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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI can't be the only one who self-censors these days.
If Siri, or Alexa, or any random MAGA hat wearing moron were to overhear my actual thoughts, I'd be visited by the Secret Service.
I've only now come to the realization that I never actually hated a US President before. I thought I had. But ...
Nixon? My own C-in-C? A lying asshole.
Reagan? Clark Clifford nailed it ... an amiable dunce whose willingness to ignore science and decency while ignoring the AIDS epidemic in pursuit of some electoral bounce, now has him rotting in Hell.
Bush I? Kind of a low rent corporate whore with a lot of inside connections..
Bush II? A fucking idiot, nudged into office by electoral chicanery, who somehow managed to spin the worst terrorist attack in American history into a second term.
But I don't believe that any of them were just born evil.
Stupid? Sure. Greedy? Fuck yeah. Venal and power hungry? Yup.
But for the first time in my life, I actively and aggressively HATE the President of the United States of America.
I want him gone. Out of office. ASAP.
GOTV.
Afromania
(2,771 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Poiuyt
(18,130 posts)He tries to mask it with his incessant bragging, but he really hates himself.
LuvNewcastle
(16,855 posts)Hell, he cheats at golf, a fucking game. How can you enjoy a 'win' knowing that you cheated?
justhanginon
(3,290 posts)arthritisR_US
(7,291 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,833 posts)Nixon was a crook, Reagan was a phony, Bush I was a corporate tool, and Bush II was a neocon tool. But none of them were irredeemably evil, bad to the bone. Bad all the time. Trump, however, doesn't have a decent bone in his ugly orange body. He cheated on all of his wives, he cheated everybody he did business with, he lies even when he doesn't have to, he's never kind or generous, and the only people he seems to admire are dictators and despots. He has no real friends. He doesn't enjoy the arts or nature or literature. He doesn't even like dogs. I can't think of a single positive quality. He's just bad. If I were religious I'd have to conclude he's without redemption and damned to perdition. He's casting a spiritual blight on the whole country, and nothing will get better until he's been gone for long enough that we don't have to think about him anymore.
mnhtnbb
(31,402 posts)The man disgusts me and I have nothing but contempt for him.
llmart
(15,552 posts)I, for one, can't wait until we don't have to think of him anymore. Our country will be so much better off once the whole lot of them are gone. However, as we've seen with Dick Cheney, it's the evil ones that just live on and on.
Once he's gone, I do not want any more media coverage of him. Zero. I don't know what I'll do if they start talking about him day after day after he's been kicked to the curb. Probably do a complete media blackout at my house.
I want to get back to normalcy.
blm
(113,084 posts)Especially at work.
alittlelark
(18,890 posts)That being said, the emotions I feel surrounding the Insidious Oranganus are as close as I have come to feeling 'HATE' for ANY person.
DEbluedude
(816 posts)HE HAS NONE. NADA. ZILCH. He is the epitome of evil.
cornball 24
(1,480 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,833 posts)Nixon created the Office of Management and Budget and the Office of Energy Policy, supported the Clean Air Act and established the EPA. Reagan mostly did bad shit as president, but he did sign a bill granting amnesty for undocumented immigrants. Bush I signed the Americans with Disabilities Act and an improved Clean Air Act. Bush II sucked pretty seriously but he did provide a lot of foreign aid to combat AIDS in Africa. Trump wouldn't have even done those things. None of them grabbed women by the pussy (or if they did, they never bragged about it), made fun of disabled people or Gold Star families, called for the criminal prosecution of political rivals, or solicited the help of foreign adversaries to rig an election (Nixon kept that stuff within the US).
CloudWatcher
(1,851 posts)Nixon, Reagan, Bush 1 & 2 ... all had some redeeming characteristics. I still can't think of a single one for Trump. There is just nothing admirable about him ... at all. It's amazingly depressing that so many think he is ok.
42bambi
(1,753 posts)being hateful. However, what other word could be more fitting for someone as evil as Trump. Just recently I have come to terms with my hate. Trump and other like minded immoral people have earned the hate we feel.
Hekate
(90,787 posts)Also, hubby has been reading Buddhism for decades and he censors me too because, karma, right? No one is truly evil, just deeply ignorant, right?
Until one day toward the end of last year, he didn't. We both want them all gone, and prison is too good for them.
Past that -- well, howdy Agent Mike, and how do you like your new co-worker Agent Boris? Or, not?
kimbutgar
(21,185 posts)I want to hate him. But hate takes up too much space so instead I dislike that vile evil cretin. And hope nothing but negative energies on him. Payback will be a bitch on him in the future. And history will not look well on him. We can all take comfort in that! And hopefully the rebuke party will be destroyed by him in the future going the way of the whigs.
