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****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/30/20 THREAD 7**** (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 OP
Q. Hoeven to House Managers - Sondland indicated stalement with aid would continue until BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #1
Schiff is now stepping through the timeline for the quid pro quo with Zelensky BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #2
Thank you, BumRushDaShow gademocrat7 Jan 2020 #5
Schiff: trump to Sondland "No quid pro quo" is a false exculpatory Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #3
Hmmmm, just took a look at Fauk News & Hannity is on ... this must be hurting Red Don's crime uponit7771 Jan 2020 #4
Q. Moran/Rubio/Crapo/Risch - To WH counsel - Impeachment is divisive - are there other means BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #6
+1, more lets not do cuz someones feeling could get hurt argument. It sounds desperate uponit7771 Jan 2020 #8
Forget that President Traitor Toddler on a Rampage is the clearest domestic danger crickets Jan 2020 #13
and he bdamomma Jan 2020 #24
Philbin... BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #7
+1, I think that's why they have him speaking the most and he lies a lot uponit7771 Jan 2020 #9
Time's up BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #10
This is bdamomma Jan 2020 #11
Q. Markey - To House Managers - Recently reported that Russians have hacked Burisma BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #12
Schiff - response - If this occurred, Dershowitz would say that this is fine! BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #14
Schiff: If this is not an impeachable offense, nothing is. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #15
Schiff keeps giving one homerun speech after another. nt crickets Jan 2020 #21
Q. Graham (et al) - to WH counsel -even if if Bolton testified to the allegations, it still wouldn't BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #16
oh oh bdamomma Jan 2020 #17
At least they asked that to both teams. Huh. Mersky Jan 2020 #18
a loaded question from lindsey etc, elleng Jan 2020 #19
Lindsey helps Phil-da-bin-wid-bull. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #23
yeah elleng Jan 2020 #33
"You're killing me, Smalls." crickets Jan 2020 #30
Philbin lies again. shock. surprise. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #20
Philbin - with the bullshit argument - "not a crime" BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #22
Adam Schiff being 'blunt!' elleng Jan 2020 #28
If it was legitimate government business... C_U_L8R Jan 2020 #29
Philbin is taking the Dershowitz defense on multiple intentions uponit7771 Jan 2020 #25
wtf Philbin. "not an impeachable offense under the law" -- House has sole power of impeachment! Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #26
And has already exercised it, yes. You noticed that too, huh? crickets Jan 2020 #34
It's nuts. Pure pettyfoggery. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #39
Q. Durbin - to House Managers - Please respond to previous question BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #27
Schiff: they claim if you accept everything House claims, it's still not impeachable Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #31
they continue bdamomma Jan 2020 #32
They believe 100% of it they're just going with the Nixon meme, this is what reThuglicans really uponit7771 Jan 2020 #37
President can abuse their power as much as they want as long as they think it is in the BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #35
He used "aghast" twice, and I think he's right. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #43
video of this response by Schiff needs to be separated out and circulated! Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #36
+1 crickets Jan 2020 #38
Coming up! Mersky Jan 2020 #45
Stupid assed question by Prick Scott and Rubio ... just really dumb people. uponit7771 Jan 2020 #40
Q. Loeffler (et al) - to WH Counsel - Biden Biden Biden BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #41
I left her a message today. I know it did no good, but I did it anyway. *sigh* nt crickets Jan 2020 #44
needs somebody saying, "Bolton, Bolton, Bolton" while Sucky speaks :) Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #46
Ugh, what a load Mersky Jan 2020 #42
Suckylow bdamomma Jan 2020 #47
Yep. They've gotten ruder as time goes on. nt crickets Jan 2020 #63
Suckylow needs to sit down. BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #48
Jeffries up for this one Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #49
Q. Bennett/Warner - Suckylow idnicated they would call a long list of witnesses if they were allowed BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #50
Too funny from Sekulow crickets Jan 2020 #52
