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Very serious question - who can arrest (Original Post) malaise Jan 2020 OP
No one, unless he is impeached and removed. BKDem Jan 2020 #1
I think only the president can't be indicted-- and that's just by DOJ fiat, actually, and only fed dawg day Jan 2020 #7
I think you're right. BKDem Jan 2020 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jan 2020 #17
Not sure BUT bluestarone Jan 2020 #2
US Marshals via a court order by a federal judge ? magicarpet Jan 2020 #3
here CurtEastPoint Jan 2020 #4
Good info! Wawannabe Jan 2020 #15
Thanks malaise Jan 2020 #16
AFAIK, he has to be impeached like Commander Bedbug. Thomas Hurt Jan 2020 #5
ridiculous. attorneys general are not immune from arrest. unblock Jan 2020 #9
He may not be immune from arrest but given his power and any possible corruption... Thomas Hurt Jan 2020 #12
Depends on where he was and what he did. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #6
I know you are asking about Federal crimes, but important to note... hlthe2b Jan 2020 #8
make a citizen's arrest ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #10
Just run up to him and do it? I wonder how that would play out. Bonx Jan 2020 #13
"run" might get a bad response from security ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #14

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
7. I think only the president can't be indicted-- and that's just by DOJ fiat, actually, and only fed
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:53 PM
Jan 2020

I believe other impeachables can be indicted first.

The Agnew (VP) situation kind of dodged this because the deal was made that he would (I think this was the sequence) resign, be indicted, take a plea agreement all in about 2 seconds.

A couple US federal judges (Kerner and Hastings?) were indicted before being impeached: https://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/uflr35&div=26&id=&page=

I don't know about cabinet officers like Barr. A couple of Nixon's AGs were indicted, but I think they'd resigned first.

BKDem

(1,733 posts)
11. I think you're right.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 01:04 PM
Jan 2020

The Agnew deal was brilliantly (and quickly) engineered by Eliot Richardson. Rachel Maddow laid it all out in her podcast, Bagman.

Response to BKDem (Reply #1)

CurtEastPoint

(18,650 posts)
4. here
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:46 PM
Jan 2020
Courts have recognized that the House and Senate each have the authority to enforce their orders by imprisoning those who violate them—literally. They can direct their respective sergeant at arms to arrest officials they’ve found to be in contempt and bring them to the Capitol for trial and, potentially, jail. Congress hasn’t invoked what’s known as the “power of inherent contempt” in nearly a century, but the escalating clash between two co-equal branches of government has Democrats talking about moves previously deemed unthinkable.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/05/house-democrats-could-arrest-william-barr-contempt/588976/

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
5. AFAIK, he has to be impeached like Commander Bedbug.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:46 PM
Jan 2020

He committed a felony in front of cop in DC I suppose he would arrested...maybe.

unblock

(52,253 posts)
9. ridiculous. attorneys general are not immune from arrest.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:54 PM
Jan 2020

i'll grant that there's a feeble case to be made that perhaps a sitting president might be immune from prosecution.

but even that is many steps removed from saying an attorney general can't even be arrested.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
12. He may not be immune from arrest but given his power and any possible corruption...
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 01:24 PM
Jan 2020

he could be de facto immune.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,734 posts)
6. Depends on where he was and what he did.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:51 PM
Jan 2020

If he did something that was a felony in that jurisdiction, the local police could arrest him. He's not immune from prosecution, though he'd probably be able to weasel out of being charged with a federal crime. If he murdered someone, that's a state crime and he could be arrested and prosecuted by police and prosecutors in that state.

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
8. I know you are asking about Federal crimes, but important to note...
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:54 PM
Jan 2020

He has no formal power over state authorities IF the issue were a violation of state law. Meaning if he drinks and drives, any state police officer or local police could arrest him for example.

Theoretically, any Deputy AG could go to a court and convene a Grand Jury for breaches of Federal law in their jurisdiction or impacting their jurisdiction. A ballsy step but theoretically it could happen. Once a Grand jury indicts or by order of a Federal Judge, Federal Marshalls certainly could be ordered to arrest him.

But, as the saying goes, (Ralph Waldo Emerson requoted to great effect by Omar in "the Wire" ), "You come at the king, you best not miss." This would be career-ending in nearly all cases, which is why impeachment, removal, and then prosecution is the expected course.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
14. "run" might get a bad response from security ...
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 01:59 PM
Jan 2020

Best be sure of the accusation and then walk calmly, without aggression.

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