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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWatching AOC right now. Is she a contender for 2024?
Yes, hate me for bringing this up when we aren't even done with 2020. LOL
But seriously, is she looking like a future POTUS?
rzemanfl
(29,568 posts)Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)But she would be a fantastic candidate to clean up if we have another 4 years of Trump.
Celerity
(43,498 posts)kcr
(15,320 posts)I predict she'll run anyway.
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)...100% of the Repubs!
SlogginThroughIt
(1,977 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)But she will be 35 years old by less than a month in November 2024.
So, I hope so. I want conservative minds to explode.
lapfog_1
(29,223 posts)plus... she is only 30 years old, you have to be 36 to be President.
She will be lucky to survive the next primary contest.
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Alex4Martinez
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(8,155 posts)rzemanfl
(29,568 posts)SharonClark
(10,014 posts)You may not like her political positions but she is definiely not an airhead.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Quixote1818
(28,968 posts)People love her. I think she has a great shot.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)Otherwise she would be challenging a Dem in the Whitehouse in 2024 which would be rather dumb.
But in 2028 and beyond I fully expect to see her run.
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(8,155 posts)Otherwise, she's be great for 2028.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)It's just conversations.
I agree. I expect to see her on Dem debates stages on 2028,2032 or 2036. (depending on how elections and reelections fallout)
wisteria
(19,581 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)Amishman
(5,559 posts)Perhaps once the boomers are gone and the country as a whole has gone further left.
tritsofme
(17,399 posts)She could be bumped out and forced into a primary with another Democratic congressman.
That may not matter due to persistent rumors she may be interested in primarying Chuck Schumer in 2022.
TroubleMan
(4,859 posts)I'm pretty sure that we'll win this year, so our incumbent will running for reelection in 2024. Later would be great, though. She's everything I would want in a President.
Zolorp
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(8,155 posts)Zolorp
(1,115 posts)I'm donating to her primary opponent.
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(8,155 posts)Zolorp
(1,115 posts)I'm glad she has a primary opponent and he stands a damned good chance of taking her seat. HE is speaking to constituents while she is running around the country. Her hubris may do her in politically.
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(8,155 posts)Zolorp
(1,115 posts)Thank you for wishing me good kuck, hopefully sense will prevail.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)Western Europeans must laugh their asses off at our expense everyday.
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)John Fante
(3,479 posts)We got weapons of death to build, and rich people to not tax! Murica!
Celerity
(43,498 posts)I should know, having been born in the US, growing up in London, living a few years back in the US, and now living in Sweden.
The people who want to run out AOC and most likely all left progressives from our Party if possible would, if they were somehow magically successful, end up destroying our Party, as if the left were completely or near completely frozen out, the Party would have to lurch to the right in order to make up for the left voters who would leave at that point, stop coting D, and quite possibly form a third party. That lurch to the centre right would only exacerbate the haemorrhaging from the left base. The Rethugs would sit back, laugh, and dominate electorally. Thus are the flaws of the American non-proportional representation FPTP single member district, majoritarian form of electoral system.
DFW
(54,436 posts)They always wonder that Americans think everything is free here (I live in the Düsseldorf area), but it's not, health care is not only not universal, it is first class and second class for those who do have it, and getting into a university at all is a dry, Darwinian process. My wife, a social worker here, used to "lend" her charges money so they could eat for the last few days of the month, when their money ran out.
We get by, of course--most countries do. But to call Germany some kind of utopian paradise, where everything is free, is inaccurate at best. This not the Valley of the Shmoon.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)Utopian paradise? That's a strawman argument. I suggested no such thing.
Is the QOL in Germany superior to the United States of Murica? Absolutely.
DFW
(54,436 posts)I live in Nordrhein-Westfalen. My wife is a German social worker. What part do you live in that you know so much more than we do? Talk about straw.
As for the universities, German students still have the Darwinian numerus clausus gauntlet to get through, and they still have plenty of expenses they have to pick up on their own:
"Der zweite große Posten neben den Studiengebühren sind die Lebenshaltungskosten. Zwar liegt Deutschland im Vergleich nicht deutlich höher als andere Länder aber man benötigt doch einiges an zusätzlichem Geld, als wenn man im Elternhaus wohnen bleibt und von dort aus zur Uni gehen kann."
Full link here:
https://www.studieren-in-deutschland.org/was-kostet-es-in-deutschland-zu-studieren/
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Zolorp
(1,115 posts)I was asked what my opinion was. I gave it.
A lot of performance, without enough substance. I think with time and experience, she could be a viable candidate for higher office. Right now, she doesn't instill a whole lot of confidence from my perspective. Governing well is hard work, more than having a clever media presence.
