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applegrove

(118,677 posts)
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 05:42 PM Feb 2020

Pelosi Sets Up McConnell's Republicans With Vote On Medicaid Cuts

Pelosi Sets Up McConnell’s Republicans With Vote On Medicare Cuts

By Jason Easley at Politicususa

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/02/01/pelosi-sets-up-mcconnells-republicans-by-forcing-vote-on-medicaid-cuts.html

"SNIP......

Pelosi and Hoyer announced the House vote for on February 6 in a statement provided to PoliticusUSA, “On Thursday, the House will consider a resolution to disapprove of President Trump’s proposed cuts to Medicaid services through his new illegal block-grant scheme. Congress has a responsibility to protect Medicaid beneficiaries from the harm that would be caused by this new guidance. The goal of this new waiver is clear: reduce access to health care for millions of low-income Americans, including access to affordable prescription drugs. The Democratic-led House will not allow this challenge to health care access in our country to go unanswered.”

Senate Republicans will have go on the record as supporting cutting healthcare

Speaker Pelosi is going to make the 2020 election about healthcare. She is setting McConnell and his vulnerable Senate Republican incumbents up. Once the House passes their resolution, Democratic Leader Sen. Chuck Schumer will be able to force a vote on it in the Senate.

Republican Senate incumbents like Colorado, North Carolina, and Arizona will have to go on the record as supporting taking away health insurance from millions of Americans.

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Pelosi Sets Up McConnell's Republicans With Vote On Medicaid Cuts (Original Post) applegrove Feb 2020 OP
There will be no Senate vote on this. Cartoonist Feb 2020 #1
Yeah, not sure there would be one. McConnell squashed most of the other initiatives. TheBlackAdder Feb 2020 #4
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but Eyeball_Kid Feb 2020 #26
If McConnell quashes the vote or if GOP senators vote "No", they can NCjack Feb 2020 #29
I think they need a majority to demand a vote NewJeffCT Feb 2020 #33
Very very cool. Leghorn21 Feb 2020 #2
I don't think McConnell will let this see the light of day. Scotch-Irish Feb 2020 #3
Then Dems can say Republicans are hiding their plans and make an ad out applegrove Feb 2020 #6
fascist states have already been kicking people off expanded medicaid after tRump gave them the ok yaesu Feb 2020 #8
Nationwide Political Ad Red Meat Brother Mythos Feb 2020 #12
It will not see the light of day on Fox News, hence only Dems will hear about it and nothing changes LiberalArkie Feb 2020 #16
took the words right out of my mouth In It to Win It Feb 2020 #19
I believe these resolutions receive expedited consideration in the Senate and are immune tritsofme Feb 2020 #11
Until they change the rules. NYC Liberal Feb 2020 #15
Unlikely, the process is set by statute. tritsofme Feb 2020 #23
Keep pitching those fast balls Nancy. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #5
good on them. nt yaesu Feb 2020 #7
the bill sweetapogee Feb 2020 #9
Adding this thread malaise Feb 2020 #10
Sounds like the Dems are Wellstone ruled Feb 2020 #13
Good! peggysue2 Feb 2020 #14
I've seen Medicaid work. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2020 #27
What is to keep Republicans from... Gymbo Feb 2020 #17
Take them out of the building I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2020 #18
What is to stop them from mumbling they are going to cut medicaid applegrove Feb 2020 #21
Speaker Pelosi is doing everything she can. NoMoreRepugs Feb 2020 #20
As Pelosi's daughter said Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #22
What say you, Kentucky voters? llmart Feb 2020 #24
Well, this KY voter votes a straight Democrat ticket Stonepounder Feb 2020 #31
Good for you and your wife! llmart Feb 2020 #32
We're getting there. Stonepounder Feb 2020 #37
Then there's the other thread about the gun toting idiots... llmart Feb 2020 #38
Yeah, the gun nuts at the statehouse is bonafide crazy. Stonepounder Feb 2020 #41
Hey, now. llmart Feb 2020 #42
I was born and raised in Columbus, Ohio and went to OSU. Stonepounder Feb 2020 #43
We need statements to be voted on regarding idahoblue Feb 2020 #25
Republicans would be thrilled with Medicaid cuts.... AJT Feb 2020 #28
Drawing a line in the sand on policy and beliefs bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #30
Its a good strategy, but by itself, in my humble opinion, only ooky Feb 2020 #34
Nancy, Nancy, Darling Nancy! Me. Feb 2020 #35
We're not giving up the fight, and we have an excellent leader in Pelosi! Nitram Feb 2020 #36
I've learned to support almost everything the speaker does stopdiggin Feb 2020 #39
I count 10 possible goPutin senate seats turning blue.... Hulk Feb 2020 #40

