Did I correctly hear that Pat Cipollone was in the room

[madaboutharry]

when this entire shakedown was first floated to Bolton?

[Mike 03]

1. YES

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212933525

[RANDYWILDMAN]

2. He is a fake and dirty as the rest of them are

Wht a joke....All hail the the king

[Zolorp]

3. Yep

That gem dropped right before a vote for witnesses.

[Iliyah]

4. Yes .. .

and in normal times he would be ousted and this sham trial a mistrial . . .

[dchill]

5. There is nothing wrong with your hearing.

Cipollone has always been in the loop.

[bluestarone]

6. shit even mcturtle knows everything

lying fuckers

[Grasswire2]

7. He should not even be allowed to participate

He represents the presidency and is paid to do so.

Not the president.

Outrageous.

[Arkansas Granny]

8. It's no wonder they don't want witnesses. Their whole case would be sunk.

[Raster]

9. YES! He's just as dirty as the rest of them...

...which goes to prove the GOP* and other miscreants are not fighting to save tRump*, they are fighting to save themselves. ALL OF THEM were in on the Ukraine scam. And this is why #MoscowMitch is fighting so hard NOT to have witnesses testify... All it would take would be someone in the know to testify and this whole thing would blow up.

[TruckFump]

10. YES!

I am wondering where he is licensed to practice. Knowingly misleading a tribunal -- can be a reason for disbarment.

[ScratchCat]

13. Its not even a grey area

If a criminal defense attorney knows his/her client is guilty because the client has said so, then the attorney can't argue that his/her client didn't commit the crime(they could offer a defense, but can't argue they didn't do it). I am pretty sure Cipollone has stated that Trump never pressured anyone.

[TruckFump]

19. Works both in civil and criminal practice -- Rules of Professional Practice

Cannot mislead a tribunal. I can be grounds for disbarment, but most certainly it is grounds for some kind of discipline if knowingly done.

[ScratchCat]

20. Agree

Yeh, I was just giving one example. An attorney misleading any proceeding is not good. He looks to be in deep doo. Another head scratching decision by someone to practically throw their career away for no good reason.

[TruckFump]

22. You know if he was involved in what Trump did -- other than just as a witness...

...he was a complete fool to get involved. But...then...he is a corrupt Republican who works for Trump -- that most likely is far more than being foolish! Being a witness and misrepresenting is bad enough and IMO grounds for discipline. But actual involvement in the scheme??? Wow...that is so over the top.

[bigbrother05]

35. Attorney/client privilege breaks down when others are in the room

[dalton99a]

16. Washington D.C. and Illinois

[spanone]

11. The corruption is river deep and mountain high.

How did this get out?

[brush]

12. Yep, and he's been defending trump on the Senate floor. Can you say disbarment?

[denem]

14. 'Can you say disbarment' - Why yes, yes you can.

Link to tweet

[2naSalit]

24. And there it is...

at least where this one character is concerned. Now we know his interest... the stuff coming out in a slow drip until November and beyond which will keep this issue front and center all the way.

[LonePirate]

15. He's definitely in danger of losing his law license.

[Hortensis]

17. :) Yes. Poor McConnell. He's going to have TBI and PTSD bad

with all these bombshells that keep exploding in and around his fake trial. Cipollone carried this one in strapped to his back, though, when everyone must have known Bolton was holding the detonator.

[unc70]

27. Just a headache

[Hortensis]

30. The Bolton book is not just one giant bomb that went off

in the middle of the fake trial, but a series on delayed fuses. To begin, Trump never told McConnell he had the manuscript in December and what it said. Just let McConnell march onto the field and then boom!!!!. Possibly throwing him along with Republican control of the senate under the bus. And boom, boom, boom ever since.

This latest is reportedly a big one, right under McConnell's feet.

And turns out the book is scheduled to come out in 3 weeks, not next fall.

[lagomorph777]

36. The rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air.

Cipollone looked visibly ill after Schiff revealed his part in the plot.

[kentuck]

18. And he was wanting to put Schiff on the stand yesterday.

He should be on the stand, under oath. Lying stack of shit.

[2naSalit]

25. That was one of many

appalling things I heard from his lizzardlips yesterday. I had to go find something else to do.

[lagomorph777]

34. Schiff has now outed Cipollone as a fact witness - with Cipollone, Roberts, and the Senate present.

So, who's crying now?

[magicarpet]

43. Cipollone a fact witness & defense lawyer

This underhanded ploy is reminiscent of what Nunes pulled. He was jetting all around Europe building a strong case to help King of Orange exonerate himself.

Then Nunes came back to the US House to examine possible wrong doings by the same King of Orange.

A witness of fact and a finder of fact can not play both sides of the table.

[wishstar]

21. Sekulow was in the loop too at one point, reportedly didn't like the scheme

but Cipollone has got to be the smoothest conman of the bunch of lying sycophants

[2naSalit]

26. Smoothest?

I didn't get that impression, slimy would apply but he has no finesse.

[Ilsa]

23. We should start sending him flyers to community colleges and

other re-education programs since he might lose his license. I hope. #ETTD*


Everything Trump Touches Dies

[2naSalit]

28. I hope to hear about this during the day today prior to the vote.

If this is loudly public, there's going to be gallons of cold sweat oozing out of that room.

[lagomorph777]

32. Your wish has been granted. Schiff read the NYT report aloud, with Cipollone sitting right there.

It was fucking priceless. Cipollone appeared to have shat his panties.

[2naSalit]

37. I missed it!

Rats! I'm sure the internet video angels will provide a clip of that so we can watch it ad nauseum to quell our outrage knowing it will be a campaign ad.

[lagomorph777]

40. I've tuned in for about 10 minutes in the past two weeks.

Can't stand to watch the Russiapublicans flush America down the toilet.

I can't believe my good fortune to tune in at that exact moment.

[2naSalit]

41. Hahaha!

That's good timing! I was experiencing livestream crash at that very moment. I like to catch the MSNBC analysis but the streams I use cut me off after a spell and I have to reload them and they only work again after I wait a few minutes.

[moondust]

29. "Co-conspirator" Cipollone.

If he was in the room he was probably advising on the legal aspects of the conspiracy and how to escape justice.

[lagomorph777]

31. Yes - Schiff just publicly outed Cipollone right to his face in the Senate well.

When the C-Span camera finally showed Cipollone, he was visibly shocked and shaken, staring at Schiff. Fucking priceless.

Schiff read the NYT report, which cites Bolton as claiming Cipollone was in the room when Trump ordered Bolton to participate in strong-arming Zelenskyy. Bolton says he refused.

[gab13by13]

33. Schiff reamed Cipollone a new azzhole,

Dems are wasting their time talking about doing what is fair. Hammer them about Cipollone and infer that he lied. Hammer them about Bolton's new evidence, repeat it. I hope they save enough time for Schiff to rebuff the Republican lies. Schiff looks pissed. He glared at Cipollone.

[ehrnst]

38. YEP!

[2naSalit]

39. !!!

I missed the live version but I am looking forward to the replays when they show up!

[Rider3]

42. Yes, yes you did hear that.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

44. Yep