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Russian mass-manipulation of Americans via Facebook (Original Post) catbyte Feb 2020 OP
They're traitors rockfordfile Feb 2020 #1
Netflix documentary -The Great Hack benld74 Feb 2020 #2
micro targeted ads! Johnny2X2X Feb 2020 #3
That is a great documentary, ... Whiskeytide Feb 2020 #7
Thanks for this, home with a cold today - loading this on Netflix to watch right now. I've followed chia Feb 2020 #10
Wanna change Facebook? SmartVoter22 Feb 2020 #4
I may quit one day HAB911 Feb 2020 #5
That's also a great way to inform advertisers SmartVoter22 Feb 2020 #6
Yes, please delete account! FormerOstrich Feb 2020 #8
Until the product is no longer liked SmartVoter22 Feb 2020 #9

benld74

(9,904 posts)
2. Netflix documentary -The Great Hack
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:53 AM
Feb 2020

Brings in all of 2016 goings on
Cambridge Analytica
Brexit
2016 Elections

All stuff we here know

nt

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
3. micro targeted ads!
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:57 AM
Feb 2020

It's simple, they used mind control techniques with ads written for micro segments of their audience based on detailed psychological profiles gathered from Facebook data. They are so effective that they could predict darned near the exact percentage of voters whose minds they could and would change.

And a lot of people don't get this, because if your psychological profile said you weren't persuadable, then you saw none of this. And know this too, these weren't necessarily ads on FB, they followed users around the internet and made sure headlines they created were visible in a variety of places. Targeted users maybe viewed several hundred fake headlines and read several dozen fake stories, each one tailored exactly to them.

And here's the bottom line, if the Democrats do not also have the same type of high tech campaign in 2020, we will lose.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
7. That is a great documentary, ...
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:18 AM
Feb 2020

... but programs like that are outdated, it seems, just a few weeks after they air. It all moves too fast for traditional media to keep up. Hell, a Maddow episode is often outdated by the next day.

Countering with reporting and knowledge is not enough. Our government has to attack this at the source. Not THIS government. The one after November.

chia

(2,244 posts)
10. Thanks for this, home with a cold today - loading this on Netflix to watch right now. I've followed
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:19 AM
Feb 2020

the Cambridge Analytica story from early 2017, after this article in the Guardian:

Robert Mercer: the big data billionaire waging war on mainstream media
With links to Donald Trump, Steve Bannon and Nigel Farage, the rightwing US computer scientist is at the heart of a multimillion-dollar propaganda network

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/26/robert-mercer-breitbart-war-on-media-steve-bannon-donald-trump-nigel-farage

SmartVoter22

(639 posts)
4. Wanna change Facebook?
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:07 AM
Feb 2020

It's easy and a normal economic fact. Delete your account and stay away for at least 6 months. The more people who quit, the more FB will pay attention and like every biz must--- change it's behaviors to suit customer's desires. A clear msg is sent.
Advertisers will run for the hills if there is a mass FB quit. Bad products are never rewarded by customers. We are the customers and we have the final say of FB bottom line.

HAB911

(8,904 posts)
5. I may quit one day
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:12 AM
Feb 2020

but for now

When I see an ad, I hide it and mark it as irrelevant, which is a choice. I go for months without seeing and ad now.

SmartVoter22

(639 posts)
6. That's also a great way to inform advertisers
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:18 AM
Feb 2020

Rejecting FB ads, like you do, is also a great way to let advertisers know how you feel. Account deletion is more 'global' as a protest, and your method is more targeted to the actual companies that use FB ads.
Using social media could be an effective feedback, using both methods.
When FB stopped the dislike feature, that limited feedback.

It's fun being an informed and pro-active consumer. Thanks.

FormerOstrich

(2,702 posts)
8. Yes, please delete account!
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:23 AM
Feb 2020

I agree with your recommendation to delete and not visit the site.

However, I don't agree the users are customers. They are not customers, they are in fact the product.

From that respect, the real customers (those that purchase the advertising) love the product (Facebook users)

SmartVoter22

(639 posts)
9. Until the product is no longer liked
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:42 AM
Feb 2020

The ad buyers like it for one basic economic reason. It is a very inexpensive ad cost.
I agree FB is a unique product, but with public sentiment against many of FB's failures, the product is changing and that fact is likely to change ad buyers choices.

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