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kpete

(72,013 posts)
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:06 AM Jan 2020

LOL: They were betting Trump had all this nailed down better.

Last edited Mon Jan 27, 2020, 12:40 PM - Edit history (1)

Understand why this is important: GOP Senators (and even House) have staked their careers on a defense story that the White House encouraged. Now they look like they were part of the cover up.


@maggieNYT
Per sources, some GOP senators privately pushing White House for information on who at administration had visibility into the manuscript over the last month. Senators feel blindsided.






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LOL: They were betting Trump had all this nailed down better. (Original Post) kpete Jan 2020 OP
Yep! Ohioboy Jan 2020 #1
Trump & McConnell to the GOP Congress Critters: TheBlackAdder Jan 2020 #18
+1 Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2020 #23
Lol...perfect analogy Docreed2003 Jan 2020 #26
🔥Burn the traitors🔥 we can do it Jan 2020 #2
Oh, but they were blindsided. Nobody could have know this WH lied to them. ffr Jan 2020 #9
👍👍 griloco Jan 2020 #42
+100000000 MontanaMama Jan 2020 #50
THIS !!!! uponit7771 Jan 2020 #75
They chose..... lastlib Jan 2020 #82
Yes, but what does the picture of Kellyanne have to do with it? NBachers Jan 2020 #83
Okay, I'm busted.......... lastlib Jan 2020 #84
They were blindsided, also shocked there is gambling in Casablanca. TeamPooka Jan 2020 #91
Betting on Trump? That's just idiocy. C_U_L8R Jan 2020 #3
Wait - Senators feel blindsided?!! Well, that certainly confirms where their heads have been... flor-de-jasmim Jan 2020 #4
"But You Are, Blanche, You ARE in that chair!" NCLefty Jan 2020 #5
I think Trump lawyers are putting themselves in line mainstreetonce Jan 2020 #6
Not sure if lying to Congress is technically "perjury," but... Wounded Bear Jan 2020 #28
Yes. 18 USC 1001 jberryhill Jan 2020 #37
They Could be Charged with Lying to Congress. Scruffy1 Jan 2020 #38
My theory: russians hacked the RNC and they got the goods on every senator mucifer Jan 2020 #7
Exactly! This is the reason why no GOP incumbent deserves to be re-elected FakeNoose Jan 2020 #48
Exactly. volstork Jan 2020 #49
and it is why we can't count on the Integrity of the election. SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2020 #55
and yet many here get furious if I say we can't depend on election security to rid us of Trump nt Grasswire2 Jan 2020 #65
Yep...been saying that for years now. /nt sdfernando Jan 2020 #57
Me too...been saying this for years - it is obvious. N/T Fix The Stupid Jan 2020 #58
+1, save rMoney uponit7771 Jan 2020 #76
Now they "look like" they were part of the cover-up? Mr. Ected Jan 2020 #8
Yup. nt crickets Jan 2020 #13
I do Not believe they were blindsided Farmer-Rick Jan 2020 #10
But.... the evidence has already come out, over and over. DemocracyMouse Jan 2020 #44
Yeah, that's true Farmer-Rick Jan 2020 #47
IMO They cannot claim they were blindsided. LiberalFighter Jan 2020 #11
They knew the truth regardless. And they voted repeatedly to cover their eyes and ears. nt coti Jan 2020 #46
By saying "Trump had all this nailed down better" you meant his Obstruction of Congress? usaf-vet Jan 2020 #12
Double Jeopardy bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #22
that's a beautiful link NJCher Jan 2020 #24
That link is the best link in the history of links. MontanaMama Jan 2020 #52
You can bid for a copy of the Articles of Impeachment that Traitor Tot accidentally autographed. OMGWTF Jan 2020 #66
That is exactly what happened and is happening. marble falls Jan 2020 #14
EVERYTHING tRump touches... B Stieg Jan 2020 #15
Someone in the WH is no doubt working against Benedict Donald uponit7771 Jan 2020 #16
