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bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:09 PM Feb 2020

You're Likely to Get the Coronavirus (The Atlantic)

You’re Likely to Get the Coronavirus
As the virus spreads, it’s becoming evident that infected people may have mild symptoms, or none at all.
The Atlantic
By JAMES HAMBLIN
10:39 AM ET

...Coronaviruses are similar to influenza viruses in that they are both single strands of RNA. Four coronaviruses commonly infect humans, causing colds. These are believed to have evolved in humans to maximize their own spread—which means sickening, but not killing, people. By contrast, the two prior novel coronavirus outbreaks—SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) and MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome, named for where the first outbreak occurred)—were picked up from animals, as was H5N1. These diseases were highly fatal to humans...COVID-19 is already reported to have killed more than twice that number. With its potent mix of characteristics, this virus is unlike most that capture popular attention: It is deadly, but not too deadly. It makes people sick, but not in predictable, uniquely identifiable ways. Last week, 14 Americans tested positive on a cruise ship in Japan despite feeling fine—the new virus may be most dangerous because, it seems, it may sometimes cause no symptoms at all.

... The Harvard epidemiology professor Marc Lipsitch is exacting in his diction, even for an epidemiologist. Twice in our conversation he started to say something, then paused and said, “Actually, let me start again.” So it’s striking when one of the points he wanted to get exactly right was this: “I think the likely outcome is that it will ultimately not be containable.”

... On Saturday, Politico reported that the White House is preparing to ask Congress for $1 billion in emergency funding for a coronavirus response. This request, if it materialized, would come in the same month in which President Donald Trump released a new budget proposal that would cut key elements of pandemic preparedness—funding for the CDC, the NIH, and foreign aid. These long-term government investments matter because creating vaccines, antiviral medications, and other vital tools requires decades of serious investment, even when demand is low.

Italy, Iran, and South Korea are now among the countries reporting quickly growing numbers of detected COVID-19 infections. Many countries have responded with containment attempts, despite the dubious efficacy and inherent harms of China’s historically unprecedented crackdown. Certain containment measures will be appropriate, but widely banning travel, closing down cities, and hoarding resources are not realistic solutions for an outbreak that lasts years. All of these measures come with risks of their own. Ultimately some pandemic responses will require opening borders, not closing them. At some point the expectation that any area will escape effects of COVID-19 must be abandoned: The disease must be seen as everyone’s problem.


JAMES HAMBLIN, MD, is a staff writer at The Atlantic.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/02/covid-vaccine/607000/

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You're Likely to Get the Coronavirus (The Atlantic) (Original Post) bronxiteforever Feb 2020 OP
It's pandemic. Not officially but it will be. berni_mccoy Feb 2020 #1
If that's the case shanti Feb 2020 #2
I would say, Tucker08087 Feb 2020 #3
Sorry that you are going through this shanti Feb 2020 #6
As I saw suggested elsewhere, Dementia Donnie area51 Feb 2020 #4
+1 bronxiteforever Feb 2020 #5
So, what are your plans for the pandemic? spinbaby Feb 2020 #7
It really depends on how severe a case you get. bronxiteforever Feb 2020 #8
heh Skittles Feb 2020 #9
Almost like that Dan Brown novel, only the virus Ilsa Feb 2020 #10

shanti

(21,675 posts)
2. If that's the case
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:37 PM
Feb 2020

somebody in the WH will eventually get it. Not necessarily Chump, but lots of people work there.

Tucker08087

(621 posts)
3. I would say,
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:59 PM
Feb 2020

Given his health, constant traveling, and age, he’s in the group that should be concerned. He just traveled to India. They say they don’t have any cases. I have my doubts.
As a chemo patient, this virus does concern me. I am also in that group of individuals who need to keep a close check on the movement of the virus. I’m not wishing ill-health on Trump (or anyone, for that matter), but he is not prepared for this, he cut funding and eliminated Obama’s pandemic plan which included roles for the CDC, Homeland Security, and NSC to track, attack, and prepare for pandemics. Trump would just prefer to spew propaganda and misinformation, as if the virus wouldn’t dare come to this nation while he’s POTUS. He isn’t doing us any favors, and it’s already here.

area51

(11,909 posts)
4. As I saw suggested elsewhere, Dementia Donnie
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:03 PM
Feb 2020

can pull the funding he wants from his vanity wall project.

spinbaby

(15,090 posts)
7. So, what are your plans for the pandemic?
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:48 PM
Feb 2020

I plan to make sue my household is stocked with a couple of month’s worth of staples in case of quarantine.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
8. It really depends on how severe a case you get.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:16 PM
Feb 2020

You can be a carrier and feel fine. If you get seriously sick, in order to survive a person will need support measures at a hospital. 26 Italians are in ICU. If you need ICU, you are really sick. It has an unpredictable course right now. Quarantine won’t work. It is already running around lose in the world.

Cardiovascular health will matter if you are older. I think a sensible stockpile of staples sounds good. You really should have that in case of floods and nature weather issues. Also,if you get sick you probably won’t want to shop. I also think it would be good if we had US epidemiologists from the cdc,nsc and dhs working on this but Orange Nero has been cutting them for years. Mostly I just listen to the professional epidemiologists and physicians and adjust my life from there.

On a side note, I worry that the refugees from the Syrian conflict, being in poor physical condition, will suffer horribly. Those poor people.


The Italian authorities have at least 132 people in Italy infected with coronavirus, according to the head of the country’s Civil Protection agency, Angelo Borrelli. Of those cases, 26 people are in intensive care, two have died and one has recovered, he said.
https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-23-20-hnk-intl/h_cd0b00441cf9be7576b2843901666cf1

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
10. Almost like that Dan Brown novel, only the virus
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:29 PM
Feb 2020

Made as many as 33% of the population infertile. The "villain" released the virus to help control world population.

In the movie, the outcome was rosy, with Tom Hanks saving the day and preventing the release of the virus. Total copout. A true-to-book ending would have started discussions about population growth.

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