Kaleva
(36,340 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,109 posts)Yes, the orange buffoon will be responsible for MORE evil than any other president in our lifetimes, BUT
jr caused almost ONE MILLION women, children and men to lose their lives for a "vanity" war or, if you want to be nice, a war for oil.
I hate them both equally.
Kaleva
(36,340 posts)BKDem
(1,733 posts)Youve nailed it. Eloquently.
Trump is very special. Unique. Horrifying.
I want him dead. I want his family dead. I want Trump Tower burned to the ground. Thats all Al Capone wanted for Elliot Ness, and its all I want for Donald Trump
PJMcK
(22,048 posts)He is the lowest scum to ever be in American politics, and that's really saying something.
I hate Trump in ways I cannot describe. He is a danger to life on Earth.
He's also an idiot.
Mr.Bill
(24,318 posts)but I hated everyone of those presidents in the OP. Still do. And I feel good about it. It feels perfectly natural to hate people like this with a passion. Every one of these bastards should die in prison. They killed, harmed and ruined the lives of countless people. The day they die always has been and will continue to be a day of celebration for me. If hate is toxic or bad to you, that's fine. But when I hate people such as these, I thrive on it.
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)I self censor in nearly every message and reply. I would be long gone if I did not.
Out of office, by any means - okay by me.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)His one and only reason he can think of as to why Democrats impeached Trump, and why they continue to criticize and go after him is simply because...
wait for it....
they HATE him. That was the excuse mirrored to me by them when the subject was brought up.
Uh.........yeah. Although hate is very strong word. Why would any decent person not dislike the man? He is vile. Immature, mean vindictive, and self cantered to the point of extreme narcissism.
But its amazing how they simply can overlook all the actual crimes that he has committed, bribing and obstruction, as well as just despicable behaviour before and after he was sworn in. All the abusive tweets, all the incompetence, and hollow bragging.
Its like saying Charlie Manson was only convicted because the jurors HATED him. Did some of them actually hate the man? Maybe, but that is besides the point. They had evidence against him, as they do against Trump.
onecaliberal
(32,888 posts)pansypoo53219
(20,993 posts)fucking unpresidential + unbecoming.
Initech
(100,100 posts)ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,455 posts)PatrickforO
(14,587 posts)is what got us Trump.
Aussie105
(5,429 posts)Not angry thoughts, not hateful thoughts, but thoughts about short circuiting the current flustercluck and making things better. Quickly.
Unfortunately they are illegal. And messy. And violent.
So up-shutting, right there.
McKim
(2,412 posts)Well done that you are dialing it down. We cant have illegals thoughts and ideas on DU. We are angry but maybe better to put that energy into impeachment action or our sterling candidates.
I take heart when I see Dems turning away from war and when I see the tidal wave of public opinion turning against Trump the warmonger! WE are the majority. Feel the power and use it!
rurallib
(62,447 posts)to pay his victims and to pay back the country what he has stolen from us.
LuvNewcastle
(16,855 posts)release him to make his way in the world like most people do.
rurallib
(62,447 posts)he would attract a big following of crazies in no time.
There is a super max security prison in Colorado I think where he can rot, out of communication with the world.
soldierant
(6,914 posts)Let him rot in Guantanamo.
rurallib
(62,447 posts)soldierant
(6,914 posts)Somewhere he's far enough away I wouldn't have even a chance of breathing the same air.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)I have to do the self-censor thing as well. The only person I can allow to hear my real thoughts is the Mrs. and she pretty much agrees with me. I really don't want to meet any Secret Service folk coming to talk to me.
The Orange Shitgibbon is truly evil.
Different Drummer
(7,642 posts)Hopefully, it'll get the whole bunch of 'em.
BarbD
(1,193 posts)Talking to my 15 year old granddaughter is difficult because her Dad (my son-in-law) voted for Trump. I try to explain to her how important it is to vote and get involved in politics,
It is imperative I focus all my energy to remove all republicans from office, I can't afford to be weighed down by by the negative emotion of hate. As the old song goes "You've got to accentuate the positive, eliminate the negative, latch on to the affirmative, and don't mess with Mr. Inbetween."
MasonDreams
(756 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Now consider that Magats hate us as much, well thats a whole lotta hate and spells doom for our country. Never thought I would envy Canadians.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,833 posts)Duppers
(28,125 posts)The FBI would've already been at my door. I say radical things out loud.
But I must censor myself with most of my neighbors who are idiot gop voters.
world wide wally
(21,754 posts)SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)In the U.S. there's some stiff competition, but if he's not the most hated, he's number two for sure.
greyl
(22,990 posts)MFM008
(19,818 posts)Your rant x 1000.
malaise
(269,157 posts)And yet evil is mild for this monster
Farmer-Rick
(10,207 posts)He wil never be our dick-tater.
Too many people really really hate his guts.
Hitler was loved by the German people. Most major dicks where loved, at least at first, when they took over more liberal loving countries, like Napolean.
