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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 09:25 AM Jan 2020

He can be impeached again.

If McConnell and the Repubs refuse to permit witnesses in the impeachment trial and go on to acquit the Fat Nixon, there is nothing to prevent the House from impeaching him again.

Undoubtedly, more evidence will come forward in the weeks and months ahead. It will come out before the next election and could be devastating for Republicans. Better to take their medicine now and get it over with?

The more evidence that comes forward, the more difficult for Republicans to defend Donald Trump. That is what they have to look forward to.

A lot of the iceberg is still under the water.

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dem4decades

(11,304 posts)
1. When do they impeach Barr?
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 09:28 AM
Jan 2020

And this Administration will never provide documents, they're above the law. The Republic is slipping away.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
2. The political calculations have been pretty complex
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 09:46 AM
Jan 2020

I may not have necessarily agreed with the timing of the Articles (I would have preferred more investigations but that would not have changed the stonewalling) but I do understand where she is coming from.

In that light, I see this as brilliant politics on her part. Speaker Pelosi knows the lay of the land and knew full well that waiting on either passing the Articles or delivering them to the Senate would only make for talking points against Dems going into the election. That talking point is now gone. I also think she knew full well that there was more evidence that was being investigated and needed cooraboration/verification. The evidence that's been coming out over the last week I think is the fruit being born from those trees.

Impeachment has always will always be a political issue. She's boxed the Republicans in, especially Senate Republicans, to where no matter what they do, they'll get blowback from their constituents. No witnesses, why not? Are you afraid of the truth? Witnesses, the truth comes out and a vote not to remove from office would only reek of partisanship over country.

Every Republican is going to have to defend whatever decision they make.

Good luck, you'll need it.

lark

(23,155 posts)
3. Sorry, I just can't see that happening.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 09:51 AM
Jan 2020

this is our chance and probably our only chance and yes, it's a very thin one that we stand a good chance of losing due to Russian Repug Senators vile greed and not giving a shit about the country, only their own reelection with Russia's help. This is it for all intents and purposes - unless tape comes out of Vlad's ordering/blackmailing him to the detriment of our country & benefit of Russia & himself - for example - them talking about drumpf buying billions of $$ of Deripaska steel in exchange for the hacking of the 2016 election.

Yes, a lot of the iceberg is still under the water but this is the decision Speaker Pelosi made and now we have to live with it - barring unforseen,new and totally shocking revelations with total proof of drumpf criminality and traitorousness.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
4. Whatever revelations come forward....
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 10:01 AM
Jan 2020

...will be very difficult to defend just before an election, even if he is not impeached again.

still_one

(92,394 posts)
6. There won't be an impeachment redo before the 2020 election, and if we don't win in 2020
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 10:30 AM
Jan 2020

it won't mater

mopinko

(70,208 posts)
7. if they get the mueller report supporting docs, i predict a new article.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 10:39 AM
Jan 2020

i suspect that sucker is half written in nadler's drawer, but waiting for the evidence.
esp of obstruction.

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
10. That's fine - and may well be where we're headed.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 11:25 AM
Jan 2020

McConnell would be fearful of that possibility - no matter how they'd try to spin it as a positive for the Orange Emperor.

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