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Seth Abramson: A Trump-UAE scandal is staring us in the face, and it involves the 2020 election (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 OP
This is why we can't risk waiting for 2020 election to dump Trump. Grasswire2 Jan 2020 #1
✔️ blm Jan 2020 #4
I agree 100% but what who or what will accomplish that? triron Jan 2020 #22
a couple more whistle blowers would sure help Grasswire2 Jan 2020 #26
Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #2
Who shot down the airplane????????? pwb Jan 2020 #3
A Ukrainian plane would be the target for a false flag operation in Tehran Ponietz Jan 2020 #30
Kick - thread completed Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #5
Everytime Trump does somthing Kaiserguy Jan 2020 #6
PUT TRUMP IN THE SLAMMER FOR 25 YEARS trueblue2007 Jan 2020 #7
Upside down as well. triron Jan 2020 #23
Exactly Ingersollman Jan 2020 #43
Nah, just send him to Iran for 'justice.' wnylib Jan 2020 #41
Amazing bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #8
I don't think the press is impotent, SergeStorms Jan 2020 #9
I do not consider the press to be impotent. Grasswire2 Jan 2020 #28
most of teevee is incompetent or, in one case, complicit Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #48
I don't consider the commentariat on cable television to be "the press"! Grasswire2 Jan 2020 #50
Raises some other points/questions in my mind. wnylib Jan 2020 #45
K & R! Bookmarking FakeNoose Jan 2020 #10
Thread Reader App version here, all together. . . DinahMoeHum Jan 2020 #11
Thanks! Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #13
So THAT'S why it looks as if the Russians are backing off on election meddling this year. ancianita Jan 2020 #12
The house should not certify any Trump election victory uponit7771 Jan 2020 #14
a very interesting thought. But we couldn't get that done in 2000 for Gore. nt Grasswire2 Jan 2020 #29
My first thought after reading this OP Mr.Bill Jan 2020 #15
+1, GOO voter suppression started before Trump the rot is at Moscow Mitch imho uponit7771 Jan 2020 #17
+1 Newest Reality Jan 2020 #51
Well, I've been asking for a few years now 2naSalit Jan 2020 #16
What a mess. We should have invaded SA rather than Iraq after 9-11. Buckeyeblue Jan 2020 #18
Seth needs like a weekly 2hr show on TV Roland99 Jan 2020 #19
He knows too much. triron Jan 2020 #24
Thread unroll: Rhiannon12866 Jan 2020 #20
Thank you! Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #36
The question is how do we get the American people to read and understand this? not_the_one Jan 2020 #21
Bet she will not see it. triron Jan 2020 #27
Yep TREASON!!! triron Jan 2020 #25
Why Shouldn'i Be Called What It Is Me. Jan 2020 #31
There is no bottom with these people. Just one giant, murderous, greed filled gutter. 58Sunliner Jan 2020 #32
My head hurts wrapping my mind around all this Pachamama Jan 2020 #33
K&R burrowowl Jan 2020 #34
My head is spinning... AMI, Bezos, Prince, Iran 😲😲 live love laugh Jan 2020 #35
Kick addl info added Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #37
Betsy Devos' Brother BillyBobBrilliant Jan 2020 #38
K&R. dchill Jan 2020 #39
Kicking for exposure Tanuki Jan 2020 #40
Lord why cant these folks just write an article instead of a 1000 tweets oldsoftie Jan 2020 #42
He wrote a whole book on the subject - this will likely be volume II n/t Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #44
As utterly abysmal & traitorous all this info diligently researched by Seth is ... MFGsunny Jan 2020 #46
And the American public responds...TL/DR. progressoid Jan 2020 #47
K&R!! G_j Jan 2020 #49
K&R! JT99 Jan 2020 #52

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
26. a couple more whistle blowers would sure help
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:42 PM
Jan 2020

We really need something more to break wide open.

The longer it takes to transfer the articles, the better chance we have of something else happening to move public opinion.

Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

pwb

(11,290 posts)
3. Who shot down the airplane?????????
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 04:56 PM
Jan 2020

A private military? Prince Starting shit as usual. No wonder the generals look so pissed, they may have not done any of this?

Ponietz

(3,007 posts)
30. A Ukrainian plane would be the target for a false flag operation in Tehran
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:53 PM
Jan 2020

Sends a message, you think?

No way the Iranis could admit to that. Their citizenry go over the edge to know there are enemies in thier midst.

Kaiserguy

(740 posts)
6. Everytime Trump does somthing
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 06:28 PM
Jan 2020

he does because there is something in it for Trump. No matter how many lives it will cost in the end all that matters is it was of some benefit to Trump.

bucolic_frolic

(43,291 posts)
8. Amazing
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 06:44 PM
Jan 2020

You did wonder after awhile why all these consultants/operatives in Trump's orbit were jet-setting across the globe and meeting foreign government/business people. The Mueller Report didn't go there, although we still haven't seen it, so who knows.

