This Maddow interview of Lev Parnas is historic.

[phleshdef]

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Dude is spilling. Laying the whole thing out. And Rachel is piecing it together perfectly with her questioning.

[blm]

1. Most def

[still_one]

2. Yes

[CatWoman]

3. my fucking head is about to explode

lol

[Johnny2X2X]

6. Mine too

Not only because of what he’s saying, but also because I know the GOP still won’t do a damned thing about Trump.

[Lonestarblue]

66. You're right.

They’ll say that Trump did some stuff that showed poor judgment, but that’s not an impeachable offense. Since we have a party and legal system that serves only Donald Trump, we will have to rely on journalists to dig up the evidence to finally convince people that Trump is s corrupt as they come and he needs to be forced to quit, just as Nixon finally did.

[phleshdef]

10. LOL, I censored my OP title, I was about to say just that, more or less.

[CatWoman]

54. LOL

[babylonsister]

23. And our heads are already overloaded.

[CatWoman]

56. I don't think I will be able to sleep tonite

and you know Lawrence will be on a tear!

[babylonsister]

62. I sometimes tune in to

Don Lemon's hour on cnn. I don't like LO's tease to stay til the end. Just talk, dude.

[DENVERPOPS]

78. CW, your head....

I think the entire Republican parties heads are exploding....LOL

Can’t wait to see Trump’s morning potty tweets.........

If I were his handlers I would take away his cellphone starting tonight.
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(And the “football”)........

[CatWoman]

79. BWAHAHAHAHA

i can't wait!

[canetoad]

4. Watching right now

I think Lev is pissed that Trump denied knowing him.

[nolabear]

9. I think he was afraid they were going to kill him.

And I wouldn’t blame him.

[canetoad]

13. That too

This going public, I think, is Lev's self preservation instinct kicking in.

[babylonsister]

29. Hey, are you watching live, canetoad?

Of course you are!

[canetoad]

32. Found a bootleg link

To MSNBC live. Engrossing, mind-blowing, terrifying.

Sis, with all my heart I hope you are rid of this gangster/bully/fraud/liar soon.

[babylonsister]

37. Wild stuff going on, and thank you

for that sentiment, my dear. I hope we all are done with him, the sooner the better. What a POS, always has been.

So, I suppose the rethugs will do the right thing and stand by their man?!

[canetoad]

48. The events of the past couple of days

I can't decide whether they were guided by the Speaker, or she took an advantageous set of circumstances and let them play out.
Either way, this is on the boil and will make the repugs look even more crooked and irrational if they don't take it seriously.

[babylonsister]

65. Yay for rethugs' discomfort.

Can't wait to see how they'll react.


OT, but is this true? Looks like a horrid site.

News
Wombats are the heroes of the Australian fires, sheltering animals in their burrows

https://matadornetwork.com/read/wombats-sheltering-animals-burrows-australian-fires/?fbclid=IwAR1rkTB55D-2ftGjpksC5M-4037vbjZlYo9fTC38R-Bc1w_c1L63CciJ7Rk

[canetoad]

68. Wombat burrows are like big underground rooms

I've come across a few old ones, where the earth above has collapsed.

They have an entrance tunnel of maybe a metre or so long, then at an angle to the tunnel, the actual living space which is about a metre square for a grown wombat. Wombats are quite big; image something almost labrador-sized but with short legs.

A wombat hole would be a great shelter, I doubt if the wombat actually invites other critters in, but sheer terror would likely help them get along for the crisis.

Wombats are generally bulky and slow but I've seen them run like the wind when scared. They are peaceable vegetarians whose only defense mechanism is to use their bulk to crush interlopers against the roof of their burrows.

[babylonsister]

75. And now I'm in love with wombats!

They can get huge so their homes must be huge. Thanks for that background.

[MerryBlooms]

47. I agree and I think his lawyer/families/etc... have all been threatened

from many sources, including the US. I think this interview is self preservation and protection.

[womanofthehills]

59. I bet the judge did not put him in jail because of the Epstein thing

He probably has mega protection security at his house. He and his wife share 5 kids.

[crickets]

73. Self preservation, avoiding being the scapegoat, and getting a little payback

for the "I don't know this man" BS from Trump.

I still don't like the man, but I am glad he's turned on everybody and decided to sing, sing, sing.

[wnylib]

80. I wonder if he's really safe by talking. Isn't

there also a risk of being killed as vengeance for talking? Not now, but in time when things cool down and this is no longer in the news cycle?

[Eyeball_Kid]

85. Lev likely took note when Epstein couldn't stop himself from suiciding.

You never know when the mood will hit you, eh? Like, in the middle of the night with a wire pulled around your neck.

[duforsure]

96. I suspect he has knowledge about that also,

And what really happened to Epstein. Very likely why he did this interview. He knows he'll be in putin and trumps discussion very soon, and knows what they might do to him. Watch how quickly trump falsely accuses him , and threatens him , and uses Barr to go after him too.

[calimary]

103. This.

“He’s going to go through some things.” The new version.

Yep.

[Time2Breathe70]

46. And that he thinks he is the scapegoat-in-waiting...

sounds like something Ghouliani's buddy would think about....

[Amaryllis]

5. Her voluminous background on all this alllows her to do that. SHe is PERFECT for this task.

[Johnny2X2X]

8. I wish she talked less for this

I love her, but I think her explaining everything between short segments takes away from the interview. Just air the interview and then talk about it afterwards.

[phleshdef]

15. I think it actually helpful for a wider audience.

Its very "60 Minutes" like in some ways, lol.

[Upthevibe]

39. I completely agree....

I find the way she's laying this out very, very helpful.

[Amaryllis]

19. I have to remind myself that she does it for the people who aren't nearly as knowledgeable as we a

and in that respect, it's a great service to bring those along so they understand what a big deal this is and will be more inclined to get behind impeachment. There are many who tune into RAchel irregularly.

[Johnny2X2X]

28. It sounds condescending

Like she has to explain everything to everyone. Air the interview and then do all of this after.

[Upthevibe]

44. Well, I don't feel she's being

condescending. I'm a college graduate and am a professional. This can be so convoluted. If she were to do all of this afterwards, she'd have to incorporate a whole new process (editing)….It makes no sense to me that she would do it any other way.

[Upthevibe]

35. I disagree. It's very helpful to me that she explaining things as we go...

It's not like she was interviewing him then leaves him and goes back to him then leaves him, etc. (and I, of course, know that isn't what you mean). I actually need her to explain and put everything into context as we go along.

[Johnny2X2X]

38. This is a historic interview

This broadcast is going to be aired over and over. It’s mostly Rachel Maddow explaining things. People are going to take that as her spinning things.

This is a massive story, just present the interview.

[getagrip_already]

7. and it sounds like more to come tomorrow....

She basically said they had some information to vette, probably sensitive and they don't want it blow up in their face.

[doc03]

11. I was expecting a thug with a heavy Russian accent but he sounds

like just an average American citizen. Very creditable. Trouble is none of the Trump supporters will ever hear this.

[spooky3]

17. Agree. I looked up his wiki page. He's been in the US since age 3. Nt

[phleshdef]

20. He sounds like a dude from New York to me.

[Amaryllis]

27. It helps so much when they come across credibly. Unlike Jordan and Nunes.

[rzemanfl]

52. Me 2. n/t

[mnmoderatedem]

91. no Russian accent?

hell he speaks English far better than trump does

[treestar]

99. In the US since age 3

I was surprised by that too; did not know much about him.

[dweller]

12. Bolton is going to need to testify

sooner the better

✌🏼

[dhill926]

21. yes....

[Arazi]

72. Or just go on a credible news show and tell the truth. Now. Immediately

#DontBeACoward

[Warpy]

93. Don't get your hopes up too high

Remember, he's a party loyalist, a real company man, and he's got a book to flog. That's what this is about, not ratting out his former boss or current cronies.

If he had anything legitimate to say, he'd already have said it to the House committees. He didn't, so the best we can expect from him is grandstanding and personal gain.

[material_highlighter]

94. agreed

I generally think no good comes from Bolton testifying in an open session live on TV.

[oasis]

14. Rachel's show repeats at 9:00 pacific time. Blockbuster revelations. nt

[TruckFump]

40. I record Rachel every day.

Watching now, but will watch it on DVR later so I can pause and replay certain parts.

This is an amazing interview.

[oasis]

49. It's highly likely MSNBC will repeat it on Saturday. They usually

rebroadcast their Friday night lineups.

This is huge.

[TruckFump]

50. Yes. They re-broadcast most of the week day later-in-the-day programs.

This interview tonight by Rachel is one I am going to save.

[yellowdogintexas]

92. Don't forget Rachel also has a podcast

I'll be listening to it tomorrow

[Grammy23]

16. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and predict

We’ll hear from tRump. Any guesses on what name he’ll call what’shisface? You know. The guy he doesn’t know.

[nolabear]

18. I could NOT be happier about him dragging on Pence.

[onecent]

33. Yes I could not be happier......

I don't like Pence AT ALL!!

[Karma13612]

22. This is nuclear

And Rachel is just fabulous. This makes up for last night’s debate debacle on CNN.

[ALBliberal]

24. I know he's a crook but like Cohen Lev Parnas is

Coming across as credible. Comes across as a man that is tired of being thrown under the bus. And like Cohen he has “receipts”.

[jimlup]

25. Sorry to be a downer but ...

The Repukes won't be swayed and the will still vote to suppress and acquit because well, unlike people with morals and values they have none.

We won't get out of this Orange cluster f$@* until November and then only if we work like hell to get it done.

[texasfiddler]

43. What you say is true

However, this is still very damning and historic.

[uponit7771]

86. +1, Collins words tonight are the biggest indicator they're going to shut things down quickly

[DesertRat]

26. Pence was in on it too

Hello #PresidentPelosi

[redstateblues]

30. Glad to hear it. It won't change anything though

We have to vote Trump out

[Mersky]

31. Truly is historic.

[theglammistress]

34. There were all in on it.

All of them.

Crooks. The entire lot.

[C_U_L8R]

36. Lev's lawyer

That guy has the steadiest stare I've seen.

And yeah, this is devastating. Dev-a-sta-ting !

[bucolic_frolic]

41. Yes, agree, this is a very big interview

What did the President know, and when did he know it. He's spilling all the beans.

[nolabear]

42. Barr. Was. Part. Of. The. Team.

Yes he was.

[Kingofalldems]

45. Kick and rec for the gatekeepers.

[Mersky]

51. Another quid pro quo with Firtash

Would ‘take care’ of his extradition case if he provided dirt

[muntrv]

53. "A.G. Barr was basically on the team."

[sarcasmo]

55. Pence must be crying on Mother's lap.

[CatWoman]

58. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

too funny!!!!

[Captain Zero]

57. But Parnas lends no credibility to Robert Hyde does he?

Laughs at him. Calls him out for being drunk all the time. That takes away major support leg for the credibility of the threat to Yovanovich, it seems to me. I even got the feeling this is his purpose for spilling so much, to do this discrediting of Hyde. Republicans are going to try to latch onto this. Imho.

[Catherine Vincent]

60. I think that lawyer is an android

[napi21]

63. He sute enough is the quietest lawyer I've ever seen! n/t

[Marie Marie]

70. Yes, definitely Android-like...

He just kept staring at Rachel and never blinked. It was kind a creepy.

[napi21]

61. NUNES in on it too! Gheesh I knew DT was a crook from NYC, but damn! He's International!!!

I guess we all know now why DT wants a quick & dirty hearig in the Senate & close the book on this mess.

[Traildogbob]

67. Nunes on Fox

Saw a clip today on Randi Rhoads, I believe was last night, that Ingrahan had Nunes on to discuss all these documents. Both should be tried as traitors and lying propagandist out to destroy our country. Putin puppets, with Fox in control of the strings. Lock Em Up!

[nolabear]

64. OMG there's a Part II.

Let the freaking out begin!

[napi21]

71. HA! DT had trouble sleeping before, he's gonna be awake for a damn eek after this comes out! nt

[mia]

69. Headline out of this, according to Maddow, is the involvement of Mike Pence.

Also, Parnas believes that the more he makes public the safer he is.

[mcar]

74. It was incredible

It put it all together.

[VOX]

76. If only the Republican Party had a conscience to feel ashamed and do the right thing.

Sadly, they don’t. They’ve declared their own reality, and, in their delusional “thinking,” they are digging in deeper with Trump. They’ve had a taste of fascism, and they love it.

GOTV 2020, especially in the dozen swing states, where historic Democratic voter turnout will be crucial: Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin.

That’s how to get these assholes OUT of the driver’s seat.

[gab13by13]

77. He told Rachel his reason for talking,

he doesn't want to be Epsteined.

