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Trailrider1951

(3,414 posts)
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 09:32 PM Jan 2020

Heads up on this phishing e-mail I got from "Amazon"

I got this e-mail today telling me that I needed to "update my credit card because it expired and my Prime account was in jeopardy". It looked absolutely legit. Of course, it wanted me to **click the link** to update my credit card info. HA! I went on Amazon's website, and there was NOTHING wrong with my account, so I reported it to: stop-spoofing@amazon.com. It's a scam a minute out there. Be careful, my friends.

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Heads up on this phishing e-mail I got from "Amazon" (Original Post) Trailrider1951 Jan 2020 OP
Yes... If there is any problem with credit card for PRIME or subscriptions, a red notice pops up hlthe2b Jan 2020 #1
Yep, they let you know when you try to buy something. Iggo Jan 2020 #18
Funny thing is, most new spam are generated using Amazon Web Services. TheBlackAdder Jan 2020 #2
AWS controls about a third of the cloud Cal Carpenter Jan 2020 #34
I've gotten that same message twice. Raven Jan 2020 #3
I first thing I do is look at the sender's adress. Its always a giveaway if ... marble falls Jan 2020 #4
I do the same. Different Drummer Jan 2020 #5
yep always look at the address! samnsara Jan 2020 #27
Even when the address looks legit dflprincess Jan 2020 #8
And make sure there aren't 55 addresses that you are replying to... Wounded Bear Jan 2020 #10
I've had a fools luck so far! marble falls Jan 2020 #12
Not enough! CloudWatcher Jan 2020 #13
Yeah, and scammers will sometimes call you from your own phone number too Clash City Rocker Jan 2020 #28
Yep, check the sender's e-mail address Vogon_Glory Jan 2020 #32
Thanks for the info. Totally Tunsie Jan 2020 #6
Always look at the origination email address bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #7
Yep, I got the "Your Amazon account has been blocked..." bullshit yesterday. TruckFump Jan 2020 #9
I get bullshit like that from most of my accounts from time to time... Wounded Bear Jan 2020 #11
Haven't had email scams lately but I keep wnylib Jan 2020 #14
I got a call from the "Department of Social Security Administration". lastlib Jan 2020 #21
Ask them if they work for the Department of Redundancy Department... Wounded Bear Jan 2020 #22
I don't get to talk to anyone on these calls. wnylib Jan 2020 #25
I got a notice that my "cloud storage" was in jeopardy of being destroyed. Haggis for Breakfast Jan 2020 #15
I got one from FedEx. Delete them all! AllyCat Jan 2020 #16
I got one of those from "Apple" last year. Iggo Jan 2020 #17
I get these constantly Bev54 Jan 2020 #19
Wow, I've never gotten any of those from anyone. cwydro Jan 2020 #24
Thank you for this. Jamastiene Jan 2020 #20
advice from a systems programmer for 30 years jg10003 Jan 2020 #23
Is it OK to just open up the email? Tracer Jan 2020 #33
If using Outlook or firefox, read the email in the preview box,but do not open it in a new tab jg10003 Jan 2020 #35
Thank you!! I'm usually very skeptical of anything that asks me to give info and I check.. samnsara Jan 2020 #26
No email like this is ever legit Clash City Rocker Jan 2020 #29
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #30
K&R. nt Ilsa Jan 2020 #31

hlthe2b

(102,297 posts)
1. Yes... If there is any problem with credit card for PRIME or subscriptions, a red notice pops up
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 09:37 PM
Jan 2020

on Amazon itself. I know because my credit card expiration date needed to be updated when I got my new card. It also pops up when you try to buy something (obviously). They definitely DON'T email you with a link to update.

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
2. Funny thing is, most new spam are generated using Amazon Web Services.
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 09:40 PM
Jan 2020

.

You get the expanded information on the email, and it will show you the sender IP address.

Open a DOS or command window and type in: nslookup xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

This will show you the domain name of the sender. Most new spam originates from Amazon.

.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
34. AWS controls about a third of the cloud
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 12:00 PM
Jan 2020

last I checked. So a huge amount of email providers, web hosts, etc are via AWS.