So now we must convince the Senate, or the electorate - American voters - of these conspiracies and inform them what is going on, or it will happen again.

And our press is impotent, either by design, graft, or collusion.

Seth Abramson is amazing.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
9. I don't think the press is impotent,
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 07:07 PM
Jan 2020

the sheer volume of dumbfuckery and crime being committed by TrumpCo. is too much for the combined media to cover. There has never been - and probably never will be again - an administration as criminal and underhanded as TrumpCo. The American citizenry can't digest half of Trump's known crimes right now, let alone the full scope of the Trump Crime Family.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
28. I do not consider the press to be impotent.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:44 PM
Jan 2020

Virtually everything we know has been reported to us.

We didn't find it ourselves!

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,424 posts)
48. most of teevee is incompetent or, in one case, complicit
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 01:11 PM
Jan 2020

It's a good thing the press still includes good people, and that media conglomerates can't filter all of our news.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
50. I don't consider the commentariat on cable television to be "the press"!
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 02:16 PM
Jan 2020

It's the print reporters who bring us the news, and they dig hard and are relentless.

Some of them show up as guests on cable.

But the anchors and their usual panels of chatters are not the press, to me.

wnylib

(21,611 posts)
45. Raises some other points/questions in my mind.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:43 AM
Jan 2020

Both Bushes had Saudi ties and junior's businesses were bailed out by Saudis. Both waged war on Iraq. Was this in order to have US troops in the area to protect Saudi interests?

What about Khashoggi as a critic if Saudis and Trump's refusal to criticize Saudis fir his murder?

If Saudi/US deals precede Trump, back to the Bushes, does that shed light on Republican support of Trump and his Saudi and Russian connections?

But what about Trump's support of Israel, who is an enemy of these ME nations? A conflict of interest for Trump?

FakeNoose

(32,764 posts)
10. K & R! Bookmarking
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 07:21 PM
Jan 2020

Thanks for this post!

I plan to read every entry ... but ... football and hockey are on right now.


ancianita

(36,136 posts)
12. So THAT'S why it looks as if the Russians are backing off on election meddling this year.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 07:25 PM
Jan 2020

With the story floated that they know we can simply "sabotage ourselves."

Sickening fossil fueled geopolitics.

Mr.Bill

(24,324 posts)
15. My first thought after reading this OP
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 07:37 PM
Jan 2020

was that something that doesn't fit is no one named Trump could possibly be intelligent enough to be involved in such a complex conspiracy. Then it dawned on me. They aren't. That's why the whole thing is blowing up. All these bad actors would have proceeded with this regardless of who the republican nominee was, with or without their involvement.

I could easily see Jeb Bush, the presumptive nominee early on in the campaign being involved in this. The Bush crime family is every bit as bad as the Trump crime family, only they know better how to keep it concealed. Trump is not enabling this plan, he's fucking it up. If Bush had been elected, this (or something even worse) would all still be going on and the only difference would be we wouldn't be aware of it. This conspiracy will fall apart because it attached itself to a wrecking ball named Donald Trump.

2naSalit

(86,782 posts)
16. Well, I've been asking for a few years now
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 07:51 PM
Jan 2020

where that POS Erik Prince was and figured he's had a hand in events in that region for years. Guess I was right as it seems that he's been doing exactly what I suspected he was doing.

Thanks for posting and thanks to Mr. Abramson as well!


I'm not really glad I was right, though.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
21. The question is how do we get the American people to read and understand this?
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:27 PM
Jan 2020

I sent the link for this thread to Rachel.

But who knows who really screens her emails...

All of this is complicated, but I don't think the American people are too stupid to GET what they are doing.

Unfortunately they may never know about it.

Outrage overload is designed to keep us beat down and overwhelmed. THAT they know how to do...



Eric Prince needs to die in jail.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
33. My head hurts wrapping my mind around all this
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 01:35 AM
Jan 2020

And this is probably only the tip of the ice berg of the crimes Trump and his crime family is involved in.

I even bet Jeffrey Epstein fits in here somehow. (Seriously - not kidding)

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
46. As utterly abysmal & traitorous all this info diligently researched by Seth is ...
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 12:16 PM
Jan 2020

... researched by Seth is, am grateful to have enough puzzle pieces now that provide a full(er) picture of the real players and the real program.

MUCH OBLIGED, Mr. Abramson, much obliged.

Et tu Brutus, Trash-heapTrump!

MF45 and his cabal administration have given our country not just a day, but several YEARS that "will live in infamy."

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