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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/30/20 THREAD 6****
Thread 1 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212928625
Thread 2 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212929057
Thread 3 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212929614
Thread 4 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212930044
Thread 5 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212930587
BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)underpants
(182,812 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)(re: witnesses)
Clarifying Cippy's bullshit about requiring the entire Senate for depositions.
If a President can tie up subpoenas and deign what subpoenas were "valid" then the oversight will be eliminated. Imagine what that would do to the balance of power.
crickets
(25,980 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)for acting on acting contrary to the advice of his advisors?
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)crickets
(25,980 posts)Is it just me or is WH counsel getting really snippy?
BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)underpants
(182,812 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)underpants
(182,812 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)slow down and allow time for witnesses?
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)crickets
(25,980 posts)Oh, it would take too much time to wait for that!
This was the same issue the WH counsel didn't recognize when House managers pointed it out earlier, when WH was complaining that certain witnesses/paperwork were absent.
Quoting Judge Jackson's decision that the Executive cannot decide its own immunity.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a29991537/don-mcgahn-testify-impeachment-hearings-federal-judge-ruling/
Love how Schiff point out they have a SCJ present to rule if necessary...
BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)underpants
(182,812 posts)Pound sand Philbin.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)crickets
(25,980 posts)Sorry, reflex.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)Mersky
(4,982 posts)They controlled both houses! And yet heres their old CT topics being spun up, again.
Smh
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)Mersky
(4,982 posts)Is a good one.
underpants
(182,812 posts)Massaging his ego.
BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)and the final report said the administration did not cooperate. Does Drumpf require more compliance than other Presidents?
crickets
(25,980 posts)WH has produced not one document requested, not one witness other than those who defied orders and testified anyway.
BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)underpants
(182,812 posts)Posted below.
nolabear
(41,963 posts)And is he having a little stroke?
BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)along with other nonsense.
backtoblue
(11,343 posts)Just WOW.
underpants
(182,812 posts)Nice. Seems either tired or amped and about to run out of gas.
nolabear
(41,963 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)underpants
(182,812 posts)It all pivots on Alexander
BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)and Turtle put it in his lap and didn't look at it...
BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)and if acquitted, what is the national security risk if that behavior continues unchecked?
underpants
(182,812 posts)crickets
(25,980 posts)PatSeg
(47,465 posts)Constitution looks a bit drunk!!!
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)PatSeg
(47,465 posts)I never realized he looked drunk! Perfect timing.
Mersky
(4,982 posts)Has been clipped for the time being. Will do what I can with cell signal.
Mersky
(4,982 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)Mersky
(4,982 posts)Router was stubborn and slow to come back up. Thought I had a bigger problem when I posted about the drop.
BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)then doesn't that contradict the need for witnesses?
bdamomma
(63,850 posts)need witnesses.
This guy Philbin is a jerk.
You cannot have a proper trial without witnesses.
Philbin is getting testy.
BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)(The DOJ is part of the Executive Branch and reports to the President and is arguing the opposite of the WH lawyers)
BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)(despite the denial in the statement that this is what they were doing )
BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)Yovanovich - to "take her out".
bdamomma
(63,850 posts)About Marie Yanovitch "about taking her out" from Blumenthal.
BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)into the Bidens.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)They claim there's no time for witnesses, yet ask why the House didn't take alternate measures that take years to complete.
It's disingenuous at best -- they just want it over and covered.
crickets
(25,980 posts)Schiff is going through a long, long list of National Security staff who have testified in hearings in the past. Shows bad faith to claim the House should go to court to compel witnesses, but then it takes too much time to go to court to compel witnesses.
BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)underpants
(182,812 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)crickets
(25,980 posts)eta Rachel is talking about it now. Sen Alexander is going to announce his vote tonight, apparently.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)underpants
(182,812 posts)Murkowski, it would are sense, will follow. But maybe not.
underpants
(182,813 posts)bdamomma
(63,850 posts)Moscow Mitch is pissed off because he is not going to get his way.
I hope Lamar tells him to go to hell.
Please we got to have witnesses.
crickets
(25,980 posts)Somebody needs to say no to Mitch sometime. Now is a good time.
spanone
(135,838 posts)Lamar could cement his legacy as a true centrist in this era where they don't exist
bdamomma
(63,850 posts)deals with them
If I was retiring I would say I'm going with the country.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)underpants
(182,813 posts)Well done
underpants
(182,813 posts)Philbin. Yea I will create a speakers future.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)Dem2theMax
(9,651 posts)I can't watch it live. I will end up with bleeding ulcers. But I can follow, through all of you who are posting here. Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)of more evidence.
Philbin now describing that there may have been problems with whistleblower process.
crickets
(25,980 posts)that they don't have and haven't seen, but you know... *wink*
Odious turd.
avebury
(10,952 posts)He is coming across to the people as trying to bend over backwards to appear reasonable which makes the Defense team look totally unreasonable and afraid.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)House record. Should the House attempted to do a resolution to complete the record and what is the impact for the future.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)WH letter that indicated that the WH would not cooperate, then it has been months of requests and court cases.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)Mersky
(4,982 posts)Mentioned that the wording, sole power is only used twice in the Constitution - one for the House to impeach, and another for the Senate to try the case.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)crickets
(25,980 posts)in any court in America."
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)committee with the whistleblower and how many times have there been contact since that first day of contact?
IcyPeas
(21,872 posts)Link to tweet
crickets
(25,980 posts)eta wait, this isn't even Lamar Alexander. Whoops.
Darn, I read it too fast and got my hopes up.
Still, it's good to hear someone speaking out.
IcyPeas
(21,872 posts)PatSeg
(47,465 posts)It is so frustrating.
Mersky
(4,982 posts)Ill add another, YAY!!!
elleng
(130,916 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,036 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)Mossfern
(2,511 posts)that the Senate will vote no witnesses, no documents and go on to vote to acquit.
Better to be pleasantly surprised than bitterly disappointed.