Jeffries: WH turned over tens of thousands of docs in Benghazi; witnesses Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #51
Loved how he mentioned Hillary's 11 hour testimony. crickets Jan 2020 #55
trumPutin couldn't testify 11 minutes. he's too weak. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #67
Jeffries lays out the formal coverup of the Senate in contrast to what they got re Benghazi! ancianita Jan 2020 #56
Jeffries: every trial by Senate has had witnesses. average 33. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #53
Jeffries - Just want a full and fair trial. BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #54
Hakeem bdamomma Jan 2020 #59
+1 crickets Jan 2020 #60
Q. Romney - to House Managers - Any evidence someone was directed by Drumpf to tell Ukrainians BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #57
Schiff still up there fighting the good fight Takket Jan 2020 #58
Schiff - Sondland had informed them and Mulvaney indicated it too... BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #61
Schiff is turned and directly talking to Romney. underpants Jan 2020 #62
Purple bot is pitching to Romney as well underpants Jan 2020 #66
All he did was brought Zelinsky's brother over from Sicily... nolabear Jan 2020 #64
The evidence bdamomma Jan 2020 #65
Merkely/Schatz/Carper - Dershowitz claimed Pres cnnot be impeached if he thinks its in our BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #68
The president may never say his best interests in an election are in the public's interest. ancianita Jan 2020 #72
Schiff - finished his response from previous question BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #69
Schiff: "That's a prescription for a president with no constraint." Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #70
A prescription for never leaving the presidency, either, since his interests ARE the public's ancianita Jan 2020 #77
Yes -- it would be the installation of Mango Mussolini. Blanket permission to cheat! Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #87
Until somebody, some military, some god, stops him. Seriously. This is his claim to dictatorship. ancianita Jan 2020 #91
Q. Braun/Lee - Biden Biden Biden - is what Biden did, impeachable? BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #71
Seriously!? kag Jan 2020 #73
WTF did Joe Biden do (other than be VP as a Democrat) ? crickets Jan 2020 #74
drumpf's lawyer just said Joe Biden's actions are worthy of impeachment............ Takket Jan 2020 #76
I've been yelling too. BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #81
Biden Biden Biden bdamomma Jan 2020 #75
Q. Klobuchar (et al) - to House Mangers - Please respond to last question BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #78
Nadler response - analogy of a DA declaring they have their case BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #79
Nadler bdamomma Jan 2020 #80
Nadler comparing WH counsel's tactics to Three Card Monty. crickets Jan 2020 #82
ADJOURNED elleng Jan 2020 #83
***ADJOURNED UNTIL FRIDAY 1PM ET JAN. 31, 2020*** BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #84
Thank you for all of the threads, BumRushDaShow! crickets Jan 2020 #86
Thank you for helping with this!!! BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #90
Thank you, BRDS! Mersky Jan 2020 #89
And thank you for adding so much here!! BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #92
Still have some cleanup to do in here Mersky Jan 2020 #99
You've been doing great!!! BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #100
Daw, shucks, thanks Mersky Jan 2020 #105
Thank you so much! PatSeg Jan 2020 #106
I think Mr. Nadler was genuinely annoyed at all this distraction and deflection. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #85
MSNBC is saying there was some kind of power play going on BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #88
I'm skeptical of MSNBC on that. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #94
Well it was a unanimous sentiment - but mainly because for Impeachments BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #102
They've all done an excellent job under trying circumstances. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #104
Yeah, if you look back at it, Schiff was calling "Jerry, Jerry" as he went up. crickets Jan 2020 #96
I think it was a misunderstanding at most. Or a mis-hearing. C_U_L8R Jan 2020 #101
Good Night bdamomma Jan 2020 #93
Thanks all who hung in there following this!!! BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #95
Much appreciation BRDS !! C_U_L8R Jan 2020 #103
Thanks for hosting all the threads! blogslut Jan 2020 #97
Amen to that! Dem2theMax Jan 2020 #98
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #107
Thank for doing these threads MustLoveBeagles Jan 2020 #108
another sincere thank you for these threads Kali Jan 2020 #109

