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The President Responds To The Kobe Tragedy (Original Post) Initech Jan 2020 OP
... Kurt V. Jan 2020 #1
A heartfelt statement from a real president. denbot Jan 2020 #2
Compare that to Chump's statement, he couldn't even get the facts right. Initech Jan 2020 #5
Lame. djacq Jan 2020 #9
KOBE BRYANT SAYS TRUMP CAN'T MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN; djacq Jan 2020 #38
He was not wrong! arthritisR_US Jan 2020 #60
You'd think The President would have access to accurate information aeromanKC Jan 2020 #11
Yeah he considers the Daily Caller, Infowars and the Washington Times "news". Initech Jan 2020 #29
Donald Trump is a sociopath. madaboutharry Jan 2020 #19
To be quite honest, (I know, it doesn't apply to Trump most of the time,) Archae Jan 2020 #53
You know if you criticize his accuracy, he'll take his sharpie to some news report tclambert Jan 2020 #56
The initial report I saw from NBC news and others did say "3 others killed". oldsoftie Jan 2020 #62
We need you BAraCK!! cornball 24 Jan 2020 #3
He's the best argument against the 22nd amendment ever AdamGG Jan 2020 #16
Four times the convention / amendment ruling out a third term denem Jan 2020 #58
We sure do! calimary Jan 2020 #32
President Obama is such a classy man, dware Jan 2020 #4
a response as sincere and classy as the man that wrote it........ Takket Jan 2020 #6
Is the Con still playing golf? malaise Jan 2020 #7
Nope! Fritz Walter Jan 2020 #10
Give him more and add chocolate cake with two scoops malaise Jan 2020 #12
Please add polonium sprinkles... AZ8theist Jan 2020 #33
Drumpf is safe from polonium sprinkles for now. keithbvadu2 Jan 2020 #45
He's on Moscow time. What time is it in Moscow now? NBachers Jan 2020 #24
Tomorrow malaise Jan 2020 #28
Jay Williams emotional in the wake of Kobe Bryant's death SportsCenter yuiyoshida Jan 2020 #8
Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #13
That's enough. Iggo Jan 2020 #14
Maybe not to you... phandancer917 Jan 2020 #15
Great post malaise Jan 2020 #30
He gave back to kids. He founded a sports academy Rhiannon12866 Jan 2020 #17
Could you maybe try to be a bigger jerk? Still In Wisconsin Jan 2020 #18
He's contributed way more than your internet self righteousness that's for sure nini Jan 2020 #22
Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #36
Buh-bye. nolabear Jan 2020 #39
And yet you can still post your BS nini Jan 2020 #40
I'm curious as to who he thinks are worthy and why Kobe doesn't meet his criteria. SaschaHM Jan 2020 #42
I think being contrary and righteous is their schtick nini Jan 2020 #43
Possibly. SaschaHM Jan 2020 #47
Be Kind. It's a reminder of our own mortality DesertRat Jan 2020 #23
It might be enough to step back and observe the national reaction. calimary Jan 2020 #49
Well said, calimary DesertRat Jan 2020 #54
Could not agree more! pazzyanne Jan 2020 #55
I like that. Kali Jan 2020 #50
It can be so hard to know essme Jan 2020 #25
thank you nini Jan 2020 #27
There will be plenty of death - gloaters out today. Go seek comfort with them. NBachers Jan 2020 #26
Too soon MustLoveBeagles Jan 2020 #31
the fuck? SaschaHM Jan 2020 #37
He hated Trump leftieNanner Jan 2020 #41
What a horrible, insensitive and uneducated thing to say Niagara Jan 2020 #44
The guy could do more than just bounce a basketball. People who knew him well have been talking politicaljunkie41910 Jan 2020 #48
K&R MustLoveBeagles Jan 2020 #20
K&R! n/t PandoraAwakened Jan 2020 #21
That is my President. warmfeet Jan 2020 #34
Obama has always had a beautiful way with words. riversedge Jan 2020 #35
A Real President Responds to an Unthinkable Tragedy Niagara Jan 2020 #46
what a pleasant surprise... stillcool Jan 2020 #51
Thank you President Obama...your words express how a lot of us feel. iluvtennis Jan 2020 #52
We have not had a President since Barak Obama. denem Jan 2020 #57
Correction: Trumps ghost Twittler responds. Kablooie Jan 2020 #59
Barack and Michelle Obama are the real American models that I can and do hold up as examples LiberalBrooke Jan 2020 #61

denbot

(9,901 posts)
2. A heartfelt statement from a real president.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 06:13 PM
Jan 2020

The contrast is light years beyond “black and white”.

djacq

(1,634 posts)
9. Lame.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 06:51 PM
Jan 2020

For someone who has the finest Intelligence Community at his reach, he can't even get the facts right. I guess the so called "fake news" CNN and MSNBC will have to clean up his lack of knowledge.

Compared to a real POTUS (Thank you Obama), Orange Slice lacks any empathy and sincerity.



