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Susan Collins Yes on witnesses (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 OP
Sheldon Whitehouse just called it a "hallpass" on MSNBC n/t Blaukraut Jan 2020 #1
Yes, he sounds really depressed. pamela Jan 2020 #5
It is...it's a fucking show. We know this already. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #8
I'm good with no witnesses. It really brings home the cover up. Blaukraut Jan 2020 #11
Either way they are fucked. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #14
Agreed. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #15
Well, color me shocked! dhol82 Jan 2020 #2
Good question. Many assurances coming her way JDC Jan 2020 #6
Yup. dhol82 Jan 2020 #23
:::: THUD :::: 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2020 #3
Then Lamar! must be a no. RandySF Jan 2020 #4
Yep, they're giving her political cover. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #10
It's official, he's a no. RandySF Jan 2020 #13
EXACTLY. She doesn't make "brave" choices; she makes only safe choices. Grown2Hate Jan 2020 #12
He is - just announced on MSNBC. crickets Jan 2020 #16
*eyebrow raise* Afromania Jan 2020 #7
I will shit in my hat on 5th Avenue if pukes vote for witnesses. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #9
Better have your pants down as soon as that hat touches the ground, if Blue_true Jan 2020 #19
Only because she knows it's not going to happen.... marmar Jan 2020 #17
Exactly Right DarthDem Jan 2020 #30
As scripted as a pro wrestling match gratuitous Jan 2020 #18
Ayup DarthDem Jan 2020 #31
She's got cover, so whatever greenjar_01 Jan 2020 #20
Means nothing Joinfortmill Jan 2020 #21
She's declaring a "yes", at least until she casts her vote. nt woodsprite Jan 2020 #22
Only because there aren't 51 votes Generic Brad Jan 2020 #24
And then she will vote to acquit no matter what. dalton99a Jan 2020 #25
Worthless and meaningless. No one believes her. 58Sunliner Jan 2020 #26
Susie got permission MontanaMama Jan 2020 #27
Instead of giving into a depressed state, sprinkleeninow Jan 2020 #28
I am shocked and dismayed at the cynicism on display here. Do we not believe in redemption? Midnight Writer Jan 2020 #29
LOL DarthDem Jan 2020 #32
That's awful news Recursion Jan 2020 #33
At least with KAV RANDYWILDMAN Jan 2020 #34
Collins is only voting yes because her vote won't matter either way, Greybnk48 Jan 2020 #35
It's just a sick game for RepubliCONs - sad that even one voter would fall for this. polichick Jan 2020 #36
LOLOLOL Sugarcoated Jan 2020 #37
She will vote... Mike Nelson Jan 2020 #38
she waited until she got permission from McConnel eShirl Jan 2020 #39
Exactly. He let her know to save her ass, her vote was irrelevant. Greybnk48 Jan 2020 #42
I hope people aren't falling for this-it's purely show. No real deliberations have taken place EleanorR Jan 2020 #40
Only because they don't need her vote. Nothing to see here. Iggo Jan 2020 #41
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. 🙄🙄 live love laugh Jan 2020 #43

Blaukraut

(5,693 posts)
11. I'm good with no witnesses. It really brings home the cover up.
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:02 AM
Jan 2020

If there are witnesses, they can claim it was fair.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
15. Agreed.
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:05 AM
Jan 2020

I don't think the outcome was ever in doubt. The most vulnerable Republicans got to pretend that they care for their constituents and Collins got political cover. But the end result is the same as it was ever going to be.

Grown2Hate

(2,012 posts)
12. EXACTLY. She doesn't make "brave" choices; she makes only safe choices.
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:03 AM
Jan 2020

There isn't a spine among them.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. Better have your pants down as soon as that hat touches the ground, if
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:07 AM
Jan 2020

not, by the time you got your belt loose it would be full to the brim. I don't expect Republicans to call witnesses. They will put on a show and make the vote close, but witnesses is too dicey for them. Like you, I will lose bowel control if they prove me wrong.

marmar

(77,081 posts)
17. Only because she knows it's not going to happen....
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:05 AM
Jan 2020

... voting yes makes her appear to be reasonable. She was, is and always will be a fraud.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
18. As scripted as a pro wrestling match
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:07 AM
Jan 2020

Collins' vote is meaningless. If she's "yes" on witnesses, testimony and evidence, it's because her vote doesn't matter one way or the other.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
20. She's got cover, so whatever
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:13 AM
Jan 2020

It's truly wild as fuck that the Republican "victory" is about NOT calling witnesses to explain what happened!

sprinkleeninow

(20,249 posts)
28. Instead of giving into a depressed state,
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:51 AM
Jan 2020

I have a feelin' in my bones it ain't gonna over till it's over...

I cannot readily explain.

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
29. I am shocked and dismayed at the cynicism on display here. Do we not believe in redemption?
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 01:05 AM
Jan 2020

Do we not believe it possible for the scales to fall from one's eyes?

For the light of right to illuminate the lost?



Nah, I'm just kidding. They've all got together and worked this out. She was told what to do by the GOP. They want to save her seat, and they already have the votes they need.

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
32. LOL
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 01:12 AM
Jan 2020

At a certain point you just have to give up on someone who continuously insults your intelligence over and over again with the same play while expecting you to believe it. The media isn't quite there yet, but I hope Mainers are.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,672 posts)
34. At least with KAV
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 02:07 AM
Jan 2020

we got a one week phony investigation wink wink !!!

The plan is still to steamroll the will of the voters, great job

Mission accomplished !!!

Ding dong, Dump is still impeached and he is guilty as sin. As soon as he is out in November, we should perp walk him in NYC, remember how nice the dems were to Nixon, we better not do that again.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
35. Collins is only voting yes because her vote won't matter either way,
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 02:26 AM
Jan 2020

and she can look like she at least tried to her voters. If her vote mattered for the outcome, she would have voted no.

They're all a bunch of fucking crooked, money grubbing scumbags.

Mike Nelson

(9,958 posts)
38. She will vote...
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 06:45 AM
Jan 2020

... for witnesses... then, she will vote to acquit Crooked Donald. She wants to look "fair and balanced" to her voters. I hope they see through the charade. She hopes he and she both win - and approve more Supreme Court Justices.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
42. Exactly. He let her know to save her ass, her vote was irrelevant.
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 11:23 AM
Jan 2020

The whole fucking thing makes me sick.

EleanorR

(2,393 posts)
40. I hope people aren't falling for this-it's purely show. No real deliberations have taken place
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 10:11 AM
Jan 2020

This show by collins is particularly egregious because it's meant to give people the impression senate republicans are reasonable and that there's a faction that's willing to buck trump, to lull people into believing that not all of them have gone full on authoritarian, when in fact they have done just that.

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