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11th Circuit upholds broad interpretation of Florida re-enfranchisement law (Original Post) Gothmog Feb 2020 OP
This is awesome JustAnotherGen Feb 2020 #1
Some welcomed good news... joost5 Feb 2020 #11
Now it's off to SCROTUS and Justice BeerBong. lagomorph777 Feb 2020 #13
Hey Ilike that, lagomorph777! Justice BeerBong! calimary Feb 2020 #17
I don't know if you heard, but . . . HuskyOffset Feb 2020 #18
That's how I do my Kavanaugh impression. calimary Feb 2020 #20
I am sure he will try to come up with something that will only let the "right" people vote. cstanleytech Feb 2020 #14
Hopefully, when the ex felons that got the vote actually vote, they will Blue_true Feb 2020 #24
This ruling just came down Gothmog Feb 2020 #2
About time the will of voters prevailed. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #4
This is huge RAB910 Feb 2020 #3
The reason why republicans panicked? Blue_true Feb 2020 #25
From Marc Elias Gothmog Feb 2020 #5
Please understand ScratchCat Feb 2020 #6
in line with that onethatcares Feb 2020 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Gothmog Feb 2020 #8
There are plans to expand ruling Gothmog Feb 2020 #9
The outcome affects a lot more people than that. Blue_true Feb 2020 #26
They will still do everything they can to stop people from voting edhopper Feb 2020 #10
Agree mountain grammy Feb 2020 #12
Good. Poll taxes of any kind are wrong. Just plain wrong. NT SWBTATTReg Feb 2020 #15
And the FL deadline to register to vote in the primary was yesterday. CaptainTruth Feb 2020 #16
Hope they don't appeal to SCOTUS, which would side with fines and penalties being prohibitive. lark Feb 2020 #19
From Professor Hasen's election law blog Gothmog Feb 2020 #21
ONE day too late to let them register to vote in the primaries csziggy Feb 2020 #22
Analysis: How a court battle on felon voting rights in Florida could impact 2020 Gothmog Feb 2020 #23
Outstanding JFlash Feb 2020 #27

joost5

(421 posts)
11. Some welcomed good news...
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:41 PM
Feb 2020

Cynical side of me agrees with you that DeSantis and other anti-democratic GOPs will try something else.

calimary

(81,500 posts)
17. Hey Ilike that, lagomorph777! Justice BeerBong!
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 01:45 PM
Feb 2020

Does he have a few before putting on his robes in the morning?

calimary

(81,500 posts)
20. That's how I do my Kavanaugh impression.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 02:38 PM
Feb 2020

“Ah like BEER!”

Usually done with body language suggesting an ape.


What a fucking GOON.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
24. Hopefully, when the ex felons that got the vote actually vote, they will
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 08:48 PM
Feb 2020

punish the people that worked to make them invisible.

RAB910

(3,511 posts)
3. This is huge
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 11:34 AM
Feb 2020

Florida has been a purple state. Allowing more citizens to vote will turn this state reliably blue

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
25. The reason why republicans panicked?
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 08:53 PM
Feb 2020

The ex felons that are qualified to vote are by good amount, Black.

In Florida, being caught with a joint is a felony. But, it is doubtful that was exercised against White kids that got caught.

onethatcares

(16,185 posts)
7. in line with that
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:09 PM
Feb 2020

an avalanche starts with a few ice crystals.

When I voted on this amendment it was cut and dried to me, the republican legislature always throws lumps in what the people want.

Response to ScratchCat (Reply #6)

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
26. The outcome affects a lot more people than that.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 08:56 PM
Feb 2020

No one that is eligible should have to pay, even if they are right. Republicans in Florida were trying to institute a poll tax that selectively excluded certain people.

edhopper

(33,616 posts)
10. They will still do everything they can to stop people from voting
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:38 PM
Feb 2020

they steal one election to steal other elections.

CaptainTruth

(6,602 posts)
16. And the FL deadline to register to vote in the primary was yesterday.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 01:24 PM
Feb 2020

Deadline to vote in the GE is Oct 5.

lark

(23,156 posts)
19. Hope they don't appeal to SCOTUS, which would side with fines and penalties being prohibitive.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 02:09 PM
Feb 2020

Bet on it.

Gothmog

(145,567 posts)
21. From Professor Hasen's election law blog
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 05:25 PM
Feb 2020

This blog has a link to the opinion that I will try to read later https://electionlawblog.org/?p=109623

You can find the 78-page opinion at this link. It begins:
On November 6, 2018, Florida voters approved Amendment 4, a state constitutional amendment that automatically restored voting rights to ex-felon who had completed all of the terms of their sentences.
Contemporary media reports suggested that as many as 1.4 million felons could be eligible for reenfranchisement under the law. Accounts differed as to whether this figure made Amendment 4 the single largest act of enfranchisement since the Nineteenth Amendment in 1920, the Voting Rights Act in 1965, or the Twenty-Sixth Amendment in 1971. By any measure, Amendment 4’s enfranchisement was historic.
Amendment 4 provided that a felon’s “voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence including parole or probation.” Following its passage, the Florida legislature passed Senate Bill 7066, which implemented the Amendment and interpreted its language to require payment of all fines, fees and restitution imposed as part of the sentence (collectively, “legal financial obligations” or “LFOs”). The Florida Supreme Court later agreed with the legislature’s interpretation of the Amendment—during the pendency of this appeal, it held that the plain text of Amendment 4 requires payment of all LFOs as a precondition of re-enfranchisement.
Following the passage of SB 7066, the seventeen plaintiffs in this case brought suit, challenging the constitutionality of the LFO requirement. Each plaintiff is a felon who has alleged that he or she would be eligible for reenfranchisement under Amendment 4 but for non-payment of outstanding LFOs. Each plaintiff has also alleged that he or she is indigent and, therefore, genuinely unable to pay those obligations.

The cases were consolidated in the United States District Court for the
Northern District of Florida, which then issued a preliminary injunction requiring the State to allow the named plaintiffs to register and vote if they are able to show that they are genuinely unable to pay their LFOs and would otherwise be eligible to vote under Amendment 4. From this order the State timely appealed to this Court.

Because the LFO requirement punishes those who cannot pay more harshly than those who can—and does so by continuing to deny them access to the ballot box—Supreme Court precedent leads us to apply heightened scrutiny in asking whether the requirement violates the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment as applied to these plaintiffs. When measured against this standard, we hold that it does and affirm the preliminary injunction entered by the district court.

Here is a link to the actual opinion https://campaignlegal.org/sites/default/files/2020-02/Document.pdf

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
22. ONE day too late to let them register to vote in the primaries
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 05:31 PM
Feb 2020
Deadline to Register (Book Closing)

Eligible individuals can register to vote at any time. The deadline to register in order to participate in an upcoming election is 29 days before the election. The registration deadlines for 2020 are:

Presidential Preference Primary Election: February 18*
Primary Election: July 20
General Election: October 5

*Due to federal holiday, the deadline moved from Monday, February 17 to Tuesday, February 18.
https://dos.myflorida.com/elections/for-voters/election-dates/


I hope the judge does let the GOP disenfranchise these voters for the rest of this cycle.
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