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When these Repug Senators believe that voting not to allow witnesses or evidence in the trial or voting to acquit - is the lesser of two evils - one has to really wonder what Trump is holding over their heads?
To sacrifice their integrity. To disregard an oath to God. To put Party ahead of Country. To risk their legacy for a criminal. To have to face their children or in the future their grandchildren and tell them they didn't have enough guts to stand up to this bully.
I just don't get it. I'm sorry - no job - not even being Senator in these United States is worth destroying one's integrity. So they lose their seat in the Senate - it's not like its the end of the world for them. Everyone of them is comfortable and certainly don't lack money. Everyone of them will get another job if they want it.
What is Trump holding over them? Did he threaten their lives? Does Trump really have deep, dark secrets on each and every one of these Senators that can ruin them? Are they in the loop and do they feel if they take Trump down - they'll go down with him?
What is it? I just don't get it - that all 53 of these Senators are criminals like Trump.
I respect what Romney did today - but he did the right thing. Did it really take guts to do what he did? He's rich. He doesn't need the job. He won't starve if they throw him out of the Party. It will probably - in a strange way - help his image. Maybe he still thinks he can run as his Party's nominee for president in the future.
But I keep wondering - what kind of hold does Trump have on these folks.
MerryBlooms
(11,770 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,209 posts).
It took a lot to get rid of him.
Sometime over the course of the night and the early morning of December 29-30, 1916, Grigory Efimovich Rasputin, a self-proclaimed holy man, is murdered by Russian nobles eager to end his influence over the royal family.
Rasputin, a Siberian-born muzhik, or peasant, who underwent a religious conversion as a teenager and proclaimed himself a healer with the ability to predict the future, won the favor of Czar Nicholas II and Czarina Alexandra through his ability to stop the bleeding of their hemophiliac son, Alexei, in 1908. From then on, though he was widely criticized for his lechery and drunkenness, Rasputin exerted a powerful influence on the ruling family of Russia, infuriating nobles, church orthodoxy, and peasants alike. He particularly influenced the czarina, and was rumored to be her lover. When Nicholas departed to lead Russian forces in World War I, Rasputin effectively ruled the country through Alexandra, contributing to the already-existing corruption and disorder of Romanov Russia.
Fearful of Rasputins growing power (among other things, it was believed by some that he was plotting to make a separate peace with the Germans), a group of nobles, led by Prince Felix Youssupov, the husband of the czars niece, and Grand Duke Dmitri Pavlovich, Nicholass first cousin, lured Rasputin to Youssupov Palace on the night of December 29, 1916.
First, Rasputins would-be killers gave the monk food and wine laced with cyanide. When he failed to react to the poison, they shot him at close range, leaving him for dead. A short time later, however, Rasputin revived and attempted to escape from the palace grounds, whereupon his assailants shot him again and beat him viciously. Finally, they bound Rasputin, still miraculously alive, and tossed him into a freezing river. His body was discovered several days later and the two main conspirators, Youssupov and Pavlovich were exiled.
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/rasputin-is-murdered
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MerryBlooms
(11,770 posts)Thanks for the blast from the past!
dchill
(38,505 posts)2naSalit
(86,647 posts)since those assholes went to moscow on Juky 4th.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)Some maybe, and the others are going along out of fear?
I don't like the GOP, and I think their policies tend to be cruel and damaging. However, before this I would never have thought that all but one of them would be so corrupt. I would have thought a few would be, if nothing else, defiant of authority-- where are all those supposed libertarians?
Of course, the supposed libertarian Rand Paul is a known Putin puppet.
Do none of them even have any pride?
dchill
(38,505 posts)dawg day
(7,947 posts)dchill
(38,505 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,350 posts)They believe by sticking together they will be favored pets in the inner circle of the rulers of the earth.
Cowards and traitors, every one.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,504 posts)COL Mustard
(5,906 posts)Or else he has them by the short & curlies.
bamagal62
(3,264 posts)Russian money.
Threats to family.
Just a guess.
napi21
(45,806 posts)Primaryed in the next election. They'll do anything to keep their own jobs,
They'll do whatever it takes to cling to power.
Brother Mythos
(1,442 posts)Because, keeping their jobs will make them even more wealthy.
catbyte
(34,403 posts)I have a sneaking suspicion that the DNC wasn't the only entity Putin's minions hacked back in 2016 and they're holding things over their heads. They are also terrified of this:
They're more worried about being primaried by the cult, of losing the power and prestige of being a member of Congress, that they'd have to find a real job that it overrode their Oath of Office and any desire to do their patriotic duty. It's pathetic, despicable, cowardly, and utterly un-American.
MustLoveBeagles
(11,612 posts)2naSalit
(86,647 posts)dalton99a
(81,516 posts)More likely, they're just fucking traitorous scum - just like him
Ace Rothstein
(3,163 posts)They'll get primaried by a Trump cultist and be easily dispatched.
tblue37
(65,407 posts)Skittles
(153,169 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... doubt when they don't deserve it.
They're some of the dumbest sell outs to Russia I've ever come across
bdamomma
(63,875 posts)and the Russian mafia and this $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Vivienne235729
(3,384 posts)2naSalit
(86,647 posts)dustyscamp
(2,224 posts)Cuthbert Allgood
(4,921 posts)2naSalit
(86,647 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)They've wanted it for decades; they're going to get it under Dirty Don.
LonePirate
(13,425 posts)For those not up for re-election, they face the threat of no future as a lobbyist or in corporate America or violent threats and/or outcast status if they are retiring from working life.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)I won't give them any excuse that implies they are beholden, fearful or being intimidated by anyone in anyway.
Why? I am sticking with a view that they are complicit in order to keep the GOP in power and preserve its fading relevance. When you know that your entire party is demographically, (and in other ways) becoming politically obsolete to the point that you don't even qualify as a worthy or fitting opponent to a qualified party, that spells panic and wresting power and subverting the government is a last ditch effort to remain.
I think this will be more evident as we move forward and, once Trump is out and gone, it is my sense of it that the GOP will start to deteriorate and fracture slowly. In a few decades it will either have failed completely and a new party will become ascendant or it will transform into something different after the flock of dinosaurs pass away. The GOP has been creating its demise for a long time and we just have to hope they won't succeed in assisting Trump in this slow-motion coup.