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tavernier

(12,388 posts)
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 07:28 AM Feb 2020

Was this a Have Your Cake and Eat it Too move for Susan Collins?

She voted for witnesses knowing full well that it wouldn’t pass but that her vote might appease her constituents who have had it with her “great concern” nonsense.
Nice political chess move, sweetie, but I don’t think it will be enough to keep your senate seat this time around. And my intuition tells me that you won’t vote to remove on Wednesday.

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Was this a Have Your Cake and Eat it Too move for Susan Collins? (Original Post) tavernier Feb 2020 OP
She'd like to believe it is. peacefreak2.0 Feb 2020 #1
Interesting! I'm from Florida so of course tavernier Feb 2020 #2
You've got your own special kind of stupid in Florida with Rubio. llmart Feb 2020 #5
Ain't it the truth? tavernier Feb 2020 #8
That's encouraging for those of us who don't live in Maine. llmart Feb 2020 #4
Stephen King would like to get rid of her, too. murielm99 Feb 2020 #6
The King family does a lot for the state of Maine. peacefreak2.0 Feb 2020 #23
Well Suzy Side-kick thought it was Vogon_Glory Feb 2020 #3
Time will tell Sherman A1 Feb 2020 #7
She obviously voted as she did to stand on both sides of the aisle. TruckFump Feb 2020 #9
No gab13by13 Feb 2020 #10
I think she probably got the ok from Mitch after he confirmed his win. dhol82 Feb 2020 #11
Most responses I have seen BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #12
She was given a "hall pass". NellieStarbuck Feb 2020 #13
She voted AGAINST the Bolton subpoena after she voted FOR witnesses Zolorp Feb 2020 #14
It's pretty obvious she was allowed to vote for witnesses DeminPennswoods Feb 2020 #15
Quite the opposite in this mid coast Maine household. PWPippinesq Feb 2020 #26
Mainers are tough people I've heard. Still In Wisconsin Feb 2020 #37
Yes of course, and how you know is that she isn't being savaged by Trump. OnDoutside Feb 2020 #16
Obviously Danmel Feb 2020 #17
Yep, part of the script. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #18
Need you ask. Scruffy1 Feb 2020 #19
Keep Away from Runaround Sue LaMouffette Feb 2020 #20
Welcome to teh DU, LaMouffette. Hugin Feb 2020 #22
Thank you! LaMouffette Feb 2020 #32
An upside of events that are disappointing for Dems is an influx of new and passionate DUers. John1956PA Feb 2020 #28
Thanks so much! LaMouffette Feb 2020 #33
Naw, it wasn't a political chess move... Checkers, maybe. n/t Hugin Feb 2020 #21
People are on to her game, and the democrat that she will face is tough. nt Blue_true Feb 2020 #24
Yes, this was the bonus to what GOPthink considers a snuffing of Democrats bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #25
Someone on MSNBC last night asif the only Republican with coverage last night was Romney. dem4decades Feb 2020 #27
Romney is safe and sound in Utah. paleotn Feb 2020 #31
The yes vote.... paleotn Feb 2020 #29
It's a game she plays every time there is an important vote.... spanone Feb 2020 #30
She will be "courageous" only if she votes to remove jpak Feb 2020 #34
We know it's a bs vote but confirmation will come... lame54 Feb 2020 #35
Do many or any of her constituents believe her dance moves anymore?!1 UTUSN Feb 2020 #36
The sweetest revenge for us rusty fender Feb 2020 #38

peacefreak2.0

(1,023 posts)
1. She'd like to believe it is.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 07:33 AM
Feb 2020

Truth is she’s played that card too many times. Driving around the Midcoast I’m seeing a lot more “Bye Bye, Susan” bumper stickers all the time.

llmart

(15,539 posts)
5. You've got your own special kind of stupid in Florida with Rubio.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 07:47 AM
Feb 2020

Can you guys please kick him to the curb?

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
8. Ain't it the truth?
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 08:01 AM
Feb 2020

Well he did say Rump was guilty. It’s just that he can’t do anything about it because he was born without a spine.

murielm99

(30,741 posts)
6. Stephen King would like to get rid of her, too.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 07:50 AM
Feb 2020

Does that help? Is he popular there, or is he resented?

peacefreak2.0

(1,023 posts)
23. The King family does a lot for the state of Maine.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:49 AM
Feb 2020

They’re very well respected and the man sure knows horror when he sees it.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
9. She obviously voted as she did to stand on both sides of the aisle.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 08:41 AM
Feb 2020

Susie-dear, it's not gonna save your seat.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
11. I think she probably got the ok from Mitch after he confirmed his win.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 08:48 AM
Feb 2020

Can’t imagine her actually having a moral moment.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
12. Most responses I have seen
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:00 AM
Feb 2020

in other places believe that she got a pass from McConnnell on this because he already had the votes for blocking witnesses and that she should NOT get any credit for it.