Would not surprise me if some one from the Intel community leaked it... Wounded Bear Jan 2020 #29
They are part of the cover up Moral Compass Jan 2020 #17
GOP Senators were like the three wise monkeys FakeNoose Jan 2020 #68
I hope that egg was hot and scrambled to cover his entire face yellowdogintexas Jan 2020 #69
Oh, yessssss, GOP Senators, we wouldn't want anyone to hide evidence, would we? bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #19
"these GOP53 are the lyingest sacks of shit..." liberalla Jan 2020 #63
lol bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #64
If they "thought" that the orange buffoon had this "nailed down" Ferrets are Cool Jan 2020 #20
The only thing the McConnell senate has done NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #25
Yup Ferrets are Cool Jan 2020 #27
Well they did also fund the government... Wounded Bear Jan 2020 #30
They gave a huge tax giveaway to the filthy rich Farmer-Rick Jan 2020 #51
Trump and his Trumpistas do not care who they take down with themselves. BadGimp Jan 2020 #21
Yep, we're approaching 'Hitler in the Bunker' time... Wounded Bear Jan 2020 #31
Said at very beginning gibraltar72 Jan 2020 #32
...Like the rats in the slowly heating pot.... Toorich Jan 2020 #33
The only thing trump has nailed down denem Jan 2020 #34
I'd say that the Senate was willfully blindsided. Joe Nation Jan 2020 #35
It may turn out that Republican Senators were the most "conned" by the orange one mnhtnbb Jan 2020 #36
I doubt that. Scruffy1 Jan 2020 #40
Only an Ignoramus would believe anything said by the NoMoreRepugs Jan 2020 #39
Rubes are easy marks Dukkha Jan 2020 #41
NSC has said: SayItLoud Jan 2020 #43
As Schiff eloquently stated, EVERYONE knows trump is guilty. ecstatic Jan 2020 #45
One would think they'd have it figured out by now. sarge43 Jan 2020 #53
When dealing with the Orange Anus, Wellstone ruled Jan 2020 #54
Blindsided? They're that dumb? What else would you expect with Don the Con & his 15K lies? catrose Jan 2020 #56
trump has republicans walking right into a trap, because if they don't convict duforsure Jan 2020 #59
so tRump*s Congressional ENABLERS and ACCOMPLICES... Raster Jan 2020 #60
One of the forces in play since the House impeached the traitor Enoki33 Jan 2020 #61
They are part of the cover up. UCmeNdc Jan 2020 #62
Mitch! Trump is landing the plane! bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #67
"Senators feel blindsided." pangaia Jan 2020 #70
It's very easy to be blindsided when you have your eyes closed. patphil Jan 2020 #71
"Blindsided" my ass -- everything Bolton is saying was said before by other witnesses, paulkienitz Jan 2020 #72
Or maybe they aren't worried because Putin's got their backs in 2020. C Moon Jan 2020 #73
This is starting to look like Nixon where Nixon asserted A & republicans found out it wasn't true .. uponit7771 Jan 2020 #74
What idiots. They're bigger chumps than anyone's imagined. C_U_L8R Jan 2020 #77
Idiots Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2020 #78
Imagine how fucking stupid you have to be in your corruption to build your plan upon RockRaven Jan 2020 #79
they were betting that Trump the tweeting fool had this all nailed down better Skittles Jan 2020 #80
Great tweet thread at the link! Nitram Jan 2020 #81
BS The GOP Senators knew. I bet you they're lying their butts off rockfordfile Jan 2020 #85
K&R! n/t PandoraAwakened Jan 2020 #86
Couple charged With burglary struggle4progress Jan 2020 #87
Everyday tRump has fewer friends and no hope of gaining more. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2020 #88
They knew it was a clusterfuck, meadowlander Jan 2020 #89
Incompetence is their BRAND GETPLANING Jan 2020 #90

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
18. Trump & McConnell to the GOP Congress Critters:
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:55 AM
Jan 2020

.