TexasTowelie
(112,417 posts)She may not even retain her congressional seat after redistricting since New York is projected to lose one seat.
brooklynite
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(8,155 posts)brooklynite
(94,727 posts)AOC has...13 months.
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(8,155 posts)I don't count any of that experience as being an "administrator" (including his years in the state legislature) but you do you.
padah513
(2,506 posts)Last time I checked she was in her first term but you can play Nostrodamus if you want. Like you say, you do you.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)legal field and had extensive experience as a community organizer. And he had something she doesn't. Gravitas and an understanding of not wasting your words.
still_one
(92,394 posts)RockRaven
(14,998 posts)I suspect most Dem primary voters -- encompassing the entirety of the country -- will consider her too young/too inexperienced to be POTUS.
I'm not saying it is correct or fair, that's just what I'm predicting to occur.
jr1118x
(97 posts)If she doesn't end up selling out and being corrupted by power and corporate donor money , which so far she has been amazing at fighting. I think she is the key to our future, she is one of the political bright spots that gives me hope.
Zeus69
(391 posts)John Fante
(3,479 posts)I could definitely see her winning the Democrats a third straight presidential election that year
Polybius
(15,476 posts)I like her but doubt she could win a national election. And one Party hasn't won three elections in a row since 1988. It's tough.
Horizens
(637 posts)and she'll never be president or a senator.
jr1118x
(97 posts)First as far as fundraising she has raised more than any other democrat Representative. A junior Rep upraising veterans like Pelosi and Schiff. She has used her influence in ways to shape conversations more than most other Reps, she has stood up for her beliefs and has moved the political conversation through social media. She has more influence than any junior Representative I can recall.
jcgoldie
(11,645 posts)Now we're using Trump cutdowns?
Horizens
(637 posts)She appeals to a very narrow though avid portion of the party. She's loud but has accomplished nothing in the house.
She'd lose a statewide race in NY and has even less appeal across the country.
unblock
(52,317 posts)most first term representatives do little more than learn the ropes, try to fit in and not rock the boat, and fund-raise like crazy to consolidate support and secure that key first re-election.
Horizens
(637 posts)AOC, nationally, has a net negative rating of 10 - the same as trump.
unblock
(52,317 posts)I'm not local so I don't know if she's doing that, but with her voice and national attention could be used to good effect, and I would think she is doing exactly that, completely apart from the national policies she's pushing.
dem4decades
(11,304 posts)unblock
(52,317 posts)she made quite a splash even before donnie started attacking her
and then, so what? if she's known as a thorn in his sides, that's a good thing, and a politically useful thing, too.
dem4decades
(11,304 posts)unblock
(52,317 posts)dem4decades
(11,304 posts)Just like the rest of us.
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unblock
(52,317 posts)to cater to the political leanings of Wisconsin
Gotcha.
Takket
(21,625 posts)is pretty unpopular with everyone else. she'd struggle to get 405 of the vote against a "decent" (not the quotation marks) rethug.
nini
(16,672 posts).. someone who spends more time bashing democrats than republicans.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)statement isn't remotely accurate - - she gives Republicans the business FAR more often. She's no Bernie Buster.
nini
(16,672 posts)she spends TOO MUCH time trashing Democrats.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,437 posts)and not because I dislike her or anything but hopefully, that will be the re-election of 2020's Democratic Presidential winner. And yes, I do think she has a future.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)No. She's absolutely not a national contender in 2024.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,386 posts)She's smart. But to be a contender, she needs to show the ability to really lead and deal practically with hard issues. Right now, she's a bit of an ideologue with the confidence of youth. Let's see how she does in Congress.
doc03
(35,364 posts)ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)2024 is way too soon for her in my opinion.
Renew Deal
(81,871 posts)LiberalFighter
(51,084 posts)Polybius
(15,476 posts)She turns 35 in October 2024. I don't want someone campaigning when they are under the legal age of 35. She'd have to campaign at 33.
She can wait, she can run all the way up to 2064. She'll only be 75. Now I feel old.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,654 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,654 posts)2024 absolutely not.
PAMod
(906 posts)Meaning, take an executive job in government for management experience, or do something to gain experience in international affairs?
Or is being a grenade thrower in the House of Representatives sufficient to you?
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)Katie Porter. Stacey Abrams.
Are they suddenly too old?
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)MountCleaners
(1,148 posts)She's young, after a time, the country might catch up to her, but I'm not sure she will be mainstream enough in 2024.
brush
(53,847 posts)In It to Win It
(8,283 posts)H2O Man
(73,605 posts)AOC is 30. You have to be 35 to be president.