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The Con was forced to remove the vindication ads - he is still impeached - if he shows up at the SOU tomorrow night, he still won't have been acquitted and even if his goons don't vote to remove him on Wednesday, it's still all downhill from here.
That was a major victory.
Raster
(20,998 posts)...there are whisperings that the Senate #republiCONS themselves asked that the vindication ads be removed. We shall see. A lot can happen in two days.
spooky3
(34,458 posts)since there was no trialand the indictment was damningthere is no exoneration. I hope people listen.
katmondoo
(6,457 posts)RVN VET71
(2,692 posts)but the Fox and loyalists and Nazi wannabes won't.
Interestingly and frighteningly enough, George Orwell did NOT say this:
"Just remember what youre seeing and what you're reading is not whats happening."
-President Trump did.
George Orwell, however, did say this:
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. -1984 by George Orwell
Notice any similarities? (I'm kidding. Of course y'all noticed the similarities -- but Trump's people would not, or they'd say, "Yeah, that second quote has _______ (fill in the blank: Obama, Biden, Schiff, Clinton, etc., etc.) written all over it. And the first quote is just pure wisdom from the Chosen One." Yes, they would. They'd say that and believe it from the gnarly black chest holes where their hearts used to be.)
catbyte
(34,403 posts)The audience is the 30% or so who doesn't pay attention but can be swayed by facts.
yonder
(9,667 posts)they wouldn't notice the significance.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)The interview with Hannity was a bust . . .
That commercial was a bust . .
Congratulation to the Chiefs was entirely a major fuck up.
Half time performance was a BIG F you - yay for Puerta Rico and other Latin cultures . .
malaise
(269,054 posts)was a major fuck up and a bust
Lock him up.
(6,933 posts)Since 30 years. He doesn't know which city is in which state. A criminal Ru$hapublican moron who's been bought and cultivated by Putin and his oligarchs to destroy the United States from within. Spread the word!
Botany
(70,516 posts)Pelosi, "You cannot be acquitted if you don't have a trial," she added.
Pelosi says Trump's acquittal won't be legitimate without witnesses
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/trump-impeachment-trial-01-30#pelosi-says-trumps-acquittal-wont-be-legitimate-without-witnesses
Pelosi says Trumps acquittal wont be legitimate without witnesses.
Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California said on Thursday that regardless of the outcome of his impeachment trial, if the Senate refuses to call new witnesses or subpoena more documents, President Trumps acquittal will not be legitimate.
He will not be acquitted, Ms. Pelosi told reporters at her weekly news conference, when asked whether the president is likely to be chastened or emboldened by the all but certain verdict in his favor, which could come as early as Friday.
You cannot be acquitted if you dont have a trial, she added. You dont have a trial if you dont have witnesses and documentation and all of that, she said.
The fate of our nation is riding on how this is resolved, Ms. Pelosi said. It isnt about just one person. Its about the precedent that it sets for the future.
The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming, Ms. Pelosi warned. And the president has led a clear path for them to interfere, once again, in our elections, as they are currently doing.
I just pray that the senators will have the courage, and the ability, to handle the truth, she added.
It was not the first bid by Ms. Pelosi to ensure that regardless of the outcome of the Senate trial, the public does not see an acquittal as an exoneration.
This president is impeached for life, regardless of any gamesmanship on the part of Mitch McConnell, she told ABC News this month. He will be impeached forever.
Thanx to DUer Dalton for posting this yesterday.
bdamomma
(63,875 posts)I wish he was imprisoned for life.
usaf-vet
(6,189 posts)A slogan worked then why not now!
"If you have no trial there can not be an acquittal"
Maybe a little tweak
"If you have no trial there can't be an acquittal!"
aggiesal
(8,918 posts)No Trial, No Acquittal
I could make some crude reference to Pendejo45 and T&A, but I'll leave it at that.
onetexan
(13,043 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)Did he actually produce a victory dance commercial that got pulled?
malaise
(269,054 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)But this sounds like there were actual produced spots and a media buy that got canceled at the last minute. Which would be huge news (at least in the ad world). I can't find a link.
malaise
(269,054 posts)That's why the plan was to acquit last Friday
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)And ready to go. They can repair it, but it wont have the same punch.
onetexan
(13,043 posts)malaise
(269,054 posts)as Mineral Man articulated very well
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212938072
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)malaise
(269,054 posts)so that he could look like a victor in front of everyone watching.
aggiesal
(8,918 posts)because it was on Faux Sports and the yuge, I mean yuge audience.
Here's my what if - what if the melt down is so bad tomorrow night that ReTHUGs have no choice but to vote to remove him from office on Wednesday for of course MEDICAL reasons with a complete pardon?
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Hours and hours of uninterrupted feeling good. Aaah!
jeffreyi
(1,943 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,435 posts)televising the SOTU address fact-checking the Rump via the crawl. It would be an incredible thing to see and THEE vindicating moment for the media who have let this shitstain run amok.
malaise
(269,054 posts)Great idea
llmart
(15,540 posts)The media were complicit in forcing this asswipe on us. They're only concerned with keeping the drama going for ratings reasons. It'll happen again come October.
generalbetrayus
(507 posts)at the same time just to keep up with his lying, hopefully running them across his fat face.