Trump to GOP -- You fucked up! You trusted us!



McConnell to GOP



McConnell to GOP


.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
9. Oh, but they were blindsided. Nobody could have know this WH lied to them.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:44 AM
Jan 2020

My hair is on fire, this WH lied!!?? No. Never!

Now I'm blindsided.








lastlib

(23,275 posts)
82. They chose.....
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 06:26 PM
Jan 2020


My statement when the House Judiciary impeachment hearings began--Republicans can choose to be on the right side of infamy, or they can be buried by it.



Apparently they have chosen to be buried by it. They chose....poorly!

Wounded Bear

(58,703 posts)
28. Not sure if lying to Congress is technically "perjury," but...
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:15 AM
Jan 2020

they should at least face some honest voters, assuming we can find some in red states.

Both my Senators are Dems.

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
38. They Could be Charged with Lying to Congress.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:50 AM
Jan 2020

It's illegal to knowingly lie to congress. This is true whether you are under oath or not. Of course this won't hapen, but they could be disbarred because nearly all bar associations include lying to legislative bodies unethical.

mucifer

(23,561 posts)
7. My theory: russians hacked the RNC and they got the goods on every senator
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:32 AM
Jan 2020

So no matter what the evidence is, nothing will change. Every effing one of them will vote to acquit and hope for the best.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,138 posts)
55. and it is why we can't count on the Integrity of the election.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 12:39 PM
Jan 2020

Last edited Mon Jan 27, 2020, 06:12 PM - Edit history (1)

I think they know that as well. They are beyond being traitors.

Farmer-Rick

(10,206 posts)
10. I do Not believe they were blindsided
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:45 AM
Jan 2020

They knew but they hoped Dumpy Trumpy had coverred up most of the evidence. Now they know the evidence is coming out. Are they willing to go along with Dumpy?

I think they want to but they are worried it will look bad.

LiberalFighter

(51,062 posts)
11. IMO They cannot claim they were blindsided.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:49 AM
Jan 2020

They had a responsibility as Senators to find out what was happening. To be in the loop.

usaf-vet

(6,205 posts)
12. By saying "Trump had all this nailed down better" you meant his Obstruction of Congress?
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:49 AM
Jan 2020

That would be the same Obstruction of Congress which is Article II of his Impeachment?

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019/12/politics/impeachment-articles-annotated/

bucolic_frolic

(43,264 posts)
22. Double Jeopardy
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:10 AM
Jan 2020

"You think they'll find out before ... the election? Hate to throw my Senate career away for a loser."

"No worry, Mate. Trump has got this."



NJCher

(35,721 posts)
24. that's a beautiful link
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:11 AM
Jan 2020

If you haven't been there, your heart will sing with joy as you scroll down and the key parts are highlighted.

This makes me so happy.

OMGWTF

(3,972 posts)
66. You can bid for a copy of the Articles of Impeachment that Traitor Tot accidentally autographed.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 02:04 PM
Jan 2020
https://www.tmz.com/2020/01/14/trump-autographed-signed-articles-of-impeachment-auction/

Notice how TT's signature looks like a KKK rally. Melanie's does too. Weird.

Wounded Bear

(58,703 posts)
29. Would not surprise me if some one from the Intel community leaked it...
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:17 AM
Jan 2020

Trump's been riding them for 4 years. A little payback would be fitting.

Moral Compass

(1,525 posts)
17. They are part of the cover up
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:55 AM
Jan 2020

One of my senators, The Dishonorable John Cornyn, is quoted as having said the impeachment is “insane” in the Dallas Morning News (I will admit to not having read the piece).

Cornyn must be spending some time this morning working on getting the egg off his face.

Of course, they’ll circle the wagons ever more tightly and refuse to listen.

