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kpete

(72,022 posts)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:50 AM Jan 2020

Wow! So proof of Trump's guilt doesn't matter because the Republicans already know he's guilty!

Brit Hume says that even if John Bolton testifies that Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to pressure them into investigating Biden, it doesn’t add anything because most Republicans already believe that’s what happened even though they won’t say that


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WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
2. Oh they definitely know he's guilty...
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:57 AM
Jan 2020

The vast majority of them are just so incredibly lacking in any real ethics and morality that they truly don't care (and won't unless it hits their or their 'owners' bottom line and/or threatens their power, HARD.)

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
16. After yesterday's finding from Parnas I am convinced GOP members have been threatened
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:35 PM
Jan 2020

They and their families.

We have a mafia administration where people are getting threatened and I believe that what happened to Epstein has scared them even more. Epstein was a double-whammy, they got rid of the guy who knew too much, and served as a warning to all those around the con to make sure they stay in line.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
3. And they don't care . . .
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:59 AM
Jan 2020


Nevertheless, harassment of USA's Ambassador is dangerous . . . and Pompeo was also involved along with t-rump because they wanted "dirt" on an American citizen's son (VP Biden who is running for president of the USA).

debsy

(530 posts)
4. Exactly. They are all at least complicit in the crime.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 10:38 AM
Jan 2020

I personally have always believed that some, if not many, GOP'ers are active participants in the crime including Mitch McConnell, Bill Barr, and anyone else who has been "honored" to server "at the pleasure of" DJDumpster. And now, thanks to Lev's doc dump, we know that Rob Hynd of Simsbury, CT, was actively involved in what may have been an active plan to assassinate a sitting ambassador.

Texin

(2,599 posts)
5. The business about 'surveilling' Yovanovitch and Hyde's remark about
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 10:47 AM
Jan 2020

money 'buying' anything in Ukraine can leave no other impression with any sentient being than he was dangling out the possibility of a hit on the Ambassador. He can try to grovel and dissemble his way out of what he said - and his statements are reviewable through his text messages, and I'm sure there's an audio extant of his phone on record with conversations with multiple intelligence services, probably including those of the United States.

Is there really anyone out there who actually believe these were the words of an inebriated tRump acolyte? This guy seems to have been working in concert with both Giuliani and Parnas, and whoever else these two had at their beck and call in this matter. While I don't doubt he boozes it up, these were not the words of some confabulating drunk. He's too close to the nexus of the plot to take Yovaovitch down. And tRump knew about it, and he can try to deny *knowing* Hyde, but photographic evidence disproves that. Multiple times in Parnas's case, which is probably true of Hyde as well. It's just a matter of time before we learn and see the evidence of it. tRump sanctioned the probable assassination of a U.S. ambassador to pave the way - or so it appears. We KNOW he does it. He greenlit the hit on Suleimani seven months ago. Seven months ago. That totally blows up any argument that there was an 'imminent' threat to the U.S. You can't put out a hit on a target seven months in advance of it being carried out and then cry, "imminent threat!"

usaf-vet

(6,212 posts)
7. Brit Hume should be smart enough to realize Bolton testimony is for the public benefit.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:29 AM
Jan 2020

Applying sunlight to the Trump Lies.

And of course, Brit Hume DOES realize why. Why? Because Bolton's testimony is so dangerous to Trump.

thesquanderer

(11,993 posts)
14. Exactly. It's not about convincing Republicans. It's about convincing the public,
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:07 PM
Jan 2020

and removing every last shred of deniability the Republicans try to hide behind.

Mopar151

(9,999 posts)
11. They are afraid of revenge
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:04 PM
Jan 2020

from their "owners", the RW Oligarchs. The "Norquist Rule" is still in full effect. (Dissent? Time to be "primaried"!) Any of the sheep that do not follow the herd closely, are slaughtered!

dlk

(11,578 posts)
9. The horrifying fact is Republicans already know Trump is guilty and really don't care
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:50 AM
Jan 2020

Our democracy is hanging on by a thread.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
10. of course they know what happened.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:57 AM
Jan 2020

they don't care. not about the constitution, not about their constituents, not about the country. motherfuckers.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
13. Usually a patient that has a history of multiple, repeat obstructions
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:05 PM
Jan 2020

Must undergo some radical procedures to get the plumbing moving again.
For the time being though, baking enough cake to serve all the Repugnants a nice, beautiful slice of enjoyable chocolate cake, will definitely call for every toilet in their mansions to be flushed at least 15 times, several cans of Lysol.
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Make certain there's enough left over for every nutjob over at Fux Noise as well.

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