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He ordered the hit---I mean he ordered the HIT on an AMERICAN (Original Post) demtenjeep Jan 2020 OP
I agree Johnny2X2X Jan 2020 #1
Context. MineralMan Jan 2020 #2
reference to the Lev Parnas texts/letter released today Takket Jan 2020 #3
Here: madaboutharry Jan 2020 #4
Thanks. MineralMan Jan 2020 #5
It certainly sounds like it. I remember one of the witnesses in the House hearing doc03 Jan 2020 #6
That's what The Orange One said! leftieNanner Jan 2020 #8
And this criminal SOB will stay in office and maybe get doc03 Jan 2020 #11
If he is reelected leftieNanner Jan 2020 #12
If that happens... Newest Reality Jan 2020 #25
No, I think this is it...lets put our brains together Perseus Jan 2020 #32
Apparently the Russian mob is far more brutal than the mafia -- at least according to Craig Unger diva77 Jan 2020 #26
That was a part of Sixty Minutes decades ago... czarjak Jan 2020 #41
The Russian bdamomma Jan 2020 #57
It was a Malaysian plane greenjar_01 Jan 2020 #65
When bdamomma Jan 2020 #52
Twitter reply: Rhiannon12866 Jan 2020 #54
That makes me feel sick to my stomach. smirkymonkey Jan 2020 #73
I thought that may be the case, when they needed to get her out immediately. dewsgirl Jan 2020 #7
What will Moscow Mitch do with this information? leftieNanner Jan 2020 #9
I don't know, this can't be just swept under the rug. I know dewsgirl Jan 2020 #14
I know they'll spin it Johnny2X2X Jan 2020 #17
I'm pretty desensitized from following this mess as closely as I do, dewsgirl Jan 2020 #19
Why else would they follow her every move? world wide wally Jan 2020 #39
Batshit Crazy times Infinity! leftieNanner Jan 2020 #18
he will ignore it... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #76
Sure sounds like it! 2naSalit Jan 2020 #10
Yes they say this is just the tip of the iceberg nt doc03 Jan 2020 #13
But wait! There's more! TheBlackAdder Jan 2020 #28
I love the church lady...especially the Stephen King misery one... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #50
Link? Please? yardwork Jan 2020 #15
Here. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #21
Thank you! yardwork Jan 2020 #40
Best I could do. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #44
We can't wait for elections. OliverQ Jan 2020 #16
Hmmm. I wonder if this is why leftieNanner Jan 2020 #20
And don't forget Barr ... just ordered no investigations Greywing Jan 2020 #22
Of course. (I saw that) triron Jan 2020 #24
timely, eh nt Grasswire2 Jan 2020 #31
Not sure anymore. We live inside a lunatic asylum. eos triron Jan 2020 #23
I admit that I've been questioning my own sanity for the past year or so Greywing Jan 2020 #27
Unless there is proof that Trump supported a hit it doesn't matter if underlings discussed it. Kablooie Jan 2020 #29
Rudy mgardener Jan 2020 #43
What he did with biden is enough to get him convicted if this was an honest Senate...but in Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #48
Agreed Bayard Jan 2020 #70
can't wait for election 2020 Grasswire2 Jan 2020 #30
I would be happy to get him out... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #49
I don't know guys Catherine Vincent Jan 2020 #33
Recall that he could "shoot someone on 5th Ave and not lose any supporters." OMGWTF Jan 2020 #34
Now that I agree. nt Catherine Vincent Jan 2020 #35
I'm sure he has no problem with ordering a hit but the repuke from Connecticut yaesu Jan 2020 #36
I'm with you on this. Ilsa Jan 2020 #45
Seems awfully specific, though greenjar_01 Jan 2020 #68
That seems to be the story they're going with, anyway greenjar_01 Jan 2020 #67
I believe that the Mad King absolutely would have someone killed, & indeed he just did... Hekate Jan 2020 #42
Hes a psychopath jcgoldie Jan 2020 #46
He has no regard for anybody but himself. mgardener Jan 2020 #47
Are you kidding me? A casino owning, money laundering mob boss wouldn't put a hit out on someone? MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #56
Jeffrey Epstein bdamomma Jan 2020 #59
+1 MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #60
How about the Deutsche Bank employee who just "killed himself"? sellitman Jan 2020 #79
Gen. Qassem Soleimani might disagree...... lastlib Jan 2020 #62
Good Lord! greenjar_01 Jan 2020 #66
Are you serious? smirkymonkey Jan 2020 #74
+1000 triron Jan 2020 #77
It only takes a hundred brain cells to connect these dots. world wide wally Jan 2020 #37
Media doesn't have that many. triron Jan 2020 #63
Media has fired Bluedolphin1406 Jan 2020 #75
If she was a really bad person, I've heard that that's okay gratuitous Jan 2020 #38
I despise him more than anyone in the world. smirkymonkey Jan 2020 #51
K&R⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ spanone Jan 2020 #53
Twitter reply: Rhiannon12866 Jan 2020 #55
Makes no difference. This is probably only the tip, but nobody will do anything about it. Doodley Jan 2020 #58
And the MAGAts will love it. Zolorp Jan 2020 #61
This whole thing is making me wonder, what may have happened with Mueller? dewsgirl Jan 2020 #64
And I always thought Coats exit was swift, quiet, hurried and he got out with his lips sealed and Captain Zero Jan 2020 #71
I am ashamed demtenjeep Jan 2020 #69
I firmly believe FormerOstrich Jan 2020 #72
They were actually considering murdering an American Ambassador! What else is Trump doing? UCmeNdc Jan 2020 #78

