Assange was offered pardon to say Russia was not involved in 2016 leak of DNC documents

[fleur-de-lisa]

James Doleman @jamesdoleman

Breaking, at pre-trial hearing for Julian Assange a court has heard that he will be calling a witness who will allege he was offered a pardon by the US government, if he would say Russia was not involved in the leak of DNC documents during the 2006 election.

10:18 AM - Feb 19, 2020

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[hlthe2b]

1. But of course he was. The Trump corruption keeps coming

[RVN VET71]

40. Look for Barr to stifle any investigation into this in

3 . . .2 . . .1 seconds.

Barr is Caesar's protector in all things, and our bleeding republic is at the same stage of decay as was Rome after the son of a bitch crossed the Rubicon.

[dchill]

80. Investigation of GOP is simply not allowed.

[alittlelark]

2. WOW WoW Wow !!!!

[TheBlackAdder]

58. More like. . .

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[deminks]

3. kicking and bookmarking

[liberalla]

4. Well, well, well... lookie there...

now that's interesting.

[Autumn]

5. Who would believe a rapist?

[pnwmom]

11. The question is who the witness is. n/t

[Autumn]

28. A rapist who should be in prison for being a spy and leaking military secrets? That's who the

witness is.

https://whistleblower.org/press/press-release-government-accountability-project-statement-on-the-department-of-justices-expanded-espionage-act-charges-against-julian-assange/?gclid=CjwKCAiA1rPyBRAREiwA1UIy8Aplo-kbQoubhEvK1tbP4HjyJHNxB_fdlT50OcYlGsbxF-zCpdzMPBoCtq8QAvD_BwE

[liberalla]

41. So the person who, representing the US govt, went to Assange and offered him the deal

is also a rapist and a spy? How do we know that? Isn't that what we need to find out?

[Autumn]

44. We do need to find out. But credibility is an issue.

[eilen]

60. Well, we all know who went and visited Assange. nt

[pnwmom]

65. We don't know who could have reached out to Assange's attorney,

who some reports are saying is the witness, not Assange.

[pnwmom]

64. The report is that his ATTORNEY is the witness. How do you know the offer

wasn't made to his attorney?

[Autumn]

67. What I read was that Rohrabacher went to see Assange, it seems clear to me that he talked with him.

a statement from another Assange lawyer, Jennifer Robinson, that shows “Mr. Rohrabacher going to see Mr. Assange and saying, on instructions from the president, he was offering a pardon or some other way out, if Mr. Assange … said Russia had nothing to do with the DNC leaks.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

I'm no lawyer but I would think that the lawyers saying he did that would be hearsay and it would have to be confirmed by Assange.

[pnwmom]

69. If an Assange lawyer was PRESENT and attests to this conversation,

it would mean more than anything Assange or Rohrabacher might stay.

It's not hearsay if a lawyer testifies as a witness.

[jberryhill]

76. " It's not hearsay if a lawyer testifies as a witness."

Lol

[pnwmom]

79. If a Trump person made an offer to Assange through a lawyer, are you saying

that would be hearsay?

[jberryhill]

84. Depends on what you mean by "that"

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Are you trying to prove that Trump extended an offer, by using the testimony of someone who was told this by someone who is not Trump?

At the end of the day, this appears to relate to Rohrabacher proposing such an idea, which he (Rohrabacher) then pitched to the White House.

Hearsay is when someone provides testimony (or other evidence) about an out of court statement, and the testimony is offered as proof of whatever it is being asserted in that out of court statement.

Let's give the people names, just to be clear. Bob is Assange's lawyer, and Jim is the "Trump person" in your formulation.

You want to have Bob testify about something Jim said to Bob, in order to prove something that Trump said to Jim? That's called "double hearsay".

[maxsolomon]

31. If a rapist says it's a sunny day, and you can observe that it is, do you believe them?

Because a witness' character is assailable doesn't automatically mean they're lying.

[Autumn]

34. .

[hlthe2b]

43. And here we have one (accused) rapist testifying against ANOTHER... who to believe?

who to believe?

President Trump made 16,241 false or misleading claims in his first three years
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/01/20/president-trump-made-16241-false-or-misleading-claims-his-first-three-years/


I don't know for sure, but I'd guess Assange has some catching up to do to surpass Trump in the lacking veracity category.