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
26. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 12:16 PM
Feb 2020

every sitting Senator has the right to ignore the majority leader's directives and introduce motions on the floor of the Senate and to demand a vote. McConnell's control is not complete. It is only customary to defer to the majority leader, not mandatory.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
29. If McConnell quashes the vote or if GOP senators vote "No", they can
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 12:36 PM
Feb 2020

run for reelection with it tied to their necks.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
33. I think they need a majority to demand a vote
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 01:06 PM
Feb 2020

so, they would need to get 4 Republicans to vote with them

 

Scotch-Irish

(464 posts)
3. I don't think McConnell will let this see the light of day.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 06:10 PM
Feb 2020

Chuck might bring it to the floor, but Mitch can refuse to have the vote.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
8. fascist states have already been kicking people off expanded medicaid after tRump gave them the ok
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 07:06 PM
Feb 2020

mostly adding work requirements and such.

Brother Mythos

(1,442 posts)
12. Nationwide Political Ad Red Meat
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 07:30 PM
Feb 2020

Using this resolution as the subject of nationwide political ads does sound like the real objective. I doubt McConnell will let it see the light of day in the Senate.

tritsofme

(17,379 posts)
11. I believe these resolutions receive expedited consideration in the Senate and are immune
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 07:19 PM
Feb 2020

from filibuster. So Mitch can’t stop the vote from happening.

sheshe2

(83,785 posts)
5. Keep pitching those fast balls Nancy.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 06:16 PM
Feb 2020

A no response from Mitch and the GOP will just as telling as a vote. None of them give one S**T about the American people, they proved that yesterday.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
13. Sounds like the Dems are
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 07:35 PM
Feb 2020

going for Moscow Mitch's throat. Just as the Votes were recorded to Give Their King a Pass.

We are in the early part of the Campaign Season. Getting the Rethugs on Record on repealing of Social Legislation works in our favor immensely.

Said it before,the Speaker has the Nations back 100%,no matter what happens in the Mushy Senate.

peggysue2

(10,830 posts)
14. Good!
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 08:04 PM
Feb 2020

Make these suckers pay this way to Sunday. And expose the lying underbelly of the GOP. Don't think a whole lot of Trump supporters will be thrilled with Medicaid cuts, particularly after Trump has crowed he's the 'healthcare guy.'

Let's see if they're as eager to vote for this as they were to vote No Witnesses.

My guess? Not really.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
27. I've seen Medicaid work.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 12:25 PM
Feb 2020

It is the final safety net that reduces suffering and, indeed, prevents death, for countless Americans, who rely on Medicaid to survive.

But one of Trump's sources of delight is causing and increasing suffering for those who don't have his money and power. Yes, he's an evil man who demonstrates, on a daily basis, the very essence of evil.

So, of course he can punch down on the poor, the sick, and the disabled. They're low hanging fruit for him. He loves it.

Gymbo

(133 posts)
17. What is to keep Republicans from...
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 08:27 PM
Feb 2020

Voting for concurrence, and doing whatever they want to do later? We are dealing with the new Republican party, where rules and honor no longer exist. What is the proper response to a group like that?

applegrove

(118,677 posts)
21. What is to stop them from mumbling they are going to cut medicaid
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:44 PM
Feb 2020

and social security under their breath, like Trump just did, then saying some lie that they are not, running with vagueness, winning and then cutting medicaid and social security all the while saying they stated it out loud and the people voted for it and it is what the people want?

llmart

(15,540 posts)
24. What say you, Kentucky voters?
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 09:33 AM
Feb 2020

Are you going to keep this jackass in the Senate while he cuts your health care assistance or doesn't even allow a vote on it?

I think Pelosi is making another damned smart move here. I'm sure there are plenty of McConnell supporters in Kentucky who wouldn't be too happy with this.

