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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe hardest job we may have, will be the one after Trump is voted out of office..
In a number of areas...
We will have to debug the White House, phone systems and God only knows what the Russians and North Koreans have bugged.
Of course trying to get our dignity back on the world stage.
Rebuilding our alliances.
So many things..but primal will be
Keeping the investigations going on the Trump mafia. We cannot just let him walk away after he has spent these years dismantling our government.
We do not even know, what we do not know.
It will be so easy to drop the investigations because everyone is so sick of it.. But what we really need to do is double down and help SDNY put the Trumpies in jail.
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)is up to the task - I think Barr is blocking them from indicting RICO Rudy
Peacetrain
(22,878 posts)someone has something on the entire republican party
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)The next administration is going to be the fall guy for it.
Peacetrain
(22,878 posts)because they are going to have to deal with a deficit nightmare and very little space to go and correct the direction when the economy tanks again
LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)When they have the power they spend like sailors, while out of the other side of their mouths shout about reducing the debt and deficit. Giant tax break giveaways to themselves and their wealthy donors, paid for by reducing services to average Americans. By the time a Democratic President gets in, the economy is reacting badly.
And then the RW media machine starts their blaming the current administration for it. And how we need good financial business persons like the Republicans to straighten it all out. Of course the MSM just goes along with the long time trope of conservatives = good for the economy and business, liberals = tax and spend and incompetence. Meanwhile Republicans and their wealthy supporters cash in on the Disaster Capitalism marketplace they created, buying up all the smaller businesses and homes that are forced to sell low. Then watch as the Democrats heal the economy for them and their new cheap investments start to rise in value.
Its a win win for them. And I have no idea how to prevent it from repeating over and over. It works every time. At the very least I wish the Democrats would make a greater effort in educating the public about this cycle.
lapfog_1
(29,226 posts)Shrub hurt the office, Trump is laying waste to it. Obama did a lot to start the restoration in between, but it will be a Herculean task to fully restore it. I really hope we can do it and address the major issues around the world.
Peacetrain
(22,878 posts)And we will have not choice but do it.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)When I saw debug, I thought of Trump's bedbug issues. That led to crab lice and burning the mattresses.
He and his sperm receptacle, Ivanka, make me ill.
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marble falls
(57,240 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)eyes:
marble falls
(57,240 posts)CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)The head of Diebold, voting machine manufacturer, is a Republican donor.
There could be a "Man of the Year" scenario anytime. Instead of the double letter, it selects double-chin.
marble falls
(57,240 posts)CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)23,000 either voted for the dimwit or stayed home because of the FB BS. Then 2 other rust belt states did the same.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)You're welcome.
Perhaps you're unfamiliar with the ACA? Continued support and funding of Planned Parenthood, LGBTQ rights, the Social Safety Net....
Or perhaps you tell us what is "milquetoast" about those?
marble falls
(57,240 posts)CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)That scum needs to be tried and convicted too.
marble falls
(57,240 posts)CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)Both seem appropriate given what we learn every day.
Paka
(2,760 posts)Progressives need to continue to push their goals.
ArcticFox
(1,249 posts)We need the centrism to end
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Various reasons. Most RW-generated of course; RW agents are embedded in most news organizations now, and the agendas they serve will remain, strategy altered a bit maybe. But also will be the venal and just generally despicable interests on both right and left, also of course.
Trump and Repubs have kept the media supplied with very high-octane fuel 24/7/365, and if Repubs lose power to control they'll also lose much of their newsworthiness to the Dems, and much of their rush to cover the news will become rush to create, to sustain.
Outfits that specialize in swiftboating Democrats by filling the media's 24/7/365 news cycle with their poison have mostly been in eclipse, but now they're undoubtedly planning eagerly for a return of their fat days. Judicial Watch's 40 or so partners alone, with their big windows overlooking the Capitol, have had very successful careers focused mainly on persecuting the Clintons and manufacturing fill dirt for other Democrats; at one time their material was "news" almost every day, but they've had to scramble while we've been out. Poor things are exiled to work that doesn't make the viewing screen, mostly lawsuits aimed at vote suppression, causing trouble for Democrats, etc., in many states.
Peacetrain
(22,878 posts)Putins trolls will keep them occupied and going full tilt... probably would be a good idea to have a whole dept to just counter the lies. That is the nonsense that got us this thing squatting in the White House.. We have to get proactive on this
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Don't how well "proactive" will work against dishonorable people whose incomes and ideology are built on attack. We can pass a few laws to correct some harm, very much including restoring restrictions on ownership "empires," which will head straight to court, but for the most part it's up to the consumers to shrink them and their power.
Sanders is a proactive model for a candidacy: Seek out photo ops and coverage of official messages. Otherwise, avoid the news media as much as possible, resist disclosures of any kind, and do an end run around journalists by using voter microtargeting and social media to communicate directly with potential voters.
I can't see it for a major political party that exists to serve the people and must have transparency, however.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,654 posts)This. So very very this.
world wide wally
(21,755 posts)Let Joe get the bus out of the ditch, then someone can navigate us where we want to go in 4 years. Biden has the most knowledge abou what the government is supposed to look like and everything that needs to be addressed.
ArcticFox
(1,249 posts)What the government is supposed to look like? Not like anything in the past 40 years!
world wide wally
(21,755 posts)ArcticFox
(1,249 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,021 posts)That damage is going to hurt for a long time.
shanti
(21,675 posts)some of the worst ones will show their asses and we can impeach them promptly. So much work to be done cleaning up Chump's mess that it will be very hard to take care of our current needs.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)For Clarence, just point out to him that he's black. He'll have to leave for health reasons.
We can deport Alito to 1933 Berlin where he belongs.
It's a start. Those first three make Roberts look like a moderate. He'll be figuratively castrated without them.
lostnfound
(16,191 posts)Will they say, Is anyone going to hold the Trump, McCarthy and McConnell accountable?
Do you think letting those crimes go unpunished sends the wrong signal?
Can the Democrats EVER hold the GOP accountable?
Or will they say,
Instead of focusing on the future, Dems are once again stuck in the past.
Just getting elected isnt enough for them, they are trying to put their opponents on trial all over again
More partisan politics in Washington, they have majorities but cant let go of the witch hunt.
My bets are on the latter.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)Teabillies want their country BACK.
Trump wants to make America great AGAIN.
Progressives are always looking FORWARD.
I understand why the media gets things screwed up. In college, teaching and other majors needed a B average to stay in the program. Communications majors only needed a C average.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,657 posts)Efilroft Sul
(3,582 posts)And to make sure we roll back all attacks on the common good that we've endured for 40 years.
a kennedy
(29,709 posts)I didnt realize how much so many people hated Barack Obama. Watching that Frontline part 1 episode last night, 2nd episode is tonight was just so disheartening. I really dont think this country will recover for a long long time. Who really could be the first to attempt at healing this country??? I just dont know.
dmr
(28,349 posts)Think about all the Federal agencies, departments, etc that have been torn apart, mismanaged, moved or just plain mangled.
Before we can even begin to progress, we have to rebuild our country. From National Security to our National Parks to any and all we hold sacred.
It's not just Trump I want investigated and jailed, it's each one of his enablers that have profiteered off our beautiful nation.
I would love to see the entire Republican Congress investigated. Not because I am partisan, but because they added to our destruction by betraying their Oath.
They are betraying each and every one of us.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,438 posts)and the Republicans confirmed. I know that it wouldn't be easy to get rid of them, but there are lots whom are unqualified whom should be gotten rid of if possible.
RT Atlanta
(2,517 posts)with that term in quotes.