BumRushDaShow

(129,012 posts)
1. Q. Hoeven to House Managers - Sondland indicated stalement with aid would continue until
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:42 PM
Jan 2020

the investigations were announced. Isn't that the quid pro quo that the President denied occurred?

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
4. Hmmmm, just took a look at Fauk News & Hannity is on ... this must be hurting Red Don's crime
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:46 PM
Jan 2020

... crew.


If Red Don's team was doing good it Fauk News would be showing it

BumRushDaShow

(129,012 posts)
6. Q. Moran/Rubio/Crapo/Risch - To WH counsel - Impeachment is divisive - are there other means
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:48 PM
Jan 2020

that are less damaging to the nation like appropriations, oversight, etc.?

crickets

(25,980 posts)
13. Forget that President Traitor Toddler on a Rampage is the clearest domestic danger
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:56 PM
Jan 2020

to face this country in our lifetimes. Seriously? It's just silly to pretend otherwise.

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
11. This is
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:55 PM
Jan 2020

no ordinary administration these are thugs, period and a massive cover up. McConnell and many more need to be held accountable.

Not one person who was subpoena or asked to provide documents did not.

BumRushDaShow

(129,012 posts)
12. Q. Markey - To House Managers - Recently reported that Russians have hacked Burisma
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:55 PM
Jan 2020

looking for info on Biden and that they are intending to interfere in our 2020 election. What recourse is there if the President is acquitted, who has carried out a statutory crime based on the Dershowitz theory?

BumRushDaShow

(129,012 posts)
14. Schiff - response - If this occurred, Dershowitz would say that this is fine!
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:57 PM
Jan 2020

President - I am beyond the reach of the law. Barr says I can't be prosecuted and can't be impeached.

BumRushDaShow

(129,012 posts)
16. Q. Graham (et al) - to WH counsel -even if if Bolton testified to the allegations, it still wouldn't
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:59 PM
Jan 2020

rise to an impeachable offense?

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
17. oh oh
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:59 PM
Jan 2020

Lindsey's question.

Very bad but predictable.

Boy, Philbin's lies.


Get Bolton to be a witness please.

Mersky

(4,981 posts)
18. At least they asked that to both teams. Huh.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:00 PM
Jan 2020

Eta - Meh, no they didn’t ask - I read the lower chyron, instead of the question blurb on the side. Oops.

crickets

(25,980 posts)
30. "You're killing me, Smalls."
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:06 PM
Jan 2020

Lindsey is forgetting that impeachment is in the rear view mirror. We're talking indictment and removal here.

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
29. If it was legitimate government business...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:06 PM
Jan 2020

Why did they run it like a criminal operation with personal atty Rudy and his gang of mercenary thugs? The Trump defense is so full of shit.

crickets

(25,980 posts)
34. And has already exercised it, yes. You noticed that too, huh?
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:08 PM
Jan 2020

They really want to make it all go away.

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
32. they continue
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:06 PM
Jan 2020

not to believe in facts or the truth or the evidence that was presented.

They do not care about founders or the Constitution. Sickening.


uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
37. They believe 100% of it they're just going with the Nixon meme, this is what reThuglicans really
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:09 PM
Jan 2020

... want out of America; kings and not a liberally democratic elected republic

They've shown little want for plurality

BumRushDaShow

(129,012 posts)
35. President can abuse their power as much as they want as long as they think it is in the
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:08 PM
Jan 2020

national interest.

The founders would be aghast after more than 2 centuries...

BumRushDaShow

(129,012 posts)
50. Q. Bennett/Warner - Suckylow idnicated they would call a long list of witnesses if they were allowed
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:16 PM
Jan 2020

and extend the trial. What is the past practice of witnesses who have not testified in the House?

crickets

(25,980 posts)
52. Too funny from Sekulow
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:20 PM
Jan 2020

We don't want witnesses - it will take too long! But if you get to call any, we will call as maaaaaany as we can!

crickets

(25,980 posts)
55. Loved how he mentioned Hillary's 11 hour testimony.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:22 PM
Jan 2020

Poor Jeffries. He looks fried from exhaustion and it still doing a great job.

ancianita

(36,056 posts)
56. Jeffries lays out the formal coverup of the Senate in contrast to what they got re Benghazi!
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:22 PM
Jan 2020

Go Hakeem!!

BumRushDaShow

(129,012 posts)
54. Jeffries - Just want a full and fair trial.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:20 PM
Jan 2020

This has happened for 15 other impeachments - all of heard witnesses. Including those who did not testify in the House but testified in the Senate.

And re: Trey Gowdy claimed the WH didn't cooperate. But they turned over 10s of thousands of documents and witnesses appeared including Petraus, Rice, Mike Mullen, Panetta, Flynn, Clinton - testified for 11 hours. etc.

But here - no documents, no witnesses, no cooperation, no reasonable accommodation, blanket defiance.

Cannot normalize lawfulness, corruption, abuse of power.

BumRushDaShow

(129,012 posts)
57. Q. Romney - to House Managers - Any evidence someone was directed by Drumpf to tell Ukrainians
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:22 PM
Jan 2020

was conditioned to investigation of Bidens.

Takket

(21,568 posts)
58. Schiff still up there fighting the good fight
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:22 PM
Jan 2020

someone get my boy a glass of water lol how does he do it???????

