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applegrove

(118,814 posts)
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 04:20 PM Feb 2020

Trump Just Lost A Big Case On Taking Away Medicaid Coverage

BY JASON EASLEY at PoliticusUSA

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/02/14/trump-loses-medicaid-case.html

"SNIP.....

One of the most conservative judges in the country ruled against a Trump administration effort to allow the states to throw millions off Medicaid.

Vox reported:

One of the most conservative judges in the country just handed down an opinion saying that the Trump administration acted illegally when it permitted the state of Arkansas to strip health coverage from thousands of Medicaid beneficiaries.

Judge David Sentelle’s opinion in Gresham v. Azar, on behalf of himself and two of his colleagues on the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, is significant in its own right. But it is also significant because it suggests that the Trump administration will have a tough time defending its conduct if this case is heard by the Supreme Court.

The heart of the ruling is that Trump can’t toss out the objectives of Congress and replace them with his own. In other words, Congress makes the laws and Trump implements them. The President does not have the power to changes the legislative objectives that are passed by Congress.

Eighteen thousand people would have lost their Medicaid coverage in Arkansas, and without this ruling other larger red states would have followed Arkansas. The result would have been millions of Americans without health insurance coverage.

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Trump Just Lost A Big Case On Taking Away Medicaid Coverage (Original Post) applegrove Feb 2020 OP
Thanks for some rare good news. (nt) Elwood P Dowd Feb 2020 #1
Republicans will continue the assault, so Democrats must continue to protect. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #2
In the Repugs' view, being poor is the ultimate crime. nt LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2020 #13
I hope those in AR sue the state for acting so prematurely, prior to rump's edict being ruled ... SWBTATTReg Feb 2020 #3
It won't stop the states from murdering 1000's by taking Medicaid away, they will still do it yaesu Feb 2020 #4
Those other red states are still going through with their fascist plans. nt yaesu Feb 2020 #5
How is he going to adjust his budget proposal given this ruling? nt in2herbs Feb 2020 #6
Uh oh, a certain Mango Menace is going to have a SAD. NoMoreRepugs Feb 2020 #7
I'm starting to feel how the Jews felt in Germany in the 30's under the other HItler . geretogo Feb 2020 #8
Military funds stolen to build the Wall bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #9
Didn't the courts also strike down that blatant attempt at overreach? hangaleft Feb 2020 #14
THIS! malaise Feb 2020 #10
And it's the Judiciary which has the power to stop such blatant attempts to overstep his authority hangaleft Feb 2020 #15
I can't wait until all those unqualified hacks posing as judges are malaise Feb 2020 #16
Of Course Trump Will Carry Arkansas DanieRains Feb 2020 #11
So much winning has tRUMP's head spinning and he's gonna rue the day that he opened his abqtommy Feb 2020 #12
SSI,SSDI medicaid,Medicate,food stamps I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2020 #17

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,447 posts)
2. Republicans will continue the assault, so Democrats must continue to protect.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 04:25 PM
Feb 2020

They will not give up in their assaults on citizens.

SWBTATTReg

(22,171 posts)
3. I hope those in AR sue the state for acting so prematurely, prior to rump's edict being ruled ...
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 04:49 PM
Feb 2020

on by the courts. The state deserves to lose big time, in cutting off its' own residents off of healthcare.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
4. It won't stop the states from murdering 1000's by taking Medicaid away, they will still do it
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 05:04 PM
Feb 2020

while it makes its way to tRump's supreme ass kissing court.

 

hangaleft

(649 posts)
14. Didn't the courts also strike down that blatant attempt at overreach?
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 07:50 PM
Feb 2020

Obviously, the number one method of putting a halt to our march toward a totalitarian fascist state is the election in November. In the meantime, it’s the judiciary which has been our last bulwark of protection.

This is particularly interesting to me, as it confirms a lesson we learned early in law school. On the first day of Con Law, our professor asked the class who we felt the most powerful person in the country was. Long before the end of the semester the answer (which no one had proffered in response to the Day 1 question) was abundantly clear — a Supreme Court Justice. Congress can enact all the laws it wants and the President can take all the actions he or she wants, but whether those laws and actions stand or are struck down is ultimately determined by the Judiciary Branch of our government.

malaise

(269,187 posts)
10. THIS!
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 05:41 PM
Feb 2020

The President does not have the power to changes the legislative objectives that are passed by Congress.

 

hangaleft

(649 posts)
15. And it's the Judiciary which has the power to stop such blatant attempts to overstep his authority
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 08:03 PM
Feb 2020

The cherry on top is that it was a staunchly conservative judge who wrote this opinion. As we’ve seen to date and, I believe, will for the most part continue to see, is that the Judiciary is an independent Branch of government which won’t kowtow to the Executive (or Legislative) Branch. The system of checks and balances still lives to a degree, although its continued survival is tenuous.

malaise

(269,187 posts)
16. I can't wait until all those unqualified hacks posing as judges are
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 08:05 PM
Feb 2020

exposed and removed. I'm betting there are many scandals that will help bring them down

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
12. So much winning has tRUMP's head spinning and he's gonna rue the day that he opened his
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:31 PM
Feb 2020

mouth to the folks north and south who don't do at all what he say.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
17. SSI,SSDI medicaid,Medicate,food stamps
Sat Feb 15, 2020, 12:32 PM
Feb 2020

Are the backbone of the economy.
Why? Because most of what people get from these programs goes right back into the economy.

Because of checks being so minimal, being this poor makes sure every dollar gets budgeted and spent. By time the month is over, I'm broke.

Living on SSI is not easy. Medicare helps me alot,and I am grateful for these programs. I'd probably be dead without them.

Good on the judge who shot trump down

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