IronLionZion
(45,457 posts)malaise
(269,054 posts)Very nicely played
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)fuck you clapping....
It will make him furious.
malaise
(269,054 posts)Hope she wears a peach brooch
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)malaise
(269,054 posts)That's more likely - subtle is her style and she does love big beads.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)I told her she should just send one to Madame Speaker.
https://www.etsy.com/sg-en/listing/476927256/a-necklace-with-two-dangling-orange?ref=reviews
That would be cool
OMGWTF
(3,959 posts)Her daughter was with her when she bought the coat.
leftieNanner
(15,124 posts)It was a last year style that had been discontinued. Hefty price tag though - I think it sold for around $3,000.
Olafjoy
(937 posts)Is the FU clap 👏🏻 picture. Whenever anyone sees it I always get oh thats great, awesome etc.
mcar
(42,334 posts)I guess the desire for his Senators to bloviate is more important.
malaise
(269,054 posts)I too was surprised but Bolton threw down a huge boulder there.
blakstoneranger
(333 posts)The problem is no one wants to push the message that his trial was fixed. There was no sense of justice, he did not get a fair trial. There was no evidence, no witnesses, therefore no trial and the acquittal is a sham. WE CANNOT LET TRUMP SHAPE THE MESSAGE ON FOXNEWS AND TWITTER. They are already working on this. The spin is more important than the facts. If the republicans can spin this on foxnews and twitter that trump was railroaded and falsely accused, they win in the arena of public opinion. That's all trump cares about. We cannot just move on, we have to keep pushing the evidence, the witnesses, the facts. The CEOs of the major networks are already telling their people to "move on...; it's old news..", while trump and his toodies will still be pushing "exoneration" on foxnews, twitter, and talk radio.
malaise
(269,054 posts)Let's see what comes out in the next 48 hours.
NCDem47
(2,249 posts)Nothing, absolutley NOTHING, will change that (see Bill Clinton in the history books).
On "spin," Trump and the Republicans will do their best to make it look like the Senate circus wiped away anything prior.
malaise
(269,054 posts)Impeached forever
bdamomma
(63,875 posts)is that movie Inglorious Bastards at the end when they carved on that Nazi a "N" on his forehead. Be with him forever.
malaise
(269,054 posts)although he'll carry it visibly or invisibly to the grave.
The fun part will be watching ReTHUGs, who insist on calling Clinton an impeached president, telling us that the Con was acquitted.
King_Klonopin
(1,306 posts)because he is a dickhead.
bucolic_frolic
(43,182 posts)Greta Thunberg stared at him last July. He's wobbly on his feet now. 53 Senate Republicans to follow.
CrispyQ
(36,478 posts)I hope Obama wins that Oscar and that Time magazine puts both Michelle and Barack on the cover with their awards.
leftieNanner
(15,124 posts)I saw a report that Greta has been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize!
"Waaaah! That was mine because I solved the Middle East Peace!" - D. Trump
bdamomma
(63,875 posts)that's our youth waiting in wings to do a lot of good in the world.
Not like the party of tRump liars all. The history books will tell the horrid story.
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)The thought was making me absolutely sick.
malaise
(269,054 posts)That is a major victory
Now how would I love to watch the House of Representatives Marshals placing handcuffs on this monsters hands behind his back live on TV tomorrow night - but hey a lady can dream.
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)To delay the final vote.
mountain grammy
(26,624 posts)Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)the news to see if anything earth shaking happened and dotn have time to research...WHat happened? Vindication ads? Not finding anything with a quick search. LInk please?
yuiyoshida
(41,832 posts)His party thinks he can do no wrong and above the law... I am sure they will have more surprises for us..down the line..Surprised they haven't Robbed the US Treasury yet...
Hekate
(90,714 posts)Warpy
(111,277 posts)The Senate trial doesn't assess guilt or levy fines or punishment, it is a process to remove or retain someone for whom sufficient evidence of guilt already exists.
We need to hammer this home, the House already found sufficient proof of his guilt. The Senate simply failed to remove him over it on purely partisan grounds.
marieo1
(1,402 posts)Thank You, Malaise..........I think most of us are so depressed and wore out from all of this. I appreciate hearing a word of hope.
malaise
(269,054 posts)That is why he was impeached
localroger
(3,629 posts)They had to fall back on "but it doesn't rise to the level of an impeachable offense, even though he did everything you say." And of course that's an opinion that opens them up to plenty of well-deserved criticism and ridicule.
malaise
(269,054 posts)Even Lame Alexander admitted that he was guilty
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)the Con has remaining.
His legacy is, to be considered the worst, by far, president of these United States of America.
As long as humans write and read history, this fact will be true for all to learn.
The only shame will be, that those learning about him 50, 100, 1000 years hence, will not have a comprehensive feeling for just how despised he was at this time.
Down with the con, down for all eternity.
CousinIT
(9,247 posts)I was up fairly late and didn't see anything?
Explain?