Even Machiavelli knew it was better to be loved than feared.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,505 posts)58Sunliner
(4,394 posts)As for the others, I hated everyone of them. They used American lives like kindling. They aren't idiots, they could care less. They had little that rose above the threshold of self-interest. The orange taint embodies all that is really horrific about about the pukes. Was he actually elected? Same with Bush 2. Two elections were stolen for certain. What kind of a person does that? These are not normal people.
underpants
(182,876 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)would no doubt have the SS knocking on my front door. I tone it down considerbly by simply saying that I want to see a picture of him after he has had his first prison haircut with the electric clippers. Or something equally humiliating.
And yet, I really don't have hatred for him. Hatred is poison. Hatred is what Donnie Dimwit does. The desire for justice is not hatred. Justice is a virtue.
CrispyQ
(36,509 posts)And I hate everyone that still supports the Con and this vile party. There are no decent republicans anymore. You can't support a party that does what the Republican Party does and be a decent person. You just can't. They are the party that separates children from their parents at our southern border. They are the party that disenfranchises voters who disagree with them. They are the party that wants to take affordable health coverage away from millions of Americans. They are the party that believes only straight, white, Christians are true Americans. They are the party that denies and obstructs any action on climate change as our world burns. What is decent about any of that?
I love Joe Biden, but if he thinks today's republicans are going to work with him because he has some history with some of them, he is sadly mistaken. They will obstruct with him just like they did with Obama, and just like they will do with any dem prez.
J_William_Ryan
(1,756 posts)note how Republican presidents since LBJ have become increasingly more incompetent, more dishonest, more corrupt and reprehensible.
As for Trump, I dont hate him I hate what he represents, I hate his politics and failed, wrongheaded agenda, and I hate what hes done to this country.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)there are some people don't have a sense of humor about it. If it was a Democrat, people would openly put mockups of that Democrat's head on their target practice props and have a field day of it, with no questions asked. With Trump, everything is taken so literally and so seriously, even obvious jokes.
You want to know what I cannot get out of my head? Before Trump, if you had asked about 99% of the right wingers in the south if they would happily vote for someone from up north, they would have went off on a profanity laced tirade using "damn" and "yankee" as one word. Now? They want to kill people for Trump. At least one has, when you think back to Charlottesville.
I feel like I can't even joke, which usually how I cope with absurdities like a Trump presidency. Yes, I self censor a lot.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)Why are we willing to give up our privacy so easy, so eagerly so that we can command an electronic devise that we know is constantly listening to everything we say just to play some music? Is it that hard to put an album, and when side "A" is finished turn it and play side "B"? Or just put five CDs in the 5-CD player?, or that radio on a nice Jazz or classical station, or whatever music we like? We instead allow google, and Amazon, two companies that we know are not on the level to protect people from spies, or anything else, and the day Facebook comes up with its version of Alexa many will run to Best Buy to buy their Facebook version, knowing that facebook is working for the enemy, we should all cancel our subscriptions to facebook now, your real friends will take the time to call you on your cell phone, those who don't really care won't and you will be better off without them. Why are we so eager to tell the world everything we do on facebook? It doesn't make sense.
We, as citizens, should be boycotting Facebook (in my book Facebook is a traitor company), Siri, Alexa, and whatever other spying gadget they are trying to sell us. I can only compare this craziness to buying shirts and t-shirts to advertise for the company that is selling us the shirt. What a bargain, we pay to be spied on, we pay to give companies free advertising...Lets wake up people, our best chance to fight this corruption, to change our World is by not supporting them, they are playing us, it is that simple.
WhiskeyWulf
(569 posts)drmeow
(5,024 posts)K and R
That's how we get rid of the motherfucking moronic sociopath.
No need to say anything else on the topic.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,364 posts)... I'd guess much of the Secret Service would agree with you. Secretly. They're closer to his idiocy than most.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)when I ask myself, how much free speech is enough?
But, at the same time, we do not want to let negative forces destroy our peaceful co-existence.
There is a struggle between two life forces. One side has empathy and respect for others. The other side is slightly more base and is greedy to a fault and sometimes unkind and unthoughtful. Both sides believe they are right.
Even more, they know they are right.
Dukkha
(7,341 posts)You can try as hard as anyone could, but it is simply not possible to find one single positive trait about him at all. No redeeming social value whatsoever.
As horrible as Pence is, at least he likes animals and has a nice pet bunny. So yeah, there's one positive trait.
Whereas the deplorable monster was reportedly embarrassed they decided to bring their pets to Washington and deems the Pence family to be yokels. No surprise "Dog" is his favorite insult to demean women.
That's why just losing re-election will never be enough. He must be completely removed from the pubic forum once and for all to stop the toxic frothing sewage that spews from his rotten mouth.