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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 11:58 AM Jan 2020

Supreme Court Poised to Overturn 38 State Constitutional Amendments on Church-State Separation

Religious conservatives asked the Supreme Court Wednesday to overturn 38 state constitutional amendments and require taxpayers to fund religious schools. You read that right. The case, Espinoza v. Montana Dept. of Revenue isn’t about whether a state may fund religious schools through a school choice, voucher, or similar program. It’s about whether it must. And the conservatives might just win.

At issue in the case, probably the most significant church-state case on the 2019-20 docket, is Montana’s “no-aid” amendment to its state constitution, which was revised and passed in 1972. Like similar amendments in 37 other states, it prohibits “direct or indirect funding” for any “sectarian purpose.”

In 2015, the state legislature passed a law that gave a tax credit of up to $150 for donations to a school scholarship program. But in 2018, the Montana Supreme Court struck down the program, saying it violated the 1972 constitutional provision.[JM1] That’s when a group of religious organizations upped the ante. They went to the Supreme Court, seeking not just to reinstate the program but to toss out the “no-aid” amendment entirely – and, as a consequence, invalidate 37 similar amendments across the country.

That would open the floodgates to the funding of religious schools, especially since the plaintiffs argue that not funding them—previously the constitutional norm—is actually a form of discrimination. For liberals, however, public funding of religious schools is blatantly unconstitutional.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/supreme-court-poised-overturn-38-190330544.html

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Supreme Court Poised to Overturn 38 State Constitutional Amendments on Church-State Separation (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Jan 2020 OP
Then these schools need to start paying taxes, paying social security for their staff, abide by Johonny Jan 2020 #1
An excellent point Bayard Jan 2020 #4
if you can fund christian only schools... why not white only? getagrip_already Jan 2020 #2
I would love to see Muslims ask avebury Jan 2020 #3
Was going to make the same point DeminPennswoods Jan 2020 #6
That may be a bit far yet. But a Christian school for a sect that believes rurallib Jan 2020 #5
YEP Cosmocat Jan 2020 #8
Does this mean I can refuse to pay my property taxes? TheRealNorth Jan 2020 #7

Johonny

(20,852 posts)
1. Then these schools need to start paying taxes, paying social security for their staff, abide by
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 12:03 PM
Jan 2020

state education programs, abide by state certifications, abide by the affordable care act in their health care coverages ... etc.

These people always want their cake and eat it too.

Bayard

(22,100 posts)
4. An excellent point
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 12:18 PM
Jan 2020

Separation between church and state will mean nothing if they win this case. We'll be back to requiring the Lord's Prayer to be recited in every school, every morning.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
2. if you can fund christian only schools... why not white only?
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 12:04 PM
Jan 2020

If denying funding to one based on race is wrong, why not the other?

avebury

(10,952 posts)
3. I would love to see Muslims ask
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 12:17 PM
Jan 2020

for tax payer finding of their schools. Christianity is not the only religion out there.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
6. Was going to make the same point
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 12:24 PM
Jan 2020

What the groups that sue want is funding for Catholic and "Christian" schools. Just wait until the first Muslim or Hebrew school asks for funding.

rurallib

(62,424 posts)
5. That may be a bit far yet. But a Christian school for a sect that believes
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 12:21 PM
Jan 2020

in separation of races would probably be acceptable under this potential ruling.
As long as "freedom of religion" is worked into the mix someplace.

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
7. Does this mean I can refuse to pay my property taxes?
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 12:24 PM
Jan 2020

If Christian bakers can refuse to bake cakes for gay weddings because it violates their beliefs, I should not have to pay for children to be taught those beliefs that violate mine.

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