Active shooter in Hawaii. Two officers shot, and killed. Fire. CNN

[applegrove]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/19/us/active-shooter-honolulu-hawaii/index.html

FBI is responding to an active shooter in Honolulu

By Carma Hassan and Darran Simon, CNN

Updated 3:43 PM ET, Sun January 19, 2020

Authorities in Hawaii are responding to an active shooter in Honolulu, the FBI says.

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(CNN)The FBI said Sunday authorities are responding to an "active shooter" in Waikiki, Hawaii.

"We are responding to an active shooter in Waikiki. That is what we are responding to. It is developing," FBI Honolulu Operational Support Technician Derek Hayes told CNN.

Honolulu Police@honolulupolice

In the area of Hibicus Dr. and connecting streets are closed down due to police investigation.

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Honolulu Police said the area of Hibiscus Drive was closed because of a police investigation.

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[PoindexterOglethorpe]

1. Right now there's a live stream on one of the TV stations.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/live/

The shooter has set a home on fire, and it's spread to three other homes.

[Coventina]

2. Another atrocity enabled by the NRA....

[applegrove]

3. I don't understand why more police chiefs don't stand up against the NRA

and for reasonable gun control.

[Initech]

4. Every country has guns.

Only one country has a political party dedicated to putting them in the hands of idiots.

[applegrove]

5. +100 Yes. To have something in their hands they can then threaten

Democrats will take away from them come election time.

[VMA131Marine]

9. Most countries have many fewer guns

And guns per capita than the US.

It’s incredibly difficult to legally own a gun in Japan. In 2018, there were 10 (yes, TEN) shooting deaths in Japan, a nation of 127 Million.

The homicide rate in Japan was 0.2 per 100,000 in 2018. The US rate is around 4.9 per 100,000, nearly 25 times higher.

[Initech]

11. Yeah I saw that video.

It's unbelievable what you have to go through to get a gun in Japan. If only w ed could implement those kinds of laws here.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

13. Because a lot of them have guns themselves.

[ManiacJoe]

23. Depends on what you mean by "stand up against".

I don't understand why more police chiefs don't stand up against the NRA and for reasonable gun control.

Chief of police tends to be a political post where his/her politics reflect the mayor's politics, which is often anti-gun.

Police chiefs don't normally have much input into the legislation created by the state governments.

[applegrove]

24. But when you hear them speak up it makes a huge difference. I guess they

are told not to. I see an arms race in canada between the police and the perps in canada. I know the arms race is even worse in the USA.

[ManiacJoe]

25. The frequent problem with the chiefs speaking out about guns is

that the lower ranks tend to voice the opposite opinion since they tend to see that legal ownership of guns often helps them do their jobs as patrolmen. This usually results in no one saying anything as an effort to maintain the illusion of a united front.

[applegrove]

26. How does guns everywhere, through loopholes and mass illegal buyers,

help patrolmen do their jobs? How do assault rifles in the hands of the public help the police?

[ManiacJoe]

28. Those relatively small things do not help the police.

However, 99% of the gun owners are law abiding.
The big problem with illegal buyers is the choice of the prosecutors not to take them to trial.
Loop holes, when they exist, have to be fixed by the legislators.

The number of assault rifles in the hands of civilians is very small due to the closing of the machine-gun registry back in 1986-ish. You are probably thinking of "assault weapons" which is a classification that does exist in the real world.

[Hoyt]

27. BS. Police don't appreciate citizens toting gunz. Problem with many police is they want to carry

gunz too (when retired) and are far too often gun-nuts and racists.

Pretty much mirroring non-police gun-lovers.

[ManiacJoe]

30. I doubt that the pro-gun police would lie about it.

Seems like an odd thing to lie about.

You are correct in that most cops do like being a special class who get to carry when the public does not.

[applegrove]

34. The state has a monopoly on violence in a democracy. Closing gun show

loopholes, banning assault weapons and not allowing mass buys and perhaps not allowing domestic abusers or the mentally ill to have guns are not going to take a guns out of John Q. Public's hands.

[ManiacJoe]

35. Thus, the current laws?

[applegrove]

36. So we change the laws on gun ownership to make public ownership safer.

What is wrong with that?

[ManiacJoe]

37. That is a great goal.

Unfortunately, that is usually not the goal of the people actually writing the proposed bills, which is usually apparent when you read the details of the proposals.

[applegrove]

38. I've not heard hand gun ban talk by anyone except the right wing come

wedge issue ti...... i mean election time.

[ManiacJoe]

39. Probably due to most of the folks, who are not at

the extreme ends of the spectrum, realize that talks of a handgun bans would be a quick way to lose an election.

Why do you bring this up in the current conversation?

[applegrove]

40. Because you complained about the people writing the gun legislation

are not doing it in a reasonable way. Why do you need context to my answers to your statements? Are there more than one of you?

[ManiacJoe]

41. When you mentioned handgun bans,

it seemed odd since those bans have not been in any recent bills nor in this conversation up until then. Thus the topic seem to come from nowhere and going off on a tangent.

I apologize if I misinterpreted your post.

[applegrove]

42. Exactly. The talk of gun bans is all right wing NRAers trying to scare gun owners into voting

Republicans. That is my point. The most extreme position is publisized by the right.

