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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBoeing quashed 'stupid' requests for 737 Max simulator training
Boeings internal emails dont paint a pretty picture of its corporate culture.
A new round of emails Boeing shared with the US Federal Aviation Administration in December, and gave to Congress on Thursday, showed its pilots regarded inquiries from airlines and air safety officials with disdain. The internal exchanges show the employees focused on getting Boeings commercial and regulatory partners to drop requests for simulator training on the new 737 Max, which ultimately was involved in two deadly crashes that killed nearly 350 people. (The Verge has published a full set of the emails and messages.)
In 2017, shortly after Malaysias Malindo Air became the first airline to start flying the 737 Max, a sister airline in the Jakarta-based Lion Air group requested a flight simulator to train pilots on the newly acquired plane, to the irritation of a Boeing technical pilot. Technical pilots are Boeing employees that work with airlines and regulators on training, among other things.
Now frigging [airline name redacted] may need a sim to fly the Max, and maybe because of their own stupidity, the pilot wrote in an instant message (pdf, p. 33). Im scrambling to figure out how to unscrew this now! idiots. The pilots names were redacted.
In October 2018, Lion Air, part of the group, became the first airline to crash while flying the Max, killing 189 people, but it is not known if the Boeing pilots were discussing that airline or another in the group.
The Seattle Times reported the airlines request for simulator training might have come in relation to the airline flying to India, as the exchange linked the request to Indias regulator, the Directorate General for Civil Aviation. Not sure if this is Lions fault or DGCAs yet, the pilot said.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/boeing-quashed-stupid-requests-for-737-max-simulator-training/ar-BBYPrWF?li=BBnbfcN
A new round of emails Boeing shared with the US Federal Aviation Administration in December, and gave to Congress on Thursday, showed its pilots regarded inquiries from airlines and air safety officials with disdain. The internal exchanges show the employees focused on getting Boeings commercial and regulatory partners to drop requests for simulator training on the new 737 Max, which ultimately was involved in two deadly crashes that killed nearly 350 people. (The Verge has published a full set of the emails and messages.)
In 2017, shortly after Malaysias Malindo Air became the first airline to start flying the 737 Max, a sister airline in the Jakarta-based Lion Air group requested a flight simulator to train pilots on the newly acquired plane, to the irritation of a Boeing technical pilot. Technical pilots are Boeing employees that work with airlines and regulators on training, among other things.
Now frigging [airline name redacted] may need a sim to fly the Max, and maybe because of their own stupidity, the pilot wrote in an instant message (pdf, p. 33). Im scrambling to figure out how to unscrew this now! idiots. The pilots names were redacted.
In October 2018, Lion Air, part of the group, became the first airline to crash while flying the Max, killing 189 people, but it is not known if the Boeing pilots were discussing that airline or another in the group.
The Seattle Times reported the airlines request for simulator training might have come in relation to the airline flying to India, as the exchange linked the request to Indias regulator, the Directorate General for Civil Aviation. Not sure if this is Lions fault or DGCAs yet, the pilot said.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/boeing-quashed-stupid-requests-for-737-max-simulator-training/ar-BBYPrWF?li=BBnbfcN
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Boeing quashed 'stupid' requests for 737 Max simulator training (Original Post)
Initech
Jan 2020
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Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)1. These airplanes need to make one more trip
straight to the scrap yard.
Kid Berwyn
(14,953 posts)2. First Rule of Teaching
Respect the Pupil.
Going by the quote, Tech Captain Moron sounds a hell of a lot like President Demented.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,337 posts)3. Second rule
Think of how your banter, in writing, back and forth with your coworkers will sound in a deposition.
Not excusing the content but the tenor makes it 20 times worse. Its one thing to call your customers idiots at the proverbial water cooler but putting it in writing never leads to anything good.