Trump to top Generals: "You're dopes and babies..."

[CousinIT]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/youre-a-bunch-of-dopes-and-babies-inside-trumps-stunning-tirade-against-generals/2020/01/16/d6dbb8a6-387e-11ea-bb7b-265f4554af6d_story.html

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Trump’s first complaint was to repeat what he had vented about to his national security adviser months earlier: South Korea should pay for a $10 billion missile defense system that the United States built for it. The system was designed to shoot down any short- and medium-range ballistic missiles from North Korea to protect South Korea and American troops stationed there. But Trump argued that the South Koreans should pay for it, proposing that the administration pull U.S. troops out of the region or bill the South Koreans for their protection.

“We should charge them rent,” Trump said of South Korea. “We should make them pay for our soldiers. We should make money off of everything.”

Trump proceeded to explain that NATO, too, was worthless. U.S. generals were letting the allied member countries get away with murder, he said, and they owed the United States a lot of money after not living up to their promise of paying their dues.

“They’re in arrears,” Trump said, reverting to the language of real estate. He lifted both his arms at his sides in frustration. Then he scolded top officials for the untold millions of dollars he believed they had let slip through their fingers by allowing allies to avoid their obligations.

“We are owed money you haven’t been collecting!” Trump told them. “You would totally go bankrupt if you had to run your own business.”

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“I want to win,” he said. “We don’t win any wars anymore .?.?. We spend $7 trillion, everybody else got the oil and we’re not winning anymore.”

Trump by now was in one of his rages. He was so angry that he wasn’t taking many breaths. All morning, he had been coarse and cavalier, but the next several things he bellowed went beyond that description. They stunned nearly everyone in the room, and some vowed that they would never repeat them. Indeed, they have not been reported until now.

“I wouldn’t go to war with you people,” Trump told the assembled brass.

Addressing the room, the commander in chief barked, “You’re a bunch of dopes and babies.”

[dewsgirl]

1. "You would totally go bankrupt if you had to run your own business."

Says the guy, that went bankrupt 6 times.

[cab67]

19. I was about to make the same comment.

[dewsgirl]

21. GMTA

[CousinIT]

20. Plus: government is not a 'business'

Can not realistically be run as one.

[SergeStorms]

33. Isn't that what republicans have always wanted though?

George W. Bush was supposed to be our "first MBA president", because republicans are convinced the private sector can do anything better than the government. I think it's painfully obvious by now that these two republican "businessmen" (Bush and Trump) have been abject failures at the job of leading our country.

I never thought I'd see a republican president worse than George W. Bush, but then Russia and America's morons selected Donald J. Trump, and he blew Bush right out of the water! So the great republican "run the government like a business" experiment has been tried twice, and both times it's ended in disaster. Let's throw that republican canard alongside the heap of other republican notions (trickle down economics, for one) that have failed miserably. Americans should be convinced by now that Democrats handle the economy much better than republicans and their schemes to funnel all the money to the top.

[CousinIT]

36. Economic history has shown for years the US economy does much better under Democrats

Data show that the U.S. economy does better under Democratic presidents.
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-10-06/why-the-economy-does-better-under-democrats

The Economy Under Democratic vs. Republican Presidents
https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/democrats/2016/6/the-economy-under-democratic-vs-republican-presidents

It has often been suggested that Republicans are better at overseeing the economy than Democrats. However, an analysis of economic performance since World War II under Democratic versus Republican presidents shows that claims that Republicans are better at managing the economy are simply not true. While the reasons are neither fully understood nor completely attributable to policy choices, data show that the economy has performed much better during Democratic administrations. Economic growth, job creation and industrial production have all been stronger.

In fact, a recent paper by economists Alan Blinder and Mark Watson states: “The superiority of economic performance under Democrats rather than Republicans is nearly ubiquitous; it holds almost regardless of how you define success.” Fact-checking groups have investigated similar statements and have found time and time again that they are true. Moreover, past research shows that stock market returns are also higher under Democrats.

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[handmade34]

2. ok trump...

you want to talk about bankruptcies...


my disgust knows no bounds... w/him and the people he rode in on

[Kingofalldems]

3. Of course he wouldn't go to war.

He has bone spurs in his poor little feet.

[magicarpet]

7. Besides,... he broke a toe nail when he stumbled into the coffee table the other night in the dark.

[TheFarseer]

26. You mean covfefe table

Get it right

[usaf-vet]

32. He is better described by his more complete life record....

.... a multi-bankrupted coward, bone spurred chickenhawk and a chain liar who has been Impeached.

Nice record to hold if you are the mentally deranged loudmouth bully named Donald J. Trump.

[Botany]

4. " ... everybody else got the oil ... "

Does Trump even understand that it is illegal to steal another country's oil.

BTW This is a 100% Russia/Vlad talking point.

" ... he (Trump) said, and they (NATO) owed the United States a lot of money ..."

[CaptYossarian]

10. It's the most honest thing he's ever said. You didn't hear that from the

Cheney/Bush Administration.

[Botany]

11. For the 1st 6 months after Cheney invaded Iraq we pumped their oil non stop and it ...

... was not measured either. God only knows how much "they" stole.

[Thomas Hurt]

5. Just more evidence that Trump is a mentally unstable.

[DinahMoeHum]

6. It was at this meeting that Rex Tillerson. . .

. . .apparently referred to Trump as a "fucking moron"

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-called-his-generals-a-bunch-of-dopes-and-babies-in-a-fit-of-rage-book-claims

In his most incendiary comment, Trump—a man who, remember, managed to get out of military duty in Vietnam due to a supposed bone spur problem—is said to have told the assembled forces: “I wouldn’t go to war with you people... You’re a bunch of dopes and babies.”