Oh, and Amy McGrath can use it against him too. Let her campaign push this all over the Kentucky airwaves.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
31. Well, this KY voter votes a straight Democrat ticket
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 12:59 PM
Feb 2020

and votes in every election from county dog catcher right up to President. As does the Mrs.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
32. Good for you and your wife!
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 01:04 PM
Feb 2020

I wish Kentucky would get on the bandwagon already. Many there seem to be stuck in the dark ages.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
37. We're getting there.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 04:36 PM
Feb 2020

The large cities are already Blue and the northern part of the state is heading that way. However, the southern part of the state is still bright red for reasons nobody can understand. Although Trump and Moscow Mitch promised a resurgence of coal mining which has failed spectacularly and may start peeling some of the rural votes away from the GOP. (Crossing my fingers.)

llmart

(15,540 posts)
38. Then there's the other thread about the gun toting idiots...
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 04:43 PM
Feb 2020

who were allowed to bypass security.

So, you still have a long way to go before people think of Kentucky like, "Oh, boy would I like to live there."

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
41. Yeah, the gun nuts at the statehouse is bonafide crazy.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 06:46 PM
Feb 2020

I live as far north in KY as is possible and not be living in a houseboat on the Ohio River. There voter registration list show almost a 50-50% split between GOP and Dem and while the population is predominantly White we have a quite a few Muslims, Blacks, Jews, and the like and nobody seems to worry about it. My Pulmonologist is African and the Mrs.' Endocrinologist is Pakistani. So we think its a pretty good place to live. Could be worse, we could live in Ohio. :-p

Unfortunately, even though we managed to get rid of our Republican Governor, the KY House and KY Senate still have a super-majority, but we're working on that as well.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
42. Hey, now.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 10:52 PM
Feb 2020

Don't disparage Ohio. That's where I was born and raised. Not there any longer (thankfully).

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
43. I was born and raised in Columbus, Ohio and went to OSU.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:44 AM
Feb 2020

That was back in the days of no whole house air conditioning and many a night I would find myself drenched in sweat from the heat and humidity. I moved to California as soon as I could. I was never aware that Ohio was such a Right Wing state. Although I was raised as a liberal.

idahoblue

(377 posts)
25. We need statements to be voted on regarding
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 11:51 AM
Feb 2020

The rape and plunder of public lands
The reversal of environmental laws
Child separation policies
Voter rights
Civil rights
Every attack on our country by Donald and his minions

AJT

(5,240 posts)
28. Republicans would be thrilled with Medicaid cuts....
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 12:36 PM
Feb 2020

there dumb enough to think only "those people" use Medicaid. They will howl if there are cuts to Medicare

bucolic_frolic

(43,176 posts)
30. Drawing a line in the sand on policy and beliefs
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 12:39 PM
Feb 2020

Time was we didn't have to do this, we just said "New Deal" and everyone knew what we were talking about.

Speaker Pelosi is doing our heavy lifting, and we must all follow.

But the Democratic Party must strengthen its ideology, beliefs, policy agenda for all to see. I don't think we've made a strong statement on what we believe since Mario Cuomo's 1984 "Shining City on a Hill" Democratic National Convention Speech. I mean one that really got into details and why we believe what we believe. Don't get me wrong, there have been rousing convention speeches from Obama, Sen. Ted Kennedy, former President Clinton which were strong on policy and told Democrats what they stood for, but ideology - no. Ideology gets to the very root.

ooky

(8,924 posts)
34. Its a good strategy, but by itself, in my humble opinion, only
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 01:30 PM
Feb 2020

marginally effective for gaining votes when we know that the Republican candidates will simply lie about it to their voters and that many "could be" voters using Medicaid won't know about it or go to the polls.

I'm saying this because we have to help Nancy Pelosi do some of the lifting to educate those voters.

My millennial children have a wide network of friends and acquaintances and I know that a number of them have small children or financial situations in which they are using Medicaid. I also know that most of them are ignorant of political matters and some of them listen to republican bullshit like "guns" or have been influenced by their ignorant and/or MAGAT parents, watch Fox for their news, etc. I will make sure that among this group that the word gets out to them that their health care is under attack by King Trump and his Republican cronies, and carefully explain to them that if they vote for Trump they are voting to pay for their own health care.

I think that we all need to help get the word out to those we know could be potentially effected by Medicaid block grants if we want to maximize the election potential of this issue to our advantage.

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
39. I've learned to support almost everything the speaker does
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 04:52 PM
Feb 2020

she's pretty much dead on, pretty much all the time.
In this case .. maybe a little closer to the actual election? (although the Ds could have a LOT of these votes in the pipeline?)

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
40. I count 10 possible goPutin senate seats turning blue....
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 05:17 PM
Feb 2020

That would be a good start. I'm sure I'm counting on pie in the sky, but there are really 10 seats up for grabs....moscow mitch being one of them.

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