FakeNoose

(32,737 posts)
68. GOP Senators were like the three wise monkeys
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 02:13 PM
Jan 2020


... except now they can't do it anymore! It's right in their faces this morning.


bucolic_frolic

(43,264 posts)
19. Oh, yessssss, GOP Senators, we wouldn't want anyone to hide evidence, would we?
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:02 AM
Jan 2020

Please, these GOP53 are the lyingest sacks of shit to ever run for office

and poster children for anti-democratic movements because voters elected these shitheads!

liberalla

(9,257 posts)
63. "these GOP53 are the lyingest sacks of shit..."
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 01:42 PM
Jan 2020

GOP53 needs to become a thing! Memed and hashtagged!

Those 53 gop senators need to be named and shamed.

Thanks to bucolic_frolic!

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
25. The only thing the McConnell senate has done
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:11 AM
Jan 2020

is approve judges - they've basically done nothing else over the past year.

Wounded Bear

(58,703 posts)
30. Well they did also fund the government...
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:19 AM
Jan 2020


But shit, that's the most basic part of their fucking job. There's still the several hundred bills that the House sent them gathering dust.

Farmer-Rick

(10,206 posts)
51. They gave a huge tax giveaway to the filthy rich
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 12:23 PM
Jan 2020

They drilled holes in Obama care and increased the cost of medical care for the military.

And they increased the budget deficit to huge amounts never before seen in the history of our country.

BadGimp

(4,017 posts)
21. Trump and his Trumpistas do not care who they take down with themselves.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:10 AM
Jan 2020

None of that matters to them.

Wait till the details come out and they find out how badly they've been Conned.

But they will still vote to acquit imo.

Wounded Bear

(58,703 posts)
31. Yep, we're approaching 'Hitler in the Bunker' time...
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:21 AM
Jan 2020

gonna get ugly, I think.

This is why Speaker Pelosi and House leaders were reluctant to impeach. But we're in the shit now, the only way out is through.

gibraltar72

(7,510 posts)
32. Said at very beginning
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:30 AM
Jan 2020

They don't even know what they are signing onto. Republicans bought a pig in a poke. It ain't gonna get better only worse.

Toorich

(391 posts)
33. ...Like the rats in the slowly heating pot....
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:30 AM
Jan 2020

.... the repuglikan senators either don't know or don't care
that they are going to be boiled alive.

mnhtnbb

(31,402 posts)
36. It may turn out that Republican Senators were the most "conned" by the orange one
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:46 AM
Jan 2020

Don't these people get that a pathological liar will lie about anything and EVERYTHING?

Or are they really so stupid that they believed he hasn't been lying about EVERYTHING?

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
40. I doubt that.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:59 AM
Jan 2020

IMHO it's all about the upcoming election. They know if they lose the voters who support dear leader they are toast. I think a lot of these voters would not show up for the election if he had no chance or wasn't the nominee. Boltons revelations won't really change anything in the Senate and his supporters don't care about facts.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,456 posts)
39. Only an Ignoramus would believe anything said by the
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:58 AM
Jan 2020

Orange Menace, errr, I mean each and every Rethuglican Senator.

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
43. NSC has said:
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 12:07 PM
Jan 2020

No one at the WH/Oral Office has seen the manuscript. Never said that they saw excerpts, or notes from NSC to WH. By the way...who's part of the NSC? All the #Dotards flunkies.

ecstatic

(32,729 posts)
45. As Schiff eloquently stated, EVERYONE knows trump is guilty.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 12:13 PM
Jan 2020

Everyone! So why would "senators feel blindsided?" Did they really think trump had the ability to silence every single person with knowledge of the drug deal?

It really is time for most of the GOP senators to retire. Clearly, they are too senile and /or corrupt to have so much power.

sarge43

(28,943 posts)
53. One would think they'd have it figured out by now.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 12:35 PM
Jan 2020

Moron can't pour pee out of a boot even with the instructions on the heel.