Rest in Peace Kobe and Gianna.

aeromanKC

(3,325 posts)
11. You'd think The President would have access to accurate information
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 06:55 PM
Jan 2020

Last edited Sun Jan 26, 2020, 07:49 PM - Edit history (1)

3 others? IMPOTUS is an embarrassment to the office and country!!

Initech

(100,087 posts)
29. Yeah he considers the Daily Caller, Infowars and the Washington Times "news".
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 07:41 PM
Jan 2020

And some guy with a Twitter account posting conspiracy theories from his mom's basement.

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
19. Donald Trump is a sociopath.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 07:23 PM
Jan 2020

He has no capacity for empathy. He does not process the meaning of loss.

Archae

(46,338 posts)
53. To be quite honest, (I know, it doesn't apply to Trump most of the time,)
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 10:29 PM
Jan 2020

At nearly 3 pm Eastern, a couple news services reported 3 had been killed, along with Kobe.

Just giving Trump the benefit of a doubt here.

I know Trump would never give us the benefit of a doubt, but I will.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
56. You know if you criticize his accuracy, he'll take his sharpie to some news report
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 11:57 PM
Jan 2020

and try to make an 8 into a 3. Because THAT is what is important to him.

oldsoftie

(12,558 posts)
62. The initial report I saw from NBC news and others did say "3 others killed".
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 09:43 AM
Jan 2020

It wasnt until much later that i heard the rest.
As usual, initial reports often end up being wrong.

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
58. Four times the convention / amendment ruling out a third term
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 01:40 AM
Jan 2020

has proved to be a disaster for the country.

Grant 1876
TR 2008
Clinton 2000
Obama 2016

The one third term on record - FDR 1940, was our finest hour.

12 years is not asking too much.

Takket

(21,582 posts)
6. a response as sincere and classy as the man that wrote it........
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 06:17 PM
Jan 2020

i assume drumpf will respond with something equally heartfelt any time now

keithbvadu2

(36,835 posts)
45. Drumpf is safe from polonium sprinkles for now.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 08:15 PM
Jan 2020

Drumpf is safe from polonium sprinkles for now.

Once out of office, Donald loses value as the useful idiot.

Then he becomes a potential threat to people of real power; much like Jeff Epstein?

Loans get called in.

Response to Initech (Original post)

phandancer917

(145 posts)
15. Maybe not to you...
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 07:12 PM
Jan 2020

This life of ours is complex and painful - we all need distractions to deal with the shit that is thrown at us 24/7/365

Some people use Basketball as a distraction...some use drugs...some use religion. No matter HOW you get that distraction -- that manner in which you DO -- becomes part of your life.

Though not to me, MANY people saw Kobe as a way to escape their shitty life of crappy day. And in his death -- they are suffering too.

I would imagine that YOU have heroes that would hurt or concern you if they were in trouble/dead.

Try not to be too fucking snobby.....it is not a good look on paper.


nini

(16,672 posts)
22. He's contributed way more than your internet self righteousness that's for sure
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 07:29 PM
Jan 2020

He's gone a lot for plenty of people.. charities, mentoring etc etc etc.


Response to nini (Reply #22)

nini

(16,672 posts)
40. And yet you can still post your BS
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 08:01 PM
Jan 2020

Is it really that hard to let people have their moment even though you think he's unworthy?

Don't answer that - I know the answer.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
42. I'm curious as to who he thinks are worthy and why Kobe doesn't meet his criteria.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 08:04 PM
Jan 2020

You don't have to like the guy, but your metrics would have to be very skewed/limiting if he didn't meet them.

nini

(16,672 posts)
43. I think being contrary and righteous is their schtick
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 08:08 PM
Jan 2020

They wanted to get a rise out of people and I'm in such a crappy mood I bit. Life is fleeting.. Kobe brought me joy over the years in that I am a die hard Lakers fan. He has done a lot for the LA community and worldwide. He was headed to greater things in post NBA life. We mourn what the future would have given us too..

The haters have nothing but their own self loathing when they do stuff like that. pathetic.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
47. Possibly.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 08:18 PM
Jan 2020

There's always just this undercurrent of racism when it comes to the societal contributions to black entertainers/athletes that puts me off whenever one of them is mentioned on DU.

We're the party that advocates the most for costly social programs, yet people like the poster act so dumb when it comes to how massive amounts of taxable revenue are made.

Sports tourism is a massive and profitable industry, and while I don't think you have to worship the guys, there's just this profound ignorance and frankly disrespect for jobs that generate that tourism and that income. I've seen first hand the effects of have a local sports team can be on a city. Hell, even nearby towns make money off of having a popular sports team in the next team over.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
23. Be Kind. It's a reminder of our own mortality
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 07:29 PM
Jan 2020
@BerniceKing
Mourning a “celebrity” does not = lack of “consciousness.”

And sometimes, the death of someone we feel like we knew, but we never actually touched, triggers pain about the death of people we knew well.

We are on a brief pilgrimage here, reconciling life and death.