[ManiacJoe]

43. Need to be careful with the wording here.

Handgun bans are not being talked about by politicians at either end of the of the spectrum nor by any of the pro-gun organizations.

However, there are plenty of politicians (mostly far left) talking about "assault weapon" bans, which leads to all the pro-gun organizations spreading the warnings.

[applegrove]

44. The right always says "they are coming for your guns" every election.

So often do they do this that it is a permanent meme in the brains of the base.

[ManiacJoe]

45. Unfortunately, there are always some politicians trying to do exactly that.

Not always the same politicians, not always the same guns.

[applegrove]

46. I feel like i am doing a dos si dos with you. Are you saying democratic

politicians are saying they are going to take peoples guns from them? Other than assault weapons? Because they aren't at a national level. The right says it again and again "they are coming for your guns".

[ManiacJoe]

47. Many of the presidential candidates were talking just that.

"Assault weapons" were the gun of choice this time.
Most, if not all, of those candidates have since dropped out of the race.

[Dennis Donovan]

6. Man was served w/ eviction notice by landlord, he stabbed her

...then shot 2 responding officers (both killed), Then, he set his house on fire, which spread to other houses. He might be dead. That's what I just heard on their local feed.

[Demovictory9]

7. OMG

[malaise]

8. I'm betting domestic violence

but I'm hoping his entire family was not killed by the shooter either by weapons or that horrific fire.
Spare a thought for the families of the two cops.

[applegrove]

10. Yes vibes to the loved ones of the police. And to the wounded landlord. nt

He was being evicted. I hope nobody else was in the house too.

[malaise]

15. I may be wrong - the eviction looks like the issue

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/01/19/multiple-honolulu-police-officers-injured-shooting-near-diamond-head/



Local report

[mahina]

31. Yep

That, and he'd lost his mind.

[Dennis Donovan]

12. This is right below the Punchbowl

[mahina]

29. Your image is right but that's Diamond Head, not Punchbowl, just fyi.

[Dennis Donovan]

33. Oh how would you know?

(seeing your avatar and screen name )

Thank you for the correction!

[mahina]

48. Cheers

🤙🏼🌸
Always a fair question we should find a way to ask even, maybe most of all, of ourselves!

[Dennis Donovan]

14. Fire dept couldn't put out the fires at first due to active shooter (reason why fire spread)

Local reporter just said that the fire might spread to other homes on the block (I count 18 houses on the block via Google Earth).

Also saying guy had multiple orders of protection against him, and a rap sheet. And guns...

They think he's dead (the shooter).

I'm watching this feed: https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/01/19/multiple-honolulu-police-officers-injured-shooting-near-diamond-head/

Jesus...

[malaise]

16. I've been watching that as well

Horrific

[Dennis Donovan]

17. This guy is live tweeting from the street (he lives there)

Link to tweet

[Demovictory9]

18. An ambulance believed to be carrying one of the officers who was killed in a shooting near Diamond H

Link to tweet

[Demovictory9]

19. fire burning

Link to tweet

[msongs]

20. 4 blocks from me but not at home today. sad news. nt

[malaise]

21. Glad to hear you're safe

[applegrove]

22. Stay safe.

[mahina]

32. HPD is saying they're pretty sure he's cooked.

[Dennis Donovan]

49. Jesus. Body camera footage shows 2019 encounter between suspect, officer killed in line of duty

Video at link.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/01/20/body-camera-footage-shows-encounter-between-suspect-officer-killed-line-duty-sunday/

By HNN Staff | January 19, 2020 at 6:20 PM HST - Updated January 19 at 6:52 PM

HONOLULU, Hawaii (HawaiiNewsNow) - At least one of the Honolulu police officers who was shot and killed in the line of duty Sunday had previously been dispatched to the suspect’s home in response to emergency calls, according to video obtained by Hawaii News Now.

In an emotional press conference at police headquarters early Sunday evening, Honolulu Police Chief Susan Ballard identified the slain officers as Tiffany Enriquez, a seven-year veteran of the Honolulu Police Department, and Kaulike Kalama, who had served nine years on the force.

Body camera footage that was filmed last year from the perspective of an unidentified officer shows that on at least one prior occasion, Officer Enriquez had responded to the Diamond Head home of Jerry Hanel, the suspect in Sunday’s killings.

The 69-year-old had a history of mental instability and disagreements with neighbors but was not prone to extreme violence, his lawyer told Hawaii News Now. Hanel is believed to have been killed in the fire that broke out soon after the shootings were reported.

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[Demovictory9]

50. 7 homes destroyed by the fire

[applegrove]

51. They are lucky nobody else was killed.

[mahina]

52. Two females are unaccounted for

Plus our two officers
And then there’s him. 5 people.

[applegrove]

53. Oh no. So sad. I knew about the loss of the officers. I just assumed

they had time to warn the neighbours.

[mahina]

54. Yeah. I'm still processing. I go through this neighborhood a couple times a week.

My Dad lived a couple of blocks away.

This is devastating.

Crazy.

[applegrove]

55. Vibes to you all.

[mahina]

56. Thanks, you're kind. forwarding that to the families who lost their

People today. 🌸