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Link to tweet
This is literally every argument that conservatives have against socialism in one sentence.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)brush
(53,871 posts)SDANation
(419 posts)Can you prescribe me some Xanax and a 4 bedroom 3 1/2 bath? It would really help my anxiety...
Initech
(100,104 posts)PufPuf23
(8,839 posts)Newsom has gone way up in my regards.
The main problem I have with Newsom is his choice of former wife.
VarryOn
(2,343 posts)delisen
(6,044 posts)Caliman73
(11,744 posts)Housing security is a MAJOR contributor to health or illness. I understand what he is trying to say, but he said it in a very clumsy way that can be attacked.
Also, That isn't socialist! It is so weird when people label everything socialist. A doctor prescribing housing is socialist? How?
I mean it is silly and simplistic, but socialist? Doctors prescribe a lot of things for their patients' well being. Durable medical equipment like beds, commodes, crutches, power chairs, HOUSING MODIFICATION, etc... Newsom is saying in a very ineffective way, that housing is a key to good health.
Socialism is when workers own the means of production and can mean that the government distributes goods in the Commons. I know that Trump supporters are dumb and will likely scream socialism, but let's not join them or help them.
Initech
(100,104 posts)So I am just trying to figure out their language.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)Skittles
(153,193 posts)who does he expect to fill these prescriptions?
Initech
(100,104 posts)And that's not going to end well for anyone.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)that an unstable living environment is bad for your health
but this kind of stuff is just gold for repukes
Ms. Toad
(34,092 posts)I have the option of paying out of pocket for it - or not having it filled. Writing a prescription just means it is medically appropriate. It doesn't mean that someone else will pay for it.
Brother Buzz
(36,466 posts)Doctors would be able to write prescriptions for housing.
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hunter
(38,328 posts)That doesn't mean we should let them die on the streets.
We have to be realistic about that.
hlthe2b
(102,376 posts)Geebus. Calm down.
edhopper
(33,616 posts)they can't see the forest for the trees.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,364 posts)We need to start targeting social determinants of health. We need to start treating brain health like we do physical health.
Whats more fundamental to a persons well being than a roof over their head?
10 million Californians1 in 4suffer from some type of behavioral health condition.
Its not a narrow issue.
Its not a new issue.
Physical health and brain health are inextricably linked.
And our healthcare system has been designed to treat only one of those.
Lets be clear: Massive failures in our mental health system and disinvestment in our social safety netexacerbated by widening income inequality and our housing shortage has led us to where we are today: too many Californians left to live on our streets.
So, it's about homelessness. When you put up a strawman against this like "yeah I'll take a Tesla Model S and an apartment next to Angels Stadium, thanks!", you really do make yourself look very anti-Democratic. Congratulations. You echo the ghost of Ronald Reagan talking about "young bucks" buying T-bone steaks on welfare.
TexasBlueDog
(43 posts)Take all that free property the state got when the military bases were shut down and allow housing to be built. LOL, go into LA or SF or just about anywhere in CA and try to get low income housing permitted. Homeless problem? Allow housing to be built.
hunter
(38,328 posts)Insecure housing causes and aggravates severe health problems that end up costing taxpayers more in the long run than simple, safe, secure housing would.
Additionally, some level of supervision for the addicted and the mentally ill would also save money.
Right now we live in the worst of all possible worlds. People are often kept off the streets by putting them in jails and prisons which are very expensive ($80,000 a year in California) or they show up in the emergency room with $100,000 problems that could have been easily prevented with a few inexpensive meds and very mild supervision.
EndlessWire
(6,569 posts)If you ever had to put a stage 4 cancer victim out into the rain because he had managed to save up a lousy $50 against hunger, you'd understand. It's like when we strip people of everything because they have to be destitute before we'll feel sorry enough to help them.
I'm not a socialist, and I don't mind other people having lots of money. But, we need to figure out some system where people can be treated with dignity.
And, the other thing I always think about is, why can't we have building standards that accommodate emergency housing? I've seen some that look like dog igloos, only much bigger. There are all kinds of innovative and intriguing designs that would keep people clean and dry. We can change building codes to leap into a new and caring future. It doesn't have to be a negative. We can think it through. Someplace is better than no place.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,438 posts)Renew Deal
(81,873 posts)Where the sheriff, apothecary, and real estate broker were the same person?
stillcool
(32,626 posts)all of the words, as they appear on the page. I do not understand what the intent is here. Just something to criticize?