There's no fucking avoiding them. As a small retail business owner watching Amazon stick its hand in more and more industries and creating vertical monopoly (not just selling, but branding and manufacturing and content creation and food and shipping and....) I can only hope that it somehow implodes. Because it's not like anyone is enforcing anti-trust regulations this century.

Different Drummer

(7,621 posts)
5. I do the same.
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 10:01 PM
Jan 2020

If the two-letter code for a foreign country is part of the sender's address, it's very likely a scam.

dflprincess

(28,079 posts)
8. Even when the address looks legit
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 10:46 PM
Jan 2020

I never click the link in the email, I go out to the bank's (or whoever's) site and check my account.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
10. And make sure there aren't 55 addresses that you are replying to...
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 10:56 PM
Jan 2020

welcome to spamalot if you click on that.

CloudWatcher

(1,850 posts)
13. Not enough!
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 11:10 PM
Jan 2020

The email "From" and "Sender" are easily forged. I get fake email from my own email address all the time. Decades ago I demo'd this by sending my boss an email from his boss firing him (um, he was watching as I did it ... it was a demo).

Two suggestions:

1) Never click on links in email. Use your own bookmarks and go to the website. The only
exception is for two-stage authentication emails where you're confirming that you own the
email address and are expecting it.

2) If you want to see where it came from, use your email viewer to look at all the headers and try
and figure out the path used to send the email by the data recorded in the "Received" headers.
This can be useful, but is not for the faint-of-heart (or poor of eyesight). But even if the email was
sent from a normal email server, it doesn't mean it's legit.




Clash City Rocker

(3,396 posts)
28. Yeah, and scammers will sometimes call you from your own phone number too
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 08:40 AM
Jan 2020

That way, you can’t block the phone number.

Vogon_Glory

(9,119 posts)
32. Yep, check the sender's e-mail address
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 09:24 AM
Jan 2020

Not only are foreign e-mail addresses red flags. But so are a lot of the innocuous-sounding dot com addresses.

bucolic_frolic

(43,190 posts)
7. Always look at the origination email address
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 10:43 PM
Jan 2020

they never match anything from the supposed sending company. I've gotten these for 20 years. Don't know how anyone could get taken in on them, they are so transparent.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
9. Yep, I got the "Your Amazon account has been blocked..." bullshit yesterday.
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 10:51 PM
Jan 2020

So, of course, I like you went to Amazon and checked. All was fine.


Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
11. I get bullshit like that from most of my accounts from time to time...
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 10:59 PM
Jan 2020

always check the return address, as has been said in replies above.

I especially love the notices to 'Unsubscribe' from sites and services I've never heard of.

It's a dangerous world out there.

wnylib

(21,493 posts)
14. Haven't had email scams lately but I keep
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 11:15 PM
Jan 2020

getting scam messages on my phone.

First was a message about something wrong with my SS account. Ssid 'they' had bern trying to reach me about an irregularity with my SS account. If I did not get back to them, they would assume it was fraud and would prosecute. I had just checked my online account the day before because I got an email from SS to say I had a new message. The message was a letter about the cost of living raise.

I called SS to ask about the fraud threat. They said it was a current scam and to ignore it, but checked my account to verify that it was ok, no problems.

2 days later and almost every day since, I get recorded messages that are not complete. Sounds like the first part is cut off, as if the message started playing before the voice mail could start recording. It instructs me to press a number if I want my refund.

I did not work last year, so I have no IRS refund due. Noting else I would get a refund from. Checked online about refund scams. Found something about IRS scams. Not sure quite how it works. Something about false returns filed in someone's name and offers to help collect the refund. Scary part about that is how could anyone file a return without a SS number? Now I'm worried that my tax preparer's system was hacked.

lastlib

(23,250 posts)
21. I got a call from the "Department of Social Security Administration".
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 12:30 AM
Jan 2020

