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Happyhippychick

(8,379 posts)
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 12:57 PM Sep 2012

When did you "know" Obama would win?

In the McCain/Obama election, I knew it when McCain "suspended" his campaign in order to fly to Washington to discuss the financial crisis. I called my brother and said, "I have two words for you. President Obama."

This time I knew it when I saw Clint Eastwood on stage.

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When did you "know" Obama would win? (Original Post) Happyhippychick Sep 2012 OP
When they called Ohio for him on election night. Arugula Latte Sep 2012 #1
I'm so glad I made a copy of Britt Hume breaking the news to Karl Rove rