Maddow-Parnas interview Manafort Black Ledger? help

[Midnight Writer]

That intrigued me, but I didn't hear any follow up.

Anyone here who can enlighten me?

[jberryhill]

1. The black ledger

Was a record of payments made by the former pro-Russia Ukraine leader to Paul Manafort.

Interestingly, it wasn’t used in the prosecution of Manafort, which was based on his receipt and use of the money in the US.

[Midnight Writer]

2. Thank you. "It wasn't used"? Do we have it in our possession?

Wondering what Rudy's interest is?

Is he trying to hide it?

Or does he want to use it?

Just typing out loud. I'm not familiar with this story.

[leftieNanner]

5. I think Rudy and trump

Want to find a way to plausibly pardon Manafort so they are trying to make him look innocent.

[MaryMagdaline]

3. Trump and Rudy are obsessed with proving that the

Ledger was fraudulent and that someone framed Manafort. Supposedly they accused our ambassador of releasing this false book to the authorities. It’s a little hard to follow because it’s totally false. The book showed the millions paid by yanukovich o Manafort and was legit evidence.

Google Manafort and ledger for up-to-date conspiracies

[Midnight Writer]

4. Thank you. Very useful.

[Hekate]

6. Back when Trump was campaigning for president & Manafort popped up to manage it "for free"...

... RachelMaddow (again, yes, her) did some in depth research and reporting on who the hell this Manafort guy was. Here are key things I remember (and I'm sure you can look up details)

* Ukraine: Manafort worked there cleaning up the reputations of criminal oligarchs and criminal politicians
* Corruption
* Overthrow of Ukranian government
* Some bigwig's dacha (can't recall who) was raided, sacked, and pillaged and all kinds of paperwork destroyed by being thrown in the ornamental pond
* Someone salvaged a lot of that wet paper, including a large black ledger, which I think was handwritten, and went back years and years
* Manafort's name appeared many times, in connection with the transfer of fabulous sums of money. Money flowed through his hands and into his pockets -- he lived high -- but somehow he ended up owing $20 million to (Putin? Or just a close associate of Putin's)
* He was persuaded to to manage the Trump presidential campaign, and in an email we have seen promised to "make it whole," that is pay back his lender
* He engineered Trump's choice of Pence
* During the Republican Convention, he waltzed in and rewrote the platform policy on.... Ukraine

This was just some project that Rachel got to working on, a mystery without a resolution at that time. And now, here we are.

[Midnight Writer]

7. One thing after another and another. I hope it all comes out.

[intrepidity]

8. My take

One of Rudy's tasks was to discredit the little black book, which helped the Feds finger Manafort. But, they didn't need to use the book as evidence, since Manafort's own records did the job (accounting).

Casting doubt on the black ledger's provenance was the best Trump could come up with as a possible future excuse to pardon Manafort (as if he needs an excuse).

[Midnight Writer]

9. So this book is under wraps. And TeamTrump wants it discredited. Wonder what else is in it?

[mitch96]

10. I believe it was Derapaska who Manafort owed the money too

He got on the prez election team to get information and make things between D'paska and M'fort
"whole again"...
Yes the Derapaska who just opened a aluminum plant in MoskoMitch's state of Kentucky...
Yes the derapaska who could not come into the US that "automagically" is now let in...Humm
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[Midnight Writer]

11. What a hole full of worms. They're all tangled up together.

[mitch96]

12. "Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!" nt