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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWill there come a tipping point when enough people have been fired, lied about, insulted
and laws been broken that even cowards (like the GOP senators) feel enough safety in numbers to publicly turn against Trump? Will it happen in time?
An 'Achilles Heel' for Trump is his belief he can get away with his crap indefinitely. That has been his experience in life when only small numbers of people were affected by him. Now things are very different. He's literally affecting everyone on the planet.
texasfiddler
(1,990 posts)Phoenix61
(17,013 posts)show the Dem candidate will be the winner with a wide margin. At that point theres no reason for them to suck up to Twitler and every reason to try and play nice just before the Dems take over.
maxsolomon
(33,370 posts)So, no. This is the way America works now.
We're not special; we're subject to creeping Authoritarianism like every other nation.
Jade Fox
(10,030 posts)It is literally the whole world being affected by Trump.
Despite what the MAGA hats imagine the USA cannot function in a vacuum, or bully the whole planet. We no longer live in that kind of world. Climate change alone will unite us whether we want it to or not.
maxsolomon
(33,370 posts)I no longer believe that ACC will reach a crisis point that makes the US government act selflessly in concert with other nations; Trump has made me a cynic.
As long as Republicans and their noise machines exist, the water will get hotter and hotter but the frog won't jump out.
Denial propaganda has poisoned the brains of multiple generations that must die off first, Boomers being the primary problem, and I'm a late Boomer.
patricia92243
(12,598 posts)not cover it.
Jade Fox
(10,030 posts)They're in the grip of a cult.
But there are many conservatives and a fair number of Republicans who know that a monster has been impowered, and that the USA has entered dangerous grounds. Their articles and statements have been posted on this website. Those are the courageous ones we have already heard from. There are bound to be more out there, less courageous, waiting for the safety of numbers to step up whether they are aware of it or not.
Hell, even at Fox a few have spoken out.
uponit7771
(90,353 posts)Stuart G
(38,439 posts)now stand up to Trump. They are much too late.
Jade Fox
(10,030 posts)And Trump believes he can continue that indefiniely.
If Trump had been smart and cleaned up his act for awhile after the Senate aquittal, he would be much more dangerous. But he did just what we all predicted and pulled out all the stops in his outrageous, vengeful, illegal behavior.
Now people like Susan Collins are seeing the reality of what they have done, and I think the light must be going on for others as well.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)There can be no other explanation. What she says is a lie to cover up her actions.
Brother Buzz
(36,456 posts)First he came for @comey, and I said nothing because I was mad at @comeybecause of the Clinton email investigation and I blamed him for Trumps election.
Then he came for Andy McCabe and I said nothing because there was this inspector general report that said McCabe lacked candor.
Then he came for Jim Baker and I said nothing because I had never heard of Jim Baker and the FBI director is entitled to his own leadership team anyway.
Then he came for @NatSecLisa and @petestrzok and I said nothing because they sent text messages and the president and Fox News kept reminding me that they had an affair.
Then he came for Bruce Ohr and I said nothing because that one was so deep in the weeds that it made my head hurt and maybe Bruce Ohr shouldnt have been doing what he was doing anyway.
Then he came for Jeff Sessions and I said nothing because, s***, he was Jeff F***ing Sessions and it actually took Donald Trump to discover the one or two honorable bones in his body.
Then he came for Sir @KimDarroch, and I said nothing because hes a British government official and I have no dog in a fight over how the UK staffs its embassies.
Then he came for Masha Yovanovich and I said nothing because ambassadors serve at the pleasure of the president and he can remove ambassadors for any reason or no reason at all.
And then he came for Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman and his brother, Evgeny Vindman, and I said nothingbecause I was used to it.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)No. We've seen the extent of their resistance. What is happening is what they want. No matter what they might say differently.
skip fox
(19,359 posts)I see no signs of Republicans in the Congress or Senate, and increasingly few at the DOJ, growing a conscience. Actually we see the opposite tread of former Never-Trumpers and others ignoring their consciences more and more every month.
That is, I don't think the Republicans will stop him. It's up to us Democrats along with indigent independents to stare this sh*t in the eye."
The question is: Will we be able to do so when the time comes (and the Republicans are even more entrenched in their opposition to truth and decency.)