I'm wise enough to know that the real "Social Security Administration" ISN"T a "Department," ergo, doesn't have the word "Department" in its name. So I played with the caller: "THE Department of Social Security Administration?? From the GOVernment?" (If he says "yes," he has committed a fraud!) He just repeated the name. "You're the folks who collect my FICA taxes? Hey, I've been wanting to call you guys!" Then I went on about how I was trying to fix something that related to my FICA account. He asked for my SSN, and I gave him a number that I knew from my tax experience would not be a valid SSN. Then I asked him for his name, first and last, which he naturally wouldn't give me. I asked him for his company name; when he gave me the "Department Of" BS, I again asked if he was from the government. This time he slipped up and said he was. So I informed him that he had just committed a fraud, and he hung up.

wnylib

(21,493 posts)
25. I don't get to talk to anyone on these calls.
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 08:12 AM
Jan 2020

I don't answer for numbers that I or my phone don't recognize. I can call back if they leave a message. But these messages are cut off at the start with no introductory message. No name or agency identification. Just instructions to press a number if I want my refund. What kind of message is that? Pressing a number on a message would not get me to any extension on a message.

Maybe that's the point, to make me curious enough to answer when they call.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
15. I got a notice that my "cloud storage" was in jeopardy of being destroyed.
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 11:19 PM
Jan 2020

Hahahahahahahahaha. I've never stored anything in the cloud.

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
17. I got one of those from "Apple" last year.
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 11:42 PM
Jan 2020

Went to the real Apple website and same as you, found nothing.

I still changed my password, though. 😂

Bev54

(10,053 posts)
19. I get these constantly
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 11:56 PM
Jan 2020

from Amazon and from almost every "phone" and "cable" provider and monthly from Netflix, all saying my payment did not go through and I need to update my credit card information. I ignore them all, if I am really behind someone will call me. You can usually tell by their email address.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
24. Wow, I've never gotten any of those from anyone.
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 03:42 AM
Jan 2020

You must be on some list somewhere. Yikes.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
20. Thank you for this.
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 12:12 AM
Jan 2020

I have had to be in constant contact with my bank because of so many of those types of messages. I am glad you warned about this on here. It is a big help to know what to look out for.

jg10003

(976 posts)
23. advice from a systems programmer for 30 years
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 12:52 AM
Jan 2020

NEVER CLICK ON A LINK IN AN EMAIL - THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS.

The email may look completely real.
The sending address may look totally legitimate.
The email may contain personal information that will make you believe it's real (e.g. mother's maiden name, your social security number, your credit card number, etc.).
It doesn't matter - do not click it. Go the site of the alleged bank, electric company, cable company, cell phone company, or whatever, and login. if you do not know the company's site then Google it. Do not use the site address given in the email.

Do this even if you are 100 percent certain the email is legitimate.

Tracer

(2,769 posts)
33. Is it OK to just open up the email?
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 11:54 AM
Jan 2020

I'm super careful about emails from people/companies that I don't know and ALWAYS look at the address they are coming from.

But occasionally I will accidentally open up the email. Does doing this trigger anything awful other than just more emails from that person/company?

Thanks in advance.

jg10003

(976 posts)
35. If using Outlook or firefox, read the email in the preview box,but do not open it in a new tab
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 04:36 PM
Jan 2020

or window. also don't download any attached files. Btw, this applies to all emails, even those from family and friends.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
26. Thank you!! I'm usually very skeptical of anything that asks me to give info and I check..
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 08:22 AM
Jan 2020

..the site first. "Paypal" also sends these out.


The one i nearly fell for was from "Medicare" wanting info. so they could send out a back brace. At the time I was caring for my elderly parents and that call came at the exact time I was looking for info about their medicare...and mom was needing a brace. When they asked for moms SS# I asked if I could get the info and call them back. Nope they needed it now. Not only did it send a red flag it pissed me off too. So I hung up and blocked their number.

Clash City Rocker

(3,396 posts)
29. No email like this is ever legit
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 08:52 AM
Jan 2020

Any email that claims to be from a company or business entity that gives some ominous warning and asks you to “click here” to fix it is either trying to give you malware or is about to ask for a credit card number or social security number for illicit purposes. Legitimate companies don’t work that way.

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