The comment reportedly left the room dumbfounded. Tillerson was “visibly seething,” and decided to speak up. The secretary of state said: “No, that’s just wrong... Mr. President, you’re totally wrong. None of that is true.” When the meeting ended soon afterward, Tillerson reportedly stood with a small group of confidantes and said: “He’s a fucking moron.”

[yaesu]

8. It seems this corporate/Russian installed dictator can do, say anything he wants,

this information should have come out back in '17 during a news conference after they all resigned, but they didn't resign, they kept quiet, and this has happened far too often

[Delmette2.0]

12. Absolutely!

The world needs to hear about his temper tantrums, disrespecting competent people and illegal plans, especially when our top leaders resign.

[eyeofnewt]

9. Dopes and babies?

And properly admonished, I assume they stayed

[raccoon]

13. This from Captain Bone Spurs. Nt

[IronLionZion]

14. Vlad the invader would be happy to see the US pull out from NATO

when Putin goes on his next vacation to Europe, he might be in a tank

[Firestorm49]

15. Well, if anyone is an absolute authority on bankruptcy, it's what's his name.

[NoMoreRepugs]

16. How did the "collective they" let him live this long?

Talking about the military and the intelligence services.

[Farmer-Rick]

17. Then why isn't Traitor Trump collecting over $730 million from oil and gas corporations?

He's tough on the military but ignores how oil and gas corporations are stealing this country blind.

[duforsure]

18. He picks a fight by using insults

Then uses it to claim falsely something so he can replace them with someone who'll be more corrupt, so he can use the military as his personal weapon without anyone pushing back against it. Putin uses this tactic too, hmmmmm.

[lunatica]

37. Once he gets the military to do his bidding guess what he'll do?

He’ll use them against us. The man wants his Dictatorship. It’s his god given right. He’s chosen.

[Toorich]

22. Somebody needs to nut up....

...... vis a vis the 25th A.

[smirkymonkey]

23. I can't believe this draft-dodging, incompetent, coward has the nerve to speak to our generals

and other service people like that. If I had been them I would have got up and spat in his ugly orange face. He doesn't understand anything about anything. He is such a vile, worthless blob of flesh.

And so is every single person who voted for him and continues to support this stupid petty tyrant.

[llashram]

24. trump is and always has been

jealous of true warriors, even those who have had to make the ultimate sacrifice or have had family members do so. He is jealous of and hates vets because they remind him of what a snivelling little coward he is. Trump is a pitiful, pitiful little wannabe dictator. I wonder if he still has that copy of Mein Kampf on his night table by his bed?

[lunatica]

38. It's probably right next to that Purple Heart a veteran gave him

[brer cat]

25. That is a horrifying read.

Our pResident is a dangerous moron and no one can educate him.

[dlk]

27. More of Trump's projection

[no_hypocrisy]

28. Most generals are graduates of West Point Military Academy or

Virginia Military Institute, etc.

Trump was dumped in the New York Military School by his parents b/c Fred found a collection of jack-knives in his son's clothes dresser. And he didn't exactly make the Dean's List.

[G_j]

29. Once again, he describes himself

perfectly. Projecting much?

[PCIntern]

30. OMFG!!!!

Seditious, anti-American, unpatriotic, traitorous, and churlish.

[Wounded Bear]

31. Very Hitler-like...

except that Hitler actually served in the trenches in WWI.

[patphil]

34. This is Trump's style.

He wants to dominate everything. He will use ridicule, intimidation, threats, shouts, lies and half-truths...anything to bludgeon his adversaries into submission.
Actual truth is irrelevant to him. He lives in the realm of Trump Truth, where he decides what is true.
He gathers a group of enablers around him who defend and protect him; all the while implementing his will.

In ultimate terms, it is his enablers who empower him. Without them he is nothing more than a fat, old, self-absorbed blowhard.

Patrick Phillips

[dalton99a]

35. Kick

[gratuitous]

39. A little thought experiment

A Democrat says this to the military brass. Doesn't matter who, pick Obama or Biden or anyone you want. This story comes out, showcasing the absolute cluelessness of the Democrat on matters military, as well as the Democrat's disdain for the military. EVERY news report about that Democrat and his or her relationship with the military would reference this story, and the narrative of the antipathy if not outright animosity of the military toward said Democrat would be set in stone.

Think about Jane Fonda if you need a real life example.

Now, throw in the fact that neither Trump nor anyone in his family has ever served in the military. What would the media narrative be for a similarly-situated Democrat raging about the military not satisfactorily acting as a collections agent and railing at the officers that they're a bunch of dopes and babies? Compare your imagined narrative to how the media are treating this story about Trump, right now, in real time.

[spanone]

40. trump's legacy..."We should make money off of everything."

that's his foreign policy in a nutshell.

[colsohlibgal]

41. He Is One Sick Pseudo Almost Human

He acts like a low IQ 4th Grade brat. Spoiled beyond belief, and a serial liar. He lies then lies about the lies.

Nixon was one thing, this stupid would be tyrant is another. Nixon was twisted but smart Orange Creep is terminally stupid.

And Pence....supposedly a Devout Christian but supports this habitual liar, philanderer, tax cheat, golf cheat, etc. so Pence is a total hypocrite.

[Skittles]

42. can you imagine

hearing that from a five-time deferred Russian-backed piece of orange shit

[mnmoderatedem]

43. not a problem for trump though

he will show up at his next rally, wear a USA hat, hug a flag, and the crowd will gush over him as if he singlehandedly raised the flag at Iwo Jima.