O. M. G. - Reality meets sitcom - former GOPer guesting on MSNBC, and "Seinfeld's" George Costanza

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Watching life imitate art on MSNBC, this morning, in the hour following Joy Reid's show. Guest Rick Tyler, a former GOP strategist who MAY have been converted away from that path-to-Hell*, made the point that George Costanza (played by Jason Alexander) weasel-worded it in "Seinfeld" years ago.

My husband calls it "Costanza-Logic".

So here's the "'Costanza Logic' of the day" - spelled out differently by former GOP strategist Rick Tyler, on MSNBC this morning (1/18/20):
“BY VIRTUE OF BELIEVING IT, IT ASCRIBES A TRUTH TO IT.”
- Rick Tyler, former GOP strategist, on with Alex Witt.

JERRY, JUST REMEMBER, IT’S NOT A LIE IF YOU BELIEVE IT.”
- George Costanza to Jerry Seinfeld, “Seinfeld.”
- Jerry, just remember. It's not a lie... if you believe it...
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Weasel-words to live by, in trump-world.


* only time will tell.

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1. On another subject, what just occurred to me?

Meghan is the new Yoko Ono.

[spanone]

2. Now that's a horse apple of huge proportions...

[dchill]

3. A lie that you believe is still a lie...

No truth can be ascribed to it. There are no halvable truths, and no true lies. Farcical logic from a comedy series is not logic. It's just comedy.

[coti]

6. I think partially- technically- the point being made is that lying requires intent

and prior genuine knowledge of the truth. Though that may apply more correctly to the verb "to lie" than the noun "a lie."

Even so, purposefully kidding yourself into "belief," as Trump cultists often do today, is part of a lying process. Just because you SAY you believe something, even saying it to yourself, it doesn't mean you really do.

[Bleacher Creature]

4. Jason Alexander is pretty outspoken in politics (and on the good side).

I'd expect a tweet from him repudiating this guy fairly soon.

[rickyhall]

5. "A lie is a lie is a lie," my dad.

[LuvNewcastle]

7. Seinfeld is a pretty dark show.

I think what George is talking about here is the process a person puts himself through to make a lie believable to someone else. If you're able to flip a switch inside yourself and convince yourself of something, it's much easier to convince other people of the same thing. That's what a lot of actors do, and preachers and used car salesmen.