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riversedge

(70,299 posts)
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 08:28 PM Jan 2020

These 8 Democrats voted with Republicans to oppose the War Powers Resolution:

sure am glad not to see my Rep on his list.



8 Democrats voted with Republicans to oppose the War Powers Resolution:
Andy Brindisi (NY-22)
Joe Cunningham (SC-01)
Josh Gottheimer (NJ-05)
Kendra Horn (OK-05)
Elaine Luria (VA-02)
Ben McAdams (UT-04)
Stephanie Murphy (FL-07)
and Max Rose (NY-11)



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These 8 Democrats voted with Republicans to oppose the War Powers Resolution: (Original Post) riversedge Jan 2020 OP
who cares evertonfc Jan 2020 #1
I agree backtoblue Jan 2020 #2
bc lock step is an actual political strategy. when the time is right . like now. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #4
The list is useful information for me JonLP24 Jan 2020 #18
joe Cunningham is a problem. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #3
are you in his district? onenote Jan 2020 #6
no.he will have a republican successor. That's why he's a problem. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #8
Max Rose represents NY-11 lapucelle Jan 2020 #5
It's true Staten Island always votes red just like Suffolk county and they are both full of racists. UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #13
I know how SI votes. I grew up there and lived in the borough for 30+ years. N/T lapucelle Jan 2020 #14
So there ya have it. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #15
It's amazing how right wing Staten Island is compared to the major blueness of the rest of NYC. George II Jan 2020 #16
Most of these won by very narrow margins. Many are first timers. onenote Jan 2020 #7
Sorry, I don't angrychair Jan 2020 #10
Do you live in a red district? onenote Jan 2020 #11
I will too, at least for most of them. Here are the 8: George II Jan 2020 #17
So you are conceding that a Republican would be better than Cunningham? onenote Jan 2020 #19
Stephanie Murphy? Baitball Blogger Jan 2020 #9
All 8 should face primary challengers, IMO. Zolorp Jan 2020 #12
Hopefully that won't be the case. onenote Jan 2020 #20
Country before party or holding a seat, IMO. Zolorp Jan 2020 #21
Giving seats to the Republicans is no way to save the country onenote Jan 2020 #22
Some issues are more important than holding seats, IMO. Zolorp Jan 2020 #23
Saving the country is important. And holding seats is necessary to that. onenote Jan 2020 #24
 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
1. who cares
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 08:32 PM
Jan 2020

really. You don't have to vote lockstep every single damn time. It passed. Why make a list to send out to give them grief. Not all districts are safe

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
18. The list is useful information for me
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:30 PM
Jan 2020

This board including myself was upset when Gabbard voted present even though impeachment passed.

I didn't know who any of those people are but now I know who they are.

onenote

(42,758 posts)
6. are you in his district?
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 08:55 PM
Jan 2020

Cunningham was elected by a very narrow margin in a South Carolina district that had not elected a Democrat since 1981.

Romney won this district by 18 points. Trump won it by 13. Cook rates it as a Republican +10.

If you think he's a problem, imagine what his Republican successor would be like.

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
8. no.he will have a republican successor. That's why he's a problem.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 09:04 PM
Jan 2020

love the beard tho. and his smarts. he'll be back.

lapucelle

(18,309 posts)
5. Max Rose represents NY-11
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 08:46 PM
Jan 2020
Politically, it is the most conservative district in New York City, the only district in the city which leans towards the Republican Party in national elections, and until 2018, it was the only district covering part of the city to be represented by a Republican. Following the 2018 election, the Republicans were left without House representation in New York City for only the second time since the 1930s. The district has significant Italian-American, Jewish, Irish-American,and Russian-American, populations.

From 2003 to 2013, the 11th district was located entirely in Brooklyn and had a majority African-American population. Most of the territory located within the old 11th district is now located in New York's 9th congressional district. Prior to 2013, most of the territory currently located in the 11th district had been located in New York's 13th congressional district. The 11th district was the subject of The Colbert Report's Better Know a District segment on December 15, 2005 and September 4, 2012.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York%27s_11th_congressional_district

Congressman Max Rose defeated the incumbent Republican Dan Donovan in 2018. Donovan is the former DA who brought the Pantaleo - Garner case before the SI grand jury. "After the jury returned no indictment, Donovan's office strenuously opposed releasing the trial proceedings, citing New York confidentiality laws, despite being pressured by activists and lawmakers to release them."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Donovan_(politician)
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
13. It's true Staten Island always votes red just like Suffolk county and they are both full of racists.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 09:38 PM
Jan 2020

So as long as it passes we're good.

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
10. Sorry, I don't
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 09:21 PM
Jan 2020

I'm tired of people trying to rationalize their shitty votes.

Tired of the mindset that Democrats have to act like Republicans to win red districts.

It's not about having to act like a Democrat, it's just doing the hard work required to sell why your position should be their position and being intellectually honest with people.

It's about taking care in how you frame your responses.
You can still believe in everything AOC believes but you have to carry that message to your constituents in a way that makes sense to them.

It can be done, it just requires more effort that playing sycophant to a block if voters that are very unlikely to vote for you anyway.

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. I will too, at least for most of them. Here are the 8:
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:27 PM
Jan 2020

Brindisi - upstate NY, Utica - freshman - pass
Cunningham - SC - votes against Democrats almost every time - not getting a pass
Horn - Oklahoma City - freshman - pass
Luria - Virginia - freshman - pass
Gottheimer - northern NJ - not getting a pass
Murphy - panhandle of Florida - pass
McAdams - Salt Lake City Utah - freshman - meh?
Rose - Staten Island NY, - freshman, second Democrat since 1981, pass

Those are my assessments. YMMV.

onenote

(42,758 posts)
19. So you are conceding that a Republican would be better than Cunningham?
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 11:09 PM
Jan 2020

Because you're dreaming if you think a different Democrat could win in that District.

Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
9. Stephanie Murphy?
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 09:09 PM
Jan 2020

Sounds like she's getting turned. I suspected they would get to her. Usually happens through the business circles.

onenote

(42,758 posts)
20. Hopefully that won't be the case.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 11:11 PM
Jan 2020

The challengers won't win (or if they did, they'd be crushed in the general) and the money wasted in a primary would be better spent defeating Republicans in general elections.

onenote

(42,758 posts)
22. Giving seats to the Republicans is no way to save the country
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 11:30 PM
Jan 2020

If you didn't learn that in 2016 then I have nothing more to add.

onenote

(42,758 posts)
24. Saving the country is important. And holding seats is necessary to that.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 01:06 AM
Jan 2020

Take a moment and imagine what the situation would be if the Republicans still controlled the House. Imagine what it will be like if in 2020 Trump is reelected and has Republican majorities in the house and senate.

If that doesn't scare the shit out of you, you need to take another moment and think some more.

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