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
65. The evidence
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:27 PM
Jan 2020

is all there, these lawyers must be blind and give no heed to the evidence that was presented.

BumRushDaShow

(129,012 posts)
68. Merkely/Schatz/Carper - Dershowitz claimed Pres cnnot be impeached if he thinks its in our
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:31 PM
Jan 2020

public interest and it has been argument that he can do anything he wants per Article II.

Isn't this what the framers warned about?

ancianita

(36,056 posts)
72. The president may never say his best interests in an election are in the public's interest.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:34 PM
Jan 2020

The American public's best interests are never to be decided by the president, but by the American public.

Through the First Branch, The People's House.

Through an honest, fair trial in the Senate.

Through an honest 2020 election.

Yes. We. Can. Forever.

Case closed.

BumRushDaShow

(129,012 posts)
69. Schiff - finished his response from previous question
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:32 PM
Jan 2020

And yes - Drumpf is acting as an imperial President - and there is nothing that Congress can do about it.

ancianita

(36,056 posts)
77. A prescription for never leaving the presidency, either, since his interests ARE the public's
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:37 PM
Jan 2020

best interests.

kag

(4,079 posts)
73. Seriously!?
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:35 PM
Jan 2020

Should we have impeached Joe Biden for that thing we didn't even notice back when he did it?

crickets

(25,980 posts)
74. WTF did Joe Biden do (other than be VP as a Democrat) ?
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:35 PM
Jan 2020

sorry nvm, he got Shokin fired, as requested by his boss and half of Europe. I'm getting punchy.

Takket

(21,568 posts)
76. drumpf's lawyer just said Joe Biden's actions are worthy of impeachment............
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:36 PM
Jan 2020

I............... I can't even believe these people................. because it was done purely for "financial gain"

THIS LAWYER REPS A CLIENT WHO LITERALLY DIVERTS AIR FORCE PLANES TO SCOTLAND SO THE CREWS CAN PAY TO STAY AT HIS RESORT

FUCK THESE PEOPLE

YES, I AM YELLING, I AM PISSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BumRushDaShow

(129,012 posts)
78. Q. Klobuchar (et al) - to House Mangers - Please respond to last question
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:38 PM
Jan 2020

(issue with getting the question card to Chief Justice)

BumRushDaShow

(129,012 posts)
79. Nadler response - analogy of a DA declaring they have their case
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:40 PM
Jan 2020

and another witness appears and they are refused.

3 card monty is being played by President - distraction

Mersky

(4,981 posts)
99. Still have some cleanup to do in here
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:51 PM
Jan 2020

But CSPAN has become obstinate in the past hour - I’ll add clips to this thread, soon.

I’ll keep on adding as I can, but gosh, there’s no keeping up with you! Is freakin’ awesome.

BumRushDaShow

(129,012 posts)
100. You've been doing great!!!
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:57 PM
Jan 2020

(I'm also on MIRT and doing that too )

The help has been much appreciated!!

BumRushDaShow

(129,012 posts)
88. MSNBC is saying there was some kind of power play going on
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:44 PM
Jan 2020

about who would do the closing and Nadler overrode and took it rather than Schiff.

BumRushDaShow

(129,012 posts)
102. Well it was a unanimous sentiment - but mainly because for Impeachments
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:00 AM
Jan 2020

traditionally the Judiciary Committee is the lead and that is Nadler. But as we know, Nadler has been dealing with his wife's illness so it worked out that Schiff could do that "lead" part - and with the other Managers who were amazing in their own right, they put on an amazing presentation, with Nadler doing the final remarks on behalf of the Judiciary Commitee.

crickets

(25,980 posts)
96. Yeah, if you look back at it, Schiff was calling "Jerry, Jerry" as he went up.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:47 PM
Jan 2020

Given how many amazing speeches Shiff gave today, Nadler was just fine. Good for him. That was odd, though.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

MustLoveBeagles

(11,611 posts)
108. Thank for doing these threads
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:10 AM
Jan 2020

I can't bear to watch it. I have a low tolerance for BS. I come here to read people's comments instead.

Kali

(55,008 posts)
109. another sincere thank you for these threads
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 01:10 AM
Jan 2020

I was intermittent in the car radio since the dinner break and had a meeting until just about the last 3 or 4 questions, so rather than watch recordings with a lot of repeat of what I caught in the car the last 3 threads caught me up pretty good. MUCH GRASS!!

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