[ffr]

81. Take 'em down. Take them all down now!

Arrest the Impreached President and call Vice President Pence and Pompeo to testify. Have a seat over there.

[UCmeNdc]

82. Trump Knew!

[MarkCross7]

83. Why Didn't they Hold the Impeachment Articles for this Evidence?

The case is so much stronger with this. I don't understand why they did hold the impeachment articles and new hearing to added evidence.

[bucolic_frolic]

98. Rachel hinted that getting this interview was in development for a long time, since early November

So the House didn't know what Parnas woud say, or if he would even talk, or even if he had anything to say. She indicated the decision was made very recently by Mr. Parnas for his own safety, that the information is better in public.

A lot of the interview needs to be corroborated with other witnesses. He was very certain about the relationships involved and heard parts of conversations on speakerphones, but some is not direct first hand evidence.

[catbyte]

84. It's just too bad it won't make a damn bit of difference. The fix is in. All we can do is work like

hell to flip the Senate and keep the House. And, of course, take back the White House.

[Eyeball_Kid]

88. If the Senate acquits,

nothing will matter after that. Trump will fix the election or cancel it, depending on what works best for him. After acquittal, he'll know that he can't be removed for any crime he commits, no matter how many times he's impeached. It also means he can permanently withhold witnesses and documents from Congress, he can ignore Court Orders, he can make up his own laws, and he can completely ignore the Legislative and Judicial Branches. He will be able to exact revenge on anyone he wishes with no repercussions. He can murder and steal. No consequences. He is the head of the Church of Trump, he is infallible, and he will destroy anyone who challenges him.

The coming scheduled election might or might not come to pass. Do not expect it. The best opportunity to stop the anarchy is to extend the trial for as long as possible and present as much evidence as possible, until the public is decidedly certain that he's got to go, and THEY threaten the GOP to vote for removal or face massive civil unrest. But... sorry, waiting for the next election, IMO, will be one wait too late.

[catbyte]

89. Well, if that's the case, there is no hope because there's no way in hell the Senate is going to

convict and mcconnell isn't going to allow witnesses or if he has to fake it, he won't allow many. Our only hope is that the military threatens that thing currently infesting the White House because I don't believe the military would obey orders to fire on us, which is what they would have to do if that thing cancels the elections.

[material_highlighter]

95. we are on the path to kleptocracy,

agree with all your points. the USA will official become an authoritarian state should Mr. Trump not be removed from office. Full stop.

the crimes are too glaring, the evidence overwhelming. Yale historian Timothy Snyder was one of the few people to call Mr. Trump out for what he was in 2016/7. Mr. Snyder's two books On Tyranny and The Road to Unfreedom are well worth reading.

Masha Gessen wrote an elegant synopsis early last year as to the name of what's going on here:



https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-trump-russia-investigation-and-the-mafia-state/amp

[kacekwl]

87. Definitely award winning stuff.

How can this not sink the Republican / trump ship?

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

90. As much as I've long thought Trump was a despicable, crooked creep,

learning about the sleazy criminal crowd (including Republican congressmen hanging around his properties) he associates with is still shocking.

[bucolic_frolic]

97. Despite Parnas' interview

and belief Mr. Hyde was basically joking in texts about the ambassador (shall we call it international fantasy swatting?), someone in Washington in presumably the State Department, got wind of it and tipped off the ambassador which led to her abrupt departure. Is that basically the story thus far?

So it just seems there is more to this than texts bandied about over the course of a week. Something was afoot, and Pompeo/Trump are all trying to cover something up.

[Vinca]

100. That was one of the best interviews I've ever seen aired anywhere.

She was really "on" last night and got a whole lot of valuable information out of Lev.

[Pacifist Patriot]

101. I'm sorry I missed it.

Had to take a muscle relaxer for my back and was asleep by 8:30.

[Gothmog]

102. It was an amazing interview

[berksdem]

104. it was an incredible interview...

but, this changes nothing. The Orange Blob needs to be voted out of office. The reThugs will make all of this go away.

[Chakaconcarne]

105. and there's a part two.....

[7wo7rees]

106. I don't find his hair credible.

But everything else checks out. Nothing nutty about his delivery or story.

He sounds like a stool pigeon ratting on a crime boss to avoid a severe penalty. Which he is.

Hope he finds a new barber in prison.