[live love laugh]

53. 💯

[Whiskeytide]

45. Scum associates with scum. It you're ...

... going to call out and prosecute scum, some of your cooperating witness are probably going to be scum. The Тяцмр cabal is not committing crimes along side Mother Teresa.

[frazzled]

6. Shouldn't it be 2016 (not 2006)? /nt

[liberalla]

8. yes, noticed that also

[calimary]

46. Must be 2016. 2006 was a midterm not a presidential cycle.

[Zoonart]

7. Yet another quid-pro-quo.

[fleur-de-lisa]

9. Former US Republican congressman Dana Rohrabacher was the Assange bag man:

Sonia Gallego @SoniaGallegoAJE

More #trump pardon news... former US Republican congressman, Dana Rohrabacher allegedly told Julian Assange during meeting at Ecuadorian embassy that Pres Trump would offer a pardon to Assange if he denied Russia had anything to do with DNC hacking

10:22 AM - Feb 19, 2020

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[dalton99a]

13. +1

[RKP5637]

20. +1, n/t

[eilen]

61. 2016 --He had visitors from Russian nationals as well

as RT journalists and... Michael Moore. I think Rohrbacher (sp?) visited him a year later.

[link:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/18/rt-journalists-visited-julian-assange-ecuador-embassy-london|

[malaise]

10. It is time to impeach this MoFo again

This is corruption on steroids

[RKP5637]

25. At least once more ... and many more too! Can't believe the

Senate sits on their asses as the US is destroyed by this creepy MoFo. Republicans have truly shown this time around what they are made of ... and it stinks!!!

[Baitball Blogger]

12. Jesus. All we need to know is who made the promise?

[Mike 03]

16. You said it!

Who did it come from and who, if anyone, served as the conduit.

Guesses: Trump's personal attorneys? Sekulow? Dowd? Cobb?

Or someone shadier: Jerome Corsi, Stone, etc...

[fleur-de-lisa]

17. See post #9

[Mike 03]

19. Oh whoa...

He's been implicated in other scandals so far. This is a biggie!

[Baitball Blogger]

55. Holy Moley!

[MontanaMama]

48. Can we placed bets on who made the promise?

I’m hoping it was Jr.

ETA...I’m reading it was Rohrbacher. Damn.

[RKP5637]

14. 2016? not 2006? - Yep, hard not to believe. Run just like a criminal organization! n/t

[Mike 03]

15. Let's hope this gets the attention it deserves

[Leghorn21]

18. Day-am

(slowly draws breath) day-am

who among us was expecting a tasty morsel like this today

NOT ME


day-am

[SunSeeker]

21. Holy shit!

[Blue_Tires]

22. As always, Greenwald and Snowden were unavailable for comment...

Been a pretty good month for me, watching both Greenwald and Assange get exposed for utter frauds...

[spanone]

23. Quid Pro Quo

[MyNameGoesHere]

24. Who is James Doleman

And why is it saying 2006? I have searched the internet and haven't seen anything. One would think this would be huge headlines.

[fleur-de-lisa]

27. 2006 was a typo.

His bio says he is a court and tech reporter.

[cstanleytech]

26. If true then someone needs to arrested for offering that deal.

[dalton99a]

29. Kick

[More_Cowbell]

30. Assange said more than once that it was Seth Rich who hacked the DNC

So this story is baffling to me.

Here's a Rolling Stone story about Assange's comments on Seth Rich: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/will-julian-assange-and-wikileaks-finally-tell-the-truth-about-seth-rich-918946/

(eta I don't mean to say that this story isn't true or worth posting, just that I don't understand Assange's claim.

[Whiskeytide]

47. He's trying to get his ass out of a sling now. I'm guessing ...

... part of his strategy is to claim that the espionage charges against him are bogus, and His “proof” is that the US was willing to pardon him on such a pretext. Basically, he’s fighting extradition to the US. Making the US look bad and corrupt probably helps him to some degree.

[Nitram]

57. I agree. A self-serving allegation by Assange needs to be taken with a very large grain of salt.

Could be true. Could be entirely false. We know Assange is capable of lying in his own interest. We know the Tump administration is capable of such an act.

[malaise]

32. Posting this here as well -Kevin the tool named Dana Rohrabacher and Don the Con

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html

“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016, exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia.

