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Chance that Roberts will join with the 3 Senators and call for witnesses? (Original Post) brush Jan 2020 OP
Collins, but who are the other two? Iliyah Jan 2020 #1
People are counting wryter2000 Jan 2020 #3
Romney and Murkowski. brush Jan 2020 #5
They let them vote yes ...she needs to go Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #23
Question wryter2000 Jan 2020 #2
'Tie' status quo. elleng Jan 2020 #6
? wryter2000 Jan 2020 #7
Essentially, yes; elleng Jan 2020 #10
Roberts has no "vote." He is not a senator. The same goes for Pence. PSPS Jan 2020 #8
That isn't true DeminPennswoods Jan 2020 #21
Zero chance - JMHO. Marie Marie Jan 2020 #4
Roberts has no "vote." He is not a senator. The same goes for Pence. PSPS Jan 2020 #9
If Pence were presiding over the trial of any other official, he'd have a vote in case of a tie. tritsofme Jan 2020 #11
Roberts could state his preference before the vote. brush Jan 2020 #13
Z.E.R.O. RockRaven Jan 2020 #12
agree! n/t orleans Jan 2020 #14
I agree. n/t EndlessWire Jan 2020 #24
Big Goose Egg. Ain't gonna happen. KPN Jan 2020 #15
None. Going by what Sen. Whitehouse said tonight. Hekate Jan 2020 #16
CJ Chase precedent or rethug stooge JT45242 Jan 2020 #17
Haven't heard this precedent. Worth publicizing. empedocles Jan 2020 #20
Has Roberts been called by trump? duforsure Jan 2020 #18
Don't think traitortrump would hesitate to threaten cj roberts. empedocles Jan 2020 #19
None. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #22

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
21. That isn't true
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 08:08 AM
Jan 2020

Pence has no role in the trial. The CJ is the presiding officer of the Senate during the trial meaning he could rule if he chose to do so. However, I expect Roberts will remain neutral. The Supreme Court has cases working there way up that are pertinent to issues being argued by both parties. I suppose it's possible that if Roberts would break a tie, lawyers arguing the relevent cases before the USSC might ask him to recuse himself.

It will be fascinating to see what Roberts takes away from all he has seen and heard presiding over the trial and that plays a role in future court decisions.

tritsofme

(17,379 posts)
11. If Pence were presiding over the trial of any other official, he'd have a vote in case of a tie.
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 01:59 AM
Jan 2020

It’s theoretically tricky, though Roberts is very unlikely to cast a vote.

brush

(53,782 posts)
13. Roberts could state his preference before the vote.
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 02:10 AM
Jan 2020

It would be nice but I don't expect it—kinda partially make up for Citizens United and for gutting the Civil Rights Act.

RockRaven

(14,967 posts)
12. Z.E.R.O.
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 02:00 AM
Jan 2020

He will do NOTHING while lamenting other people being so uncivil/disrespectful and the gee-who-can-explain-it-? degradation of our government institutions.

JT45242

(2,278 posts)
17. CJ Chase precedent or rethug stooge
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 07:07 AM
Jan 2020

The legal precedent from the Andrew Johnson trial is that a tie vote then goes to the presiding officer, usually the VP but in this case, the chief justice.

So, would Roberts follow precedent of one of the respected CJ or will he be a rethug stooge. My guess sadly, is that this is how the democracy dies. He chooses party over legacy. Of course, since winners write history books, he may think that he will be on the right side of history just like Putin, Stalin, Pol pot, and all the authoritarian leaders who believed the Nazi adage that you can change all of public perception in just a few years by controlling the media and the schools.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
18. Has Roberts been called by trump?
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 07:30 AM
Jan 2020

And is now compromised also ? Should he have recused himself ? I do not trust him to be honest , and will refuse to do whats right now. Has Roberts been corrupted with all the other republicans in Congress now? Democrats needs to look into this.

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