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This Gavin Newsom tweet... WTF??? (Original Post) Initech Feb 2020 OP
Not following you at all ... nt mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #1
Also, WTF??? brush Feb 2020 #2
Hey doc SDANation Feb 2020 #3
Yeah I'll take a Tesla Model S and an apartment next to Angels Stadium, thanks! Initech Feb 2020 #7
Newsom's tweet is realistic and moral. PufPuf23 Feb 2020 #4
Who would I present the script to? Nt VarryOn Feb 2020 #5
The patient who gives it to the state nt delisen Feb 2020 #6
It is difficult to put a cogent and clear statement into a Tweet. Caliman73 Feb 2020 #8
Conservatives have completely skewed the definition of socialism. Initech Feb 2020 #9
+1 2naSalit Feb 2020 #10
well said nt Grasswire2 Feb 2020 #15
I....er......what? Skittles Feb 2020 #11
That could open up a lot of potential for fraud. Initech Feb 2020 #12
I get the gist Skittles Feb 2020 #14
Not likely. When my doctor writes a prescription for something my plan doesn't cover Ms. Toad Feb 2020 #22
A hat tip to Governor Newsom. In my perfect world.... Brother Buzz Feb 2020 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Feb 2020 #16
Many of the homeless are unemployable. hunter Feb 2020 #21
ever learn about "metaphors?" hlthe2b Feb 2020 #17
apparently edhopper Feb 2020 #27
In the interests of fairness to a Democrat, and humanity, here's the full thread muriel_volestrangler Feb 2020 #18
So OK some low income housing permits Newsom TexasBlueDog Feb 2020 #19
I agree with this 100% hunter Feb 2020 #20
I don't mind this. EndlessWire Feb 2020 #23
Works for me. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2020 #24
Is this some call back to the real old days Renew Deal Feb 2020 #25
you just have to read the words... stillcool Feb 2020 #26

PufPuf23

(8,839 posts)
4. Newsom's tweet is realistic and moral.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:05 AM
Feb 2020

Newsom has gone way up in my regards.

The main problem I have with Newsom is his choice of former wife.

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
8. It is difficult to put a cogent and clear statement into a Tweet.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:15 AM
Feb 2020

Housing security is a MAJOR contributor to health or illness. I understand what he is trying to say, but he said it in a very clumsy way that can be attacked.

Also, That isn't socialist! It is so weird when people label everything socialist. A doctor prescribing housing is socialist? How?
I mean it is silly and simplistic, but socialist? Doctors prescribe a lot of things for their patients' well being. Durable medical equipment like beds, commodes, crutches, power chairs, HOUSING MODIFICATION, etc... Newsom is saying in a very ineffective way, that housing is a key to good health.

Socialism is when workers own the means of production and can mean that the government distributes goods in the Commons. I know that Trump supporters are dumb and will likely scream socialism, but let's not join them or help them.

Initech

(100,104 posts)
9. Conservatives have completely skewed the definition of socialism.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:22 AM
Feb 2020

So I am just trying to figure out their language.

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
14. I get the gist
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 01:03 AM
Feb 2020

that an unstable living environment is bad for your health

but this kind of stuff is just gold for repukes

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
22. Not likely. When my doctor writes a prescription for something my plan doesn't cover
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:26 PM
Feb 2020

I have the option of paying out of pocket for it - or not having it filled. Writing a prescription just means it is medically appropriate. It doesn't mean that someone else will pay for it.

Brother Buzz

(36,466 posts)
13. A hat tip to Governor Newsom. In my perfect world....
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:58 AM
Feb 2020

Doctors would be able to write prescriptions for housing.

Response to Initech (Original post)

hunter

(38,328 posts)
21. Many of the homeless are unemployable.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:20 PM
Feb 2020

That doesn't mean we should let them die on the streets.

We have to be realistic about that.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,364 posts)
18. In the interests of fairness to a Democrat, and humanity, here's the full thread
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 08:55 AM
Feb 2020
Doctors should be able to write prescriptions for housing the same way they do for insulin or antibiotics.

We need to start targeting social determinants of health. We need to start treating brain health like we do physical health.

What’s more fundamental to a person’s well being than a roof over their head?

10 million Californians—1 in 4—suffer from some type of behavioral health condition.

It’s not a narrow issue.

It’s not a new issue.

Physical health and brain health are inextricably linked.

And our healthcare system has been designed to treat only one of those.

Let’s be clear: Massive failures in our mental health system and disinvestment in our social safety net—exacerbated by widening income inequality and our housing shortage— has led us to where we are today: too many Californians left to live on our streets.

So, it's about homelessness. When you put up a strawman against this like "yeah I'll take a Tesla Model S and an apartment next to Angels Stadium, thanks!", you really do make yourself look very anti-Democratic. Congratulations. You echo the ghost of Ronald Reagan talking about "young bucks" buying T-bone steaks on welfare.

TexasBlueDog

(43 posts)
19. So OK some low income housing permits Newsom
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 11:28 AM
Feb 2020

Take all that free property the state got when the military bases were shut down and allow housing to be built. LOL, go into LA or SF or just about anywhere in CA and try to get low income housing permitted. Homeless problem? Allow housing to be built.

hunter

(38,328 posts)
20. I agree with this 100%
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:15 PM
Feb 2020

Insecure housing causes and aggravates severe health problems that end up costing taxpayers more in the long run than simple, safe, secure housing would.

Additionally, some level of supervision for the addicted and the mentally ill would also save money.

Right now we live in the worst of all possible worlds. People are often kept off the streets by putting them in jails and prisons which are very expensive ($80,000 a year in California) or they show up in the emergency room with $100,000 problems that could have been easily prevented with a few inexpensive meds and very mild supervision.

EndlessWire

(6,569 posts)
23. I don't mind this.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:06 PM
Feb 2020

If you ever had to put a stage 4 cancer victim out into the rain because he had managed to save up a lousy $50 against hunger, you'd understand. It's like when we strip people of everything because they have to be destitute before we'll feel sorry enough to help them.

I'm not a socialist, and I don't mind other people having lots of money. But, we need to figure out some system where people can be treated with dignity.

And, the other thing I always think about is, why can't we have building standards that accommodate emergency housing? I've seen some that look like dog igloos, only much bigger. There are all kinds of innovative and intriguing designs that would keep people clean and dry. We can change building codes to leap into a new and caring future. It doesn't have to be a negative. We can think it through. Someplace is better than no place.

Renew Deal

(81,873 posts)
25. Is this some call back to the real old days
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:19 PM
Feb 2020

Where the sheriff, apothecary, and real estate broker were the same person?

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
26. you just have to read the words...
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 08:03 PM
Feb 2020

all of the words, as they appear on the page. I do not understand what the intent is here. Just something to criticize?

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