Love well.




calimary

(81,350 posts)
49. It might be enough to step back and observe the national reaction.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 08:33 PM
Jan 2020

I’m not into professional sports. Of course I knew about Kobe Bryant and also the many reasons for his stature in the game and in general. Sports is not really my thing, but I can so deeply appreciate the impact this man had. Holy Cow!

People are truly and deeply moved, and hurting. Just ponder for a moment what that says. Just consider what that says. Not just about the sports superstar who’s died, but how deep a mark he left on so many hearts.

Maybe the outpouring of sorrow is magnified by the times. Sweet Lordy these are sad times. Anyway. Hurtful times. Painful times. Already there. But mostly we’ve tried to hold it in a little, maybe vent and protest and argue here, but THIS - THIS is not anger. This is plain and simple hurt. Hurt that is now stepping forward in full. It had lurked in the shadows. Anger took center stage. But today allowed sorrow to step to the front.

I think it might be that much more intense now because of what this says about millions of Kobe Bryant fans. And one really does have to stop and marvel at the kind of mark this man left behind. Some other individual in the news who I will leave unnamed has been suffocating us all for too long. And sometimes, I guess, that suffocation is blown straight through, just finally erupting like a pent-up volcano. The contrast alone is frankly stunning.

And, frankly, it’s nice to be reminded that there are still quality people in the public eye. People who provide a genuine inspiration and role model to the good, who set a positive example all-around. Even when we lose one of ‘em.

pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
55. Could not agree more!
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 11:42 PM
Jan 2020

I'm not a sports fan, but I totally appreciated Kobe's acts of philanthropy. He was just coming into his own at this point. He understood that there was more to fame than just his sports prowess.

essme

(1,207 posts)
25. It can be so hard to know
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 07:30 PM
Jan 2020

when the shut the fuck up, can't it?

If I were you, I would delete this post. Or admit you were drinking or something.

NBachers

(17,126 posts)
26. There will be plenty of death - gloaters out today. Go seek comfort with them.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 07:33 PM
Jan 2020

Apparently, President Obama, Michelle, and the Obama family, do not agree with you.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
37. the fuck?
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 07:55 PM
Jan 2020

One simple google search could reveal the ways that Kobe and frankly other athletes have given back. Why you automatically think that he has contributed nothing to the US is very telling.

Him "bouncing a ball well" sustained a local sports industry. I have an uncle that fed and took care of his family for decades off of the income he made catering local sporting events. That doesn't happen if guys like Kobe don't bounce a ball and the sports franchise that he was associated with didn't have anything like Kobe. People aren't getting paid to make and sell merchandise with your gd name on it. You're not generating nearly the amount of taxable revenue that he generated.

Big athletes are industries to themselves that often generate millions in revenue for local enterprises. Sports tourism matters to millions of Americans looking to put food on their table. And all of that doesn't even get into his philanthropy and business ventures.

So honestly, where the fuck do you get off?

Niagara

(7,632 posts)
44. What a horrible, insensitive and uneducated thing to say
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 08:12 PM
Jan 2020

Kobe and his family had created several charity foundations. One is the China Foundation for education, sports, and culture programs for children in both China and the U.S.

There is also the Kobe And Vanessa Bryant Family Foundation that improves the lives of homeless youth.


Don't tell us that he did not serve nothing for anyone. You are wrong.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
48. The guy could do more than just bounce a basketball. People who knew him well have been talking
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 08:20 PM
Jan 2020

all day about his work ethic, his charity work, his activism with young inner city kids; but mainly his hard work ethic and leading by example. No he wasn't perfect; but who among us is? So yes, go ahead and beat your head up against a wall. You deserve it. Several people mentioned his need to be the hardest worker on the court. As he said, he was born with talent, but he made sure he worked hard everyday as if he had none. People also mentioned how hard he worked in practice. One guy from another team recalled coming in to practice on the Laker's court one day really early and saw Koby on the other side of the court also working out. He said that he went ahead with his regular practice workout, and much later noticed that Koby was still there working out. He said he asked Koby about it later, "Why he was still there working out?" The other player said he had noticed Koby when he first got there and he said that he appeared to have been having a really hard work out even then, and he looked really good. So why was he still there? Koby said he told him that "You are not going to come in here on my court and work harder than me. No one is."

Sounds like the guy not just had a great work ethic to me, but was a great guy overall.

Niagara

(7,632 posts)
46. A Real President Responds to an Unthinkable Tragedy
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 08:16 PM
Jan 2020



R.I.P. Kobe, Gianna and the rest of the souls that were on board.

iluvtennis

(19,864 posts)
52. Thank you President Obama...your words express how a lot of us feel.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 09:47 PM
Jan 2020

RIP Kobe you were e spectacular basketball player and an even better man and parent.

LiberalBrooke

(527 posts)
61. Barack and Michelle Obama are the real American models that I can and do hold up as examples
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 07:04 AM
Jan 2020

For my grandkids. To be kind, calm and just plain compassionate and nice people. How I yearn for that in the White House again. Thank you Obama’s.

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