spend hours a week making this guy look presentable. From his fake spray tan to his stupid combover haircut there isn’t anything about him that’s real.

bucolic_frolic

(43,173 posts)
13. In the Prime of Bovinity, "Hey, Trump! Your dewlap is dragging!"
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 09:37 PM
Feb 2020
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Doolap

dew·lap (do͞o?lăp?, dyo͞o? n.
1. A fold of loose skin hanging from the neck of certain animals.
2. A pendulous part similar to this, such as the wattle of a bird.
3. A fold of loose skin hanging from the neck of a person.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,491 posts)
14. Looks like the same technology they used for The Irishman movie.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 09:47 PM
Feb 2020

Digital facial modification to make people look like any age they want.

This was discussed extensively in the Netflix special on the making of that movie.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Irishman#Visual_effects

(snip 1)

There's a great deal of CGI because we're doing this youthification of De Niro, Pesci, and Al Pacino. They had to be CGI [...] Why I'm concerned, we're all concerned is that we're so used to watching them as the older faces. When we put them all together, it cuts back and forth [...] Now, it's real. Now, I'm seeing it. Now, certain shots need more work on the eyes, need more work on why these exactly the same eyes from the plate shot, but the wrinkles and things have changed. Does it change the eyes at all? If that's the case, what was in the eyes that I liked? Was it intensity? Was it gravitas? Was it threat?

—Martin Scorsese speaking on The A24 Podcast on May 15, 2019


(snip 2)
Visual Effects

Industrial Light & Magic and visual effects supervisor Pablo Helman handled the effects for the film. In August 2015, Scorsese and De Niro made a test reel by recreating a scene from Goodfellas (1990), to see if the de-aging could work. Scorsese said that "the risk was there, and that was it. We just tried to make the film. After sitting on the couch for ten years [...] we finally had a way." By the time the film was released, Pacino was 79 years old, with De Niro and Pesci both 76 years old. Scorsese and De Niro made the decision not to use motion tracking markers. Helman said, "He's not going to wear a helmet with little cameras in there... He's going to want to be in the moment with Joe Pesci and Al Pacino on set, with no markers on him. So, if you're going to capture the performance, how are you going to do that?" All scenes that required the de-aging visual effects were shot digitally with a custom three-camera rig. Helman and his team had spent two years analyzing old films to determine how the actors should look at various ages.

In March 2018, speaking about the de-aging process, Pacino told IndieWire: "I was playing Jimmy Hoffa at the age of 39, they're doing that on a computer [...] we went through all these tests and things [...] someone would come up to me and say, 'You're 39.' [You'd recall] some sort of memory of 39, and your body tries to acclimate to that and think that way. They remind you of it." Nicholas Rapold, writing for Film Comment, gave the de-aging CGI approach used in the filming a mixed assessment, stating that: "De Niro's rosy complexion as a truck driver 'kid' recalls a tinted postcard photo more than a twentysomething person, and I can't explain away the same de-aged De Niro curb-stomping a grocer, looking more like the septuagenarian star he is than a ferociously protective thirtysomething dad."

The extent of the VFX used in the film for de-aging was further made evident during the award season when the amount of VFX was quantified in an article stating: "Once again technology caught up with need when Industrial Light & Magic (ILM) developed an innovative, digital de-aging process without facial impediments [...] The impressive results put ILM on the Academy's longlist this week for the VFX Oscar [...] The costly VFX de-aging, therefore, became the tech centerpiece, with 1,750 shots created for two and a half hours of footage."


KY..........

Journeyman

(15,033 posts)
22. Thanks for the link. I haven't seen the movie but heard it was remarkable for the CGI . . .
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 05:04 AM
Feb 2020

I'll have to check it out.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
17. OMG,
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:29 PM
Feb 2020

I will NEVER be able to look at him again and not see all these pictures.

The video alteration of his neck is so obvious. How vain can any one person be ?

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