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(1,733 posts)dawg day
(7,947 posts)I believe other impeachables can be indicted first.
The Agnew (VP) situation kind of dodged this because the deal was made that he would (I think this was the sequence) resign, be indicted, take a plea agreement all in about 2 seconds.
A couple US federal judges (Kerner and Hastings?) were indicted before being impeached: https://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/uflr35&div=26&id=&page=
I don't know about cabinet officers like Barr. A couple of Nixon's AGs were indicted, but I think they'd resigned first.
BKDem
(1,733 posts)The Agnew deal was brilliantly (and quickly) engineered by Eliot Richardson. Rachel Maddow laid it all out in her podcast, Bagman.
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bluestarone
(16,976 posts)I hope someone can!
magicarpet
(14,155 posts)CurtEastPoint
(18,650 posts)Courts have recognized that the House and Senate each have the authority to enforce their orders by imprisoning those who violate themliterally. They can direct their respective sergeant at arms to arrest officials theyve found to be in contempt and bring them to the Capitol for trial and, potentially, jail. Congress hasnt invoked whats known as the power of inherent contempt in nearly a century, but the escalating clash between two co-equal branches of government has Democrats talking about moves previously deemed unthinkable.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/05/house-democrats-could-arrest-william-barr-contempt/588976/
Wawannabe
(5,661 posts)Thanks! Arrest that SOB
malaise
(269,054 posts)Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)He committed a felony in front of cop in DC I suppose he would arrested...maybe.
unblock
(52,253 posts)i'll grant that there's a feeble case to be made that perhaps a sitting president might be immune from prosecution.
but even that is many steps removed from saying an attorney general can't even be arrested.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)he could be de facto immune.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,734 posts)If he did something that was a felony in that jurisdiction, the local police could arrest him. He's not immune from prosecution, though he'd probably be able to weasel out of being charged with a federal crime. If he murdered someone, that's a state crime and he could be arrested and prosecuted by police and prosecutors in that state.
hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)He has no formal power over state authorities IF the issue were a violation of state law. Meaning if he drinks and drives, any state police officer or local police could arrest him for example.
Theoretically, any Deputy AG could go to a court and convene a Grand Jury for breaches of Federal law in their jurisdiction or impacting their jurisdiction. A ballsy step but theoretically it could happen. Once a Grand jury indicts or by order of a Federal Judge, Federal Marshalls certainly could be ordered to arrest him.
But, as the saying goes, (Ralph Waldo Emerson requoted to great effect by Omar in "the Wire" ), "You come at the king, you best not miss." This would be career-ending in nearly all cases, which is why impeachment, removal, and then prosecution is the expected course.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,349 posts)Dirty Bill Barr has no immunity.
https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-procedure/citizen-s-arrest.html
Bonx
(2,053 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,349 posts)Best be sure of the accusation and then walk calmly, without aggression.