If there's a pile of poo in the time/space contin, Moron will find it and step in it.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
54. When dealing with the Orange Anus,
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 12:37 PM
Jan 2020

appears one has to be on guard for a major bent over the table move.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
59. trump has republicans walking right into a trap, because if they don't convict
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 12:44 PM
Jan 2020

Every day until the election more worse stuff will be getting exposed, and on their crimes also. The longer he's allowed to remain in office the more republicans will lose their elections, and their conspiring with trump will put them in legal jeopardy too.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
61. One of the forces in play since the House impeached the traitor
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 12:57 PM
Jan 2020

has been the exposure of additional damning evidence that shames the entire GOP. Bolton is the latest to condemn, and over the next few months more will surely follow. I suspect this is what really worries their fear of losing their stranglehold on power - what else is the traitor hiding, and how damaging will it be to them? They are walking up a dark blind alley.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
70. "Senators feel blindsided."
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 03:26 PM
Jan 2020

Are you freakin kidding me!!!!!


What's worse... traitors, or just plain stupid?

Well, both!

patphil

(6,206 posts)
71. It's very easy to be blindsided when you have your eyes closed.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 03:40 PM
Jan 2020

Worst case of wilful blindness I've ever seen.
Add that to their wilful deafness and you can also call them wilfully ignorant.
The sum total is deliberate, wilful stupidity.

Stupid traitors!

Patrick Phillips



paulkienitz

(1,296 posts)
72. "Blindsided" my ass -- everything Bolton is saying was said before by other witnesses,
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 03:48 PM
Jan 2020

and there were plenty of public hints that Bolton would corroborate it. The only blindness here was entirely self-inflicted and they have no one to blame for it.

uponit7771

(90,359 posts)
74. This is starting to look like Nixon where Nixon asserted A & republicans found out it wasn't true ..
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:15 PM
Jan 2020

... then effectively told Nixon they weren't supporting him

C_U_L8R

(45,020 posts)
77. What idiots. They're bigger chumps than anyone's imagined.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:17 PM
Jan 2020

Proof that Fox News rots your brrrrraaaaaaaaiiiiinnnzzzzzz

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,436 posts)
78. Idiots
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:20 PM
Jan 2020

They should have been doing their jobs first and foremost and not blindly going along with Trump.

RockRaven

(14,990 posts)
79. Imagine how fucking stupid you have to be in your corruption to build your plan upon
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:21 PM
Jan 2020

a foundation of Trump lies.

HE ALWAYS LIES. EVEN TO HIS ALLIES. HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THIS? You have to make your corrupt plan independent of anything Trump tells you. Jesus Christ, the crooks and traitors in the GOP are low-quality.

Skittles

(153,185 posts)
80. they were betting that Trump the tweeting fool had this all nailed down better
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:42 PM
Jan 2020
they are as dumb as the rank and file Trump supporters

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
85. BS The GOP Senators knew. I bet you they're lying their butts off
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 08:18 PM
Jan 2020

Besides the GOP Senators are desperate un-American pos.

struggle4progress

(118,332 posts)
87. Couple charged With burglary
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 09:18 PM
Jan 2020

... The victim said she was putting her kids to bed upstairs when she heard someone in her house. When she went downstairs, she discovered the Bulls running out the back door of the house.

She followed the Bulls outside of the house and observed them placing bags of her items on their bicycles. A neighbor of the victim was driving in the alley when the Bulls tried to escape and stopped them ...

Among the items stolen were a full tool box, a laptop computer, a desktop computer, various tools and wires and a large blue duffel bag containing the woman’s purse and various items ...

The Bulls were arrested, and during questioning told police ... there are always houses listed as “free” where the homeowner needs to get out immediately.

Pernella Bull told police she entered the house and asked “Is anyone here?” and got no response. She said she assumed the house was vacant, starting taking items and giving them to her husband outside ...

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2011/05/27/couple-charged-with-burglarizing-south-st-paul-home/

meadowlander

(4,402 posts)
89. They knew it was a clusterfuck,
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 09:46 PM
Jan 2020

they just bet that most people wouldn't care or that they could repel any interest with procedural rules.

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