doc03

(35,378 posts)
6. It certainly sounds like it. I remember one of the witnesses in the House hearing
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:19 PM
Jan 2020

saying she had to get out of Ukraine because things could happen. Sounded like something out of the Godfather movie.

leftieNanner

(15,154 posts)
12. If he is reelected
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:25 PM
Jan 2020

I don't know what I will do. I can't handle another four years of this lunacy!!!

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
32. No, I think this is it...lets put our brains together
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:30 PM
Jan 2020

this sob will be removed form office and will live in a jail until the end of his life.

diva77

(7,659 posts)
26. Apparently the Russian mob is far more brutal than the mafia -- at least according to Craig Unger
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:41 PM
Jan 2020

in "House of Trump, House of Putin"

czarjak

(11,296 posts)
41. That was a part of Sixty Minutes decades ago...
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:24 PM
Jan 2020

“You’re the puppet” And Putin laughed and laughed forever and ever, Amen?

bdamomma

(63,923 posts)
57. The Russian
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:07 AM
Jan 2020

mob poisons and kills people. How about the Ukrainian plane that was using a Russian missile, and it's not the first time Putin took down a passenger plane.

bdamomma

(63,923 posts)
52. When
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:03 AM
Jan 2020

the Ambassador was testifying in front of the committee she was even worried. Sounds like a threat to her life. These are thugs we are dealing with.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
73. That makes me feel sick to my stomach.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 04:05 AM
Jan 2020

I really think he wanted to have her killed. What a sick fucking bastard! There is no low he won't stoop to.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
7. I thought that may be the case, when they needed to get her out immediately.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:19 PM
Jan 2020

I'm happy they got her out safely. I literally had to catch my breath reading those messages.😳
He needs to be removed now.
I'm thinking Pelosi knows exactly what she is doing, I'm so happy she is in charge.

leftieNanner

(15,154 posts)
9. What will Moscow Mitch do with this information?
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:22 PM
Jan 2020

He can't sweep it under the rug since it's already been made public.

He'll probably just say it was some "boys being boys" and that it has nothing to do with that lunatic currently squatting in OUR HOUSE.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
14. I don't know, this can't be just swept under the rug. I know
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:26 PM
Jan 2020

it's what we've become accustomed to. But this is the planning of the murder of an American ambassador by an American president. Think of how batshit crazy that sounds...

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
17. I know they'll spin it
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:28 PM
Jan 2020

But this is insane even if they can’t prove they were plotting to kill her. This is still the most damning evidence of all.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
19. I'm pretty desensitized from following this mess as closely as I do,
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:31 PM
Jan 2020

but holyshit this is insane😳

getagrip_already

(14,838 posts)
76. he will ignore it...
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:51 AM
Jan 2020

of course. He isn't going to allow new evidence or any witnesses. He probably won't them do anything beyond reading the articles, then having trumps defense team speak as long as they want to. Then they will vote.

Over in a week or less, but definitely before the sotu.

2naSalit

(86,798 posts)
10. Sure sounds like it!
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:23 PM
Jan 2020

What did I tell yas? Absolute shock was coming this week, but hold on, it's only the 15th.

It's now a much bigger "...but wait, there's more!" things.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
16. We can't wait for elections.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:27 PM
Jan 2020

This is too dangerous and too serious. Trump, Pompeo, Republicans, etc. are all implicated in the biggest criminal scandal in history.

leftieNanner

(15,154 posts)
20. Hmmm. I wonder if this is why
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:32 PM
Jan 2020

Pompeo refused to release any documents or communications about the Ukraine affair? Like how someone at State knew to call the Ambassador and tell her to get out NOW?

Geeminy Christmas! When will it be enough for these assholes to be called to account and fired and arrested and thrown in the pokey??

Greywing

(1,124 posts)
22. And don't forget Barr ... just ordered no investigations
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:39 PM
Jan 2020

unless signed off by him. They all need to be arrested and tried!

Greywing

(1,124 posts)
27. I admit that I've been questioning my own sanity for the past year or so
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:45 PM
Jan 2020

I think more and more is going to start coming out ... in for a wild ride.

Kablooie

(18,641 posts)
29. Unless there is proof that Trump supported a hit it doesn't matter if underlings discussed it.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:48 PM
Jan 2020

The fact he had people working for him that were discussing it is concerning but is not proof that Trump is culpable.
Especially with something as serious as this there would have to be undeniable proof that he was actively supporting it.

mgardener

(1,820 posts)
43. Rudy
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:44 PM
Jan 2020

Sent a letter to Ukraine president saying he was acting as POTUS lawyer.
The emails were to and from Rudy and Robert B Hayden.
Read the whole released documents. It chilling.

Demsrule86

(68,689 posts)
48. What he did with biden is enough to get him convicted if this was an honest Senate...but in
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:57 PM
Jan 2020

this case having people working for you were plotting to kill an American citizen should force a resignation.

Bayard

(22,154 posts)
70. Agreed
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 01:34 AM
Jan 2020

He's just going to say he knew nothing about it. Like saying he has no idea who Parnas is.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
30. can't wait for election 2020
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:50 PM
Jan 2020

It's rigged already.

No deal for resignation unless it's clear that he will be immediately charged with crimes. No immunity. No pardon.

Catherine Vincent

(34,491 posts)
33. I don't know guys
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:40 PM
Jan 2020

Trump is corrupt, crooked, and may be a sexual abuser but I don't believe he would have someone killed.

OMGWTF

(3,976 posts)
34. Recall that he could "shoot someone on 5th Ave and not lose any supporters."
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:03 PM
Jan 2020

Shitler is already responsible for the murders of everyone aboard that Ukrainian airliner.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
36. I'm sure he has no problem with ordering a hit but the repuke from Connecticut
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:11 PM
Jan 2020

is a nut job who seems to live in his own fantasy land so who knows if the diplomat was really in danger or not. That nutjob is tRumps buddy which is enough to give tRump the boot.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
45. I'm with you on this.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:46 PM
Jan 2020

Trump is evil enough to do it, but it may have simply been trump's worked-up flunky nutjob doing this, thinking he had a way to get close to that orange devil.

Hekate

(90,827 posts)
42. I believe that the Mad King absolutely would have someone killed, & indeed he just did...
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:33 PM
Jan 2020

The man is a stochastic terrorist who loves whipping up mobs and pointing them at his "enemies."

Also, he IS a serial sexual assaulter, and he bragged about it on the Access Hollywood tape and elsewhere.

jcgoldie

(11,647 posts)
46. Hes a psychopath
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:49 PM
Jan 2020

I don't believe the morality of this question would even register to him... only the utility.

mgardener

(1,820 posts)
47. He has no regard for anybody but himself.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:51 PM
Jan 2020

Donald Trump claimed he could "stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody" and not "lose any voters."
Why would anybody say that? How much outrage was there from Republicans?
He just assassinated Soleimani.
He has no regard for anybody but himself.
He is an amoral narcissist. He is ruthless and will do anything to get what he wants.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
56. Are you kidding me? A casino owning, money laundering mob boss wouldn't put a hit out on someone?
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:07 AM
Jan 2020

Because that is exactly what he is. That is exactly his M.O.

Let’s ask Michael Cohen if Trump has it in him.



sellitman

(11,607 posts)
79. How about the Deutsche Bank employee who just "killed himself"?
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 08:44 PM
Jan 2020

If that doesn't sound nefarious nothing does.

lastlib

(23,290 posts)
62. Gen. Qassem Soleimani might disagree......
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:20 AM
Jan 2020

maybe Jamal Khashoggi would as well.......... jus' a thought........

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
74. Are you serious?
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 04:11 AM
Jan 2020

He absolutely would have someone killed who was getting in his way if he could. And he has obviously tried. And I am sure this probably wasn't the first time. The man is pure evil and other people mean nothing to him. You have a much too favorable view of him. He is Satan incarnate.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
38. If she was a really bad person, I've heard that that's okay
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:18 PM
Jan 2020

Even some folks at DU have told me that. I don't quite believe it, but that's what I've heard.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
51. I despise him more than anyone in the world.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:03 AM
Jan 2020

I won't say anymore. Because it would get me in trouble.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
64. This whole thing is making me wonder, what may have happened with Mueller?
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:48 AM
Jan 2020

Did they threaten to kill him, his family? Most of us know for a fact there was more than enough evidence of collusion.

Captain Zero

(6,823 posts)
71. And I always thought Coats exit was swift, quiet, hurried and he got out with his lips sealed and
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 02:57 AM
Jan 2020

tail between his legs right as all this was breaking with Yovanovich.
Maybe he knows something, but if he has been threatened he won't say.

FormerOstrich

(2,703 posts)
72. I firmly believe
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 03:18 AM
Jan 2020

until today any president of any party would have resigned the minute those texts became public. If not by their own power, the power of their party.

I don't think anything will come of it except maybe a lot of shrillness, if that.

UCmeNdc

(9,601 posts)
78. They were actually considering murdering an American Ambassador! What else is Trump doing?
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 01:26 PM
Jan 2020

What other little projects are hidden behind Trump administration's closed doors?

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