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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCan Skinner or someone at the DNC find out the reason Romney is pulling out of PA, MI and WI?
There seems to be a lot of confusion here about that. Maybe someone at the DNC has the real skinny.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)1) He doesn't have the money.
NO.
2) They are in the bag for Romney so no more spending is needed.
NO.
3) Their polling suggests Obama is too far ahead in those states and their resources are better directed elsewhere.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)R$ is greedy, dont forget so he doesnt want to waste HIS OWN money
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)I don't believe Romney has actually spent ANY of his own money in this campaign. He is playing a game called "Other Billionaires' Money", and I am guessing some of those billionaires are getting a little irritated seeing pictures of Romney playing in a motorboat when he should be out campaigning.
I am guessing the word has come down that some of those big purses are being closed, and that is why the campaign has cut off their ads in the states that are least likely targets.
But that tells us something. All three of those states (WI, PA, and MI) don't look completely out of reach. They all have a margin somewhere in the 5% to 10% range. If the Romney campaign had all the money that they are supposed to have, they would not be stopping those media buys this early. No way. You would keep the ads rnning and see if any of those states bend back your way.
I think it has all been a big bluff by the billionaires to try to press Pflouffe and Axelrod into mistakes. Nice try, but those guys are smart.
Not only do the billionaires not want to send good money after bad, they are probably getting some calls from Rahm Emmanuel right now asking them how well they expect to be treated by a second Obama administration if they keep dumping supertankers of money into the election. Notice that Rahm has taken on a special assignment of "fund raising." There are two ways to win at that. One is to bring in new money for Obama. The other is to stop the money flowing to Romney. My guess is the latter is what is going on.
For example, can anybody imagine this conversation from Rahm to David Koch?
"David, this money is not doing you any good and it is screwing with our democracy. Let me ask you this. When Obama wins in November, how do you think it would feel to have the Keystone pipeline shoved up your ass? If you want to have any help for the next 4 years, you'll stop writing those checks this afternoon. IN fact, you might want to think about sending some money to Democratic Super PACs, if you know what I mean."
Why else would Rahm have been brought back into the active inner circle at this stage?
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)to flood the airways with ads so freaking disgusting and full of lies that the campaign doesn't want them coming from them.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)I think it's a straightforward story. At this point in time they (the RW in general) are not three good states for them to expend energy on.
Bear in mind that they have polling on how much their ads run so far have moved people. If the electorates there are locked in place it would be diminishing returns.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)the superpacs would spend the money just so the President has to also then spend money in that market. Adelson has said he would commit $100 million to the campaign (he's such a schmuck).
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)JI7
(89,254 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)tblue
(16,350 posts)I thought they had all these Repub-Governor states rigged already. I hope that's not why.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)They do have optical scan vote counting machines though. But there will be a paper trail.
rox63
(9,464 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,197 posts)I.e., with the assumption that anything that would say "I'm Mitt Romney and I approve of this message" ads will go to his more shaky states.
The thing NOT being said here is that although Rmoney's team is out-fundraising "in total" (personal + PAC), I believe I saw somewhere that Obama's "personal" fundraising is out-doing Rmoney's but Rmoney's PACs are what is skewing his totals.
Of course I am in one of those states where he is supposed to be pulling out and I look forward to a break from Rmoney's fact-free ads.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)As Stephen Colbert and his lawyer can tell you, the trick to this whole SuperPAC thing is to know how to NOT-COORDINATE!
BumRushDaShow
(129,197 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,197 posts)drm604
(16,230 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,197 posts)I have been seeing an Obama ad the past 2 weeks here in PA - specifically the Clinton one. It's been running every day, multiple times a day.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)drm604
(16,230 posts)I emailed her to see if she knows anything.
blm
(113,071 posts)claim their hands are clean with minimal buys and minimal backlash from corpmedia.
nanabugg
(2,198 posts)HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)Ian_rd
(2,124 posts)Even if Obama is well-ahead in those states, any smart Republican political strategist would still be spending money on ads there for one reason: To force Obama to spend money there too, thereby decreasing his war chest. Because that's where Romney has the advantage. Money. Romney can afford to waste money with the goal of forcing Obama to campaign on safe ground.
I'm not convinced Romney is really pulling out.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)the PACS will be there.. Count on it.. By announcing that the CAMPAIGN is not advertising there, they are creating a "distance" for the ugliness that's coming..