So I think not.

But frankly, I have always thought that the phrase "have one's cake and ear it too" is senseless. Why else would one even want cake WITHOUT eating it?

I much prefer the French saying " avoir le beurre et l'argent du beurre" (to have one's butter AND the money for it).


 

Zolorp

(1,115 posts)
14. She voted AGAINST the Bolton subpoena after she voted FOR witnesses
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:10 AM
Feb 2020

They were given turns to vote for something. That was Moscow Mitch's consolation prize. Plus, the LAST thing any of those in tough races wanted was any witness. Then they would be forced to vote to convict which would draw a loony primary opponent.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
15. It's pretty obvious she was allowed to vote for witnesses
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:11 AM
Feb 2020

once McConnell has 51 votes. I don't think she'll get credit for it with Maine voters.

PWPippinesq

(195 posts)
26. Quite the opposite in this mid coast Maine household.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:27 AM
Feb 2020

She's toast and this old war horse will work hard to make it happen.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
18. Yep, part of the script.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:27 AM
Feb 2020

Her move was calculated and a part of the GOP strategy. They're hoping it saves them a Senate seat.

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
19. Need you ask.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:32 AM
Feb 2020

As Schumer famously said about her: "She's always arouund with a vote when you don't need it." I actually despise her more than some of the more "honest" fascists bastards in the Senate. The minions of the press will keep up with the "moderate" label, but I think most voters are smarter than that. I can't think of any instances in her long and evil carreer where she bucked the party when it actually counted.

LaMouffette

(2,030 posts)
20. Keep Away from Runaround Sue
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:39 AM
Feb 2020

Upon reading this thread, this classic song popped in my head. I hope it becomes an anthem for those hoping to kick this two-faced, "I-will-only-serve-for-two-terms" hypocrite out of the Senate.

(By the way, this is my first post on DU. The impeachment trial put me over the edge and put an end to my lurking on the site. Love all y'all on the forums! You have been a great moral and emotional support over the past two years. And yes, my username LaMouffette is French for "the skunk." No particular reason I picked that beyond the fact that, well, I think skunks are cute.)

Keep Away from Runaround Sue

Here's my story, it's sad but true
It's about a girl that I once knew
She took my love then ran around
With every single guy in town

Yeah, I should have known it from the very start
This girl will leave me with a broken heart
Now listen people what I'm telling you
A keep away from a Runaround Sue yeah

I might miss her lips and the smile on her face
The touch of her hair and this girl's warm embrace
So if you don't want to cry like I do
A keep away from a Runaround Sue

Ah, she likes to travel around
She'll love you and she'll put you down
Now people let me put you wise
Sue goes out with other guys

Here's the moral of the story from the guy who knows
I fell in love and my love still grows
Ask any fool that she ever knew, they'll say
Keep away from a Runaround Sue

John1956PA

(2,654 posts)
28. An upside of events that are disappointing for Dems is an influx of new and passionate DUers.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:28 AM
Feb 2020

Welcome, LaMouffette. I appreciate your post, and I look forward to reading more of them from you.



bucolic_frolic

(43,163 posts)
25. Yes, this was the bonus to what GOPthink considers a snuffing of Democrats
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:26 AM
Feb 2020

Bet we get the last laugh on this one.

dem4decades

(11,294 posts)
27. Someone on MSNBC last night asif the only Republican with coverage last night was Romney.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:27 AM
Feb 2020

Collins was a vote of convenience.

paleotn

(17,913 posts)
31. Romney is safe and sound in Utah.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:34 AM
Feb 2020

Mormons don't like *. So, not only are we now in league with erstwhile Republican operatives who were the bane of Dems for years, but also Utah Mormons. Oh, the irony!

paleotn

(17,913 posts)
29. The yes vote....
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:31 AM
Feb 2020

will hurt her among wing nuts north of Augusta. Particularly if Dem operatives play it well. She's already cooked with independents and moderate Dems in the south, thus her horrible approval rating. Collins was between a rock and a hard place no matter what she did. The victim of shifting political trends in New England. *, McConnell, et al. have dragged their party so close to crazy town that conservative leaning Yankees can't support them anymore. And magats don't like wafflers of any kind to begin with. You're either with the orange emperor or you're agin' him. So, in short, she was cooked before the Senate fiasco even began.

spanone

(135,833 posts)
30. It's a game she plays every time there is an important vote....
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:32 AM
Feb 2020

either her voters are dopes or they enjoy being duped

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