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riversedge

(70,362 posts)
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 05:18 PM Feb 2020

Why Are President Trump's Poll Numbers Going Up?

umm.. transient?? Feeling rather blue lately.




Why Are President Trump’s Poll Numbers Going Up?



https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/why-are-president-trumps-poll-numbers-going-up
By Josh Marshall
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February 4, 2020 11:55 a.m.


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538’s composite average has notched up a couple points over the second half of January and this morning Gallup released the highest approval rating of Trump’s presidency: 49%.

Why is this happening?

The most straightforward and daunting answer is that he is getting more popular.............

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This is daunting and sobering given the consequences of President Trump being re-elected.

But there is another plausible explanation. Pollsters call it differential response.
When one side gets enthused or energized their numbers go up but in an ephemeral fashion. The pumped-up side is a bit more eager to answer the phone or fill out the survey. The demoralized side is a bit less eager. This is a real and demonstrated phenomenon, not just a concept or speculation. It’s not necessarily an error per se in the polling. It’s picking up something real. It’s just ephemeral.

One example many of us likely remember came after the first general election debate in 2012. President Obama turned in a stiff and disconcertingly flat performance. The consensus was that Mitt Romney won the debate and for the first and last time in the cycle Romney briefly pushed into the lead.

There are good reasons to think that at least some of that is happening today — the President’s impending acquittal and Republican unity have been the driving news of the last two or three weeks.
Republicans are energized and enthused by the certainty of President Trump’s acquittal. Many Democrats are demoralized by seeing an overwhelming and exacting case made for the President’s guilt and seeing it simply not matter.

We’ll only know once impeachment is over and all of this has a chance to settle. I’m pretty confident that at least some of this is ephemeral differential response. But I am not confident that’s all of it. We just don’t know and won’t know for a while.

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Why Are President Trump's Poll Numbers Going Up? (Original Post) riversedge Feb 2020 OP
It's only February. Quemado Feb 2020 #1
Psyop underthematrix Feb 2020 #2
Impeachment. Why Pelosi took so long and found an ironclad crime to go after Trump. krissey Feb 2020 #3
His cultish base might rally for a little bit, but there's no proof yet that this is enduring. Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2020 #12
I do not think it is enduring at all. I think he will get a little bit more with SOU address. krissey Feb 2020 #13
Right Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2020 #15
Ya, lol. That. Even the drooling won't change the dialogue. krissey Feb 2020 #16
Clinton saw his popularity skyrocket after his impeachment. John Fante Feb 2020 #4
+1 crickets Feb 2020 #5
But we all knew he would. yes. we. did. riversedge Feb 2020 #6
Clinton's approval ratings went up Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2020 #14
Believe the hard number is 40% Wellstone ruled Feb 2020 #7
The timing is interesting Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2020 #8
Everybody knows that poll results are determined by the highest bidder at Polls R Us. abqtommy Feb 2020 #9
it's that bdamomma Feb 2020 #10
People drawn, even a little bit, to authoritarian leaders need them Hortensis Feb 2020 #11
Morning Consult was 40% octoberlib Feb 2020 #17

Quemado

(1,262 posts)
1. It's only February.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 05:25 PM
Feb 2020

The only poll I'm interested in is nine months away. A lot can happen in nine months.

 

krissey

(1,205 posts)
3. Impeachment. Why Pelosi took so long and found an ironclad crime to go after Trump.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 05:26 PM
Feb 2020

She new that it would give Trump what he needed to increase his numbers. While everyone was demanding impeachment from the get go, Pelosi knew better. Even with the kick ass job the Democratic house did, and regardless of the foolery of Trump, Pelosi knew it would increase Trump favorably.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,450 posts)
12. His cultish base might rally for a little bit, but there's no proof yet that this is enduring.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 06:59 PM
Feb 2020

Doing nothing would have been a mistake IMHO.

 

krissey

(1,205 posts)
13. I do not think it is enduring at all. I think he will get a little bit more with SOU address.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 07:01 PM
Feb 2020

But it is not solid. imo

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,450 posts)
15. Right
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 07:03 PM
Feb 2020

We'll have to suffer a few days of him "appearing Presidential" if he doesn't drool all over himself at SOTU, but, in the end, it will change nothing we already know about him and he will continue his destructive behavior.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
4. Clinton saw his popularity skyrocket after his impeachment.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 05:38 PM
Feb 2020

His approval ratings were well north of 60%..

In comparison, Gump's mini-bump (pushing him up to a still-mediocre 43%) is hardly worth crowing about.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,450 posts)
14. Clinton's approval ratings went up
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 07:01 PM
Feb 2020

because everybody could see that Republicans *were* really out to get him. Trump, by comparison, still pretty much just has his cult supporters and everybody else knows he's guilty as sin and getting off in the Senate simply because the Republicans are in the majority and have no desire to lose out on the benefits of keeping him in office.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. Believe the hard number is 40%
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 05:55 PM
Feb 2020

If you understand Gallup,they tend to sample more registered Rethugs than Dems.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,450 posts)
8. The timing is interesting
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 05:55 PM
Feb 2020

It seems everything is being spun into a blender as being a particularly disastrous day for the Democrats- The Iowa Caucus and Democrats at each other's throats (with some claiming rigging by the dastardly DNC), The 49% Trump Approval Gallup Poll, SOTU Address, which I'm sure will be Trump crowing out his new "Kingly" status and his pending acquittal, etc. Perfect storm of bad news. It shall all pass, though

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. People drawn, even a little bit, to authoritarian leaders need them
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 06:58 PM
Feb 2020

to be strong men, winners. Even those who don't like Trump are going to be favorably impressed, or reassured, by the strength displayed.

This was expected. A year ago we knew a removal effort would not be successful, not without actually catching him giving the nuclear codes to Putin, and perhaps not then since the defense would be it didn't happen.

What's interesting is how little approval has gone up. Of course, that's in part because it never dropped all that much either. He'll be back at 46 or so shortly.

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