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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/30/20 THREAD 5****
Thread 1 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212928625
Thread 2 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212929057
Thread 3 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212929614
Thread 4 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212930044
BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)Schiff discussing their proposal... Trust the Chief Justice to make a fair judgement of materiality of a witness.
underpants
(182,818 posts)Deference to him over the Warren slight earlier today.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)gademocrat7
(10,658 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)underpants
(182,818 posts)After the questions are over.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)underpants
(182,818 posts)If she doesn't go with him it could be a tie.
Mersky
(4,982 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)The Prosecutor was corrupt. The sham was that Biden followed U.S. policy and European countries.
This is all Russian intelligence propaganda.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)Mersky
(4,982 posts)Schiff telling them what is on the line when senators feed into the Burisma CT smears.
Turbineguy
(37,332 posts)Russia's biggest intel operation ever.
The Republicans are trying to save it.
Mersky
(4,982 posts)crickets
(25,980 posts)Mersky
(4,982 posts)Schiff is so good like that!
BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)Bolton and Barr - the President as asked for personal favors - e.g., Trump Towers Istanbul. Plus issues with the Turkish State Bank.
Mersky
(4,982 posts)pResidents counsel has argued that the pResidents actions are based on his desire to root out corruption. However, new reporting indicates that barr and former national security adviser Bolton, shared concerns that the pResident was granting personal favors to autocratic leaders like the pResident of Turkey. The pResident has also acknowledged his private business interest in the country like tRump towers in Istanbul. The treasury dept has not denied that the pResident directed Treasury and DOJ to intervene in the criminal investigation of the Turkish state owned bank, which has been accused of a scheme to evade Iranian sanctions. Has the pResident engaged in a pattern of conduct which he places his personal and political interests above the national security interest of the United States?
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Taken from CSPAN transcript here: (will post when video link is available from 06:47:40)
BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)but it was also putting that whole thing into the Congressional record!!!!
Mersky
(4,982 posts)https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-11/u-s-inquiry-into-turkish-bank-inflamed-erdogan-then-went-quiet
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Lol, now I understand the political cartoon from today depicting tRump as turkey - wasnt just leftover from Thanksgiving.
crickets
(25,980 posts)Mersky
(4,982 posts)LEW
(1,072 posts)what time does the questioning end tonight?
BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)and they have had about 1.5 hours or so of a break so far. From 1pm ET + 8hrs (no break) would be 9 pm ET so figure maybe by 10 pm ET? (as I understand there were a set amount of questions initially so they had less to go through today than yesterday)
LEW
(1,072 posts)underpants
(182,818 posts)From when the started after the dinner break.
CNN says Lamar Alexander (R-TN) will announce his decision on witnesses after the questions. He had dinner with Murkowski.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)of regarding Ukraine until this year...
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)and local PBS just interrupted for Judy Woodruff's face time
underpants
(182,818 posts)We know what we are listening to.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)underpants
(182,818 posts)I have this set as a station I know what the hell it is.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Oy.
BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)And when Kupperman was subpoenaed, he immediately filed suit. Did not want to go through a years-long process.
Offered that they could have piggybacked on McGahn case and they said no.
underpants
(182,818 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)including when you have a President trying to bully and threaten impeachment witnesses?
BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)intelligence whistleblowers. The former can go public and have a press conference where the latter - the intelligence ones - cannot go public.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)going to foreign countries?
underpants
(182,818 posts)Romney - seems + witnesses
Collins -......well... you know I'm concerned. Not counting on her
Alexander - announcing on witnesses when the questions are done
Murkowski
Here's the key. MANCHIN. He can save himself with a NO on witnesses. Don't be surprised if he kills it regardless of the Republicans.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)Mersky
(4,982 posts)Thanks for posting!
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)underpants
(182,818 posts)I thank my Uncle for some of this. That's all I can say.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)(ignoring that Dershowitz and Graham completely CHANGED their "standards" from Clinton to Drumpf)
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)crickets
(25,980 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)from Israel if the PM didn't come to the U.S. to charge the President's rival with anti-semitism?
underpants
(182,818 posts)H2O Man
(73,553 posts)MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)underpants
(182,818 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)H2O Man
(73,553 posts)(Sorry, just talking to myself about wishing Roberts would jump down and slap Philbin.)
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)H2O Man
(73,553 posts)pne of two things has happen: Philbin has been replaced by a robot, or has died, his corpse freeze-dried, and a tape recorder placed in his mouth.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)H2O Man
(73,553 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)underpants
(182,818 posts)MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)As outstandingly awful as he has been throughout this session,
his whole face should be on an infinite loop of
PatSeg
(47,468 posts)one who noticed his red nose!
BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)Why can't Bolton be called in as a witness?
underpants
(182,818 posts)underpants
(182,818 posts)His face is getting redder.
BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)since I think it was the D's turn for questioning.
(I think she was sortof with Collins to possibly call for witnesses)
underpants
(182,818 posts)Mossfern
(2,511 posts)"We won't call them because they didn't."
He is so disingenuous, it's amazing.
BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)autocratic leader and that not being impeachable.
BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)Wasn't our party - it was the President who denied access to witnesses/docs.
crickets
(25,980 posts)He insulted Schiff and is starting to get openly nasty, not just condescending. Also noticing the red face. Hmm.
MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)Rut roh.
Does somebody on the repuke side already know
there's enough votes FOR having witnesses???
Maybe Alexander and Murkowski gave a tell.
Let this be more than my desperate wishful thinking.
crickets
(25,980 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)his interest in Burisma for his removal... <insert CT>
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)crickets
(25,980 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)underpants
(182,818 posts)That's where all this Biden nonsense comes from. Turtle is in it too.
BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)and legislative?
BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)So not an answer. <talking points talking points>
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)Mersky
(4,982 posts)Acquit his client.
Bleh. Hes just terrible.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)crickets
(25,980 posts)Trump can ignore his advisors all he likes. He was not impeached for that, he was impeached for breaking the law. Notes pattern of misconduct also present in Mueller report.
elleng
(130,918 posts)Mossfern
(2,511 posts)and then argues another.
Both sides.
C_U_L8R
(45,002 posts)There seems to be something pathologically disturbing about this guy. Does he live in Bates Motel?