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthy’s assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy.


Before the conversation, McCarthy and Ryan had emerged from separate talks at the Capitol with Ukrainian Prime Minister Vladi­mir Groysman, who had described a Kremlin tactic of financing populist politicians to undercut Eastern European democratic institutions.

News had just broken the day before in The Washington Post that Russian government hackers had penetrated the computer network of the Democratic National Committee, prompting McCarthy to shift the conversation from Russian meddling in Europe to events closer to home.

Some of the lawmakers laughed at McCarthy’s comment. Then McCarthy quickly added: “Swear to God.”

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Bam Bam what a bam bam!

[Kid Berwyn]

74. What a bam bam!

[malaise]

75. Here's Sister Nancy

I use this one for the Speaker

[fleur-de-lisa]

33. Other court reporters confirming:

Ben Lewis ✔ @benlewismedia

Julian Assange court appearance today- His lawyer mentioned a statement, that alleges former US Congressman Dana Rohrabacher visited Assange, saying he was there on behalf of the President, offering a pardon if JA would say Russia had nothing to do with DNC leaks. @SBSNews

10:49 AM - Feb 19, 2020

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[TryLogic]

35. Assuming it came from the top, William Barr is crooked as hell.

Not that we did not already know that.

[C_U_L8R]

36. The coverup just keeps on going.

Trump should be in jail. It's beyond ridiculous.

[scarletwoman]

37. When was this pre-trial hearing held? Assange is still in prison in the UK,

with his extradition hearing scheduled for February 24.

see: https://www.newsweek.com/wikileaks-julian-assange-latest-extradition-case-doj-belmarsh-prison-1483814

[fleur-de-lisa]

39. see this DU post:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142435219

[malaise]

72. Have you seen this?

https://www.rohrabacher.com/news

[UpInArms]

38. I hope there is tape

...

eom

[pandr32]

42. If this is true we would know Russia hacked and not some 400 lb guy

It is likely Russia that was behind all the hacking. They stole the election for their asset.

[blugbox]

49. If it really is Dana Rohrabacher...

That would be the same slimeball that Putin was paying, according to McCarthy.

But of course that stays in the family.

[Under The Radar]

50. And a trip to Epstein island if he squeals

[Grokenstein]

51. Look who supports Assange.

White-supremo nutter, look-I-has-a-gun stalker and renowned floor-shitter "Chuck" Johnson.

Link to tweet

(No worries, everybody--he's just playing "the circle game." /sarcasm)

[dewsgirl]

52. Shocked😳...no, of course not. But I am very happy this is

out in the open.

[StevieM]

54. There was a time when this would have been a major scandal and grounds for impeachment.

It would have dominated the news for weeks upon being revealed.

Now, in the era we live in, it is just another Wednesday.

[Nitram]

56. I'd suggest that such an allegation by Assange would have to be handled carefully.

We all know the Trump administration is entirely capable of such a crime. Unfortunately, we also know the Assange is intelligent enough to make up an allegation that sounds entirely plausible and would weaken the government's see against him.

[Botany]

59. And Trump sure can't have Roger Stone in jail because he was in the middle of this mess too.

n/t

[Pepsidog]

62. Now that i believe.

[JDC]

63. Jesus Christ. We are indeed a Banana Republic

[moondust]

66. Weird.

For some reason Dumpo and the gang are really trying hard to get the election hacking focus off Russia. Does he really think having Assange say that will make it all go away? Or is he just trying to divert attention elsewhere so no one will be keeping an eye on his beloved Russian hackers this election year?

I'll go with both--or whatever he can get out of it.

[Under The Radar]

68. Why didn't Mueller get this?

Or was this redacted in the report?

[Mike Niendorff]

70. K&R.

#MafiaState


MDN

[Brother Mythos]

71. Now isn't this an interesting development?!

[Wednesdays]

73. This will all be forgotten by the end of February.

[doc03]

77. I hate to be a downer here but, so what? It doesn't matter. I have been hearing

one bombshell news break after another hundreds of times in four years.

[The Wizard]

78. It's ok

Bribery is no longer an impeachable offense.

[dchill]

81. That seems illegal.

[triron]

82. OK so what?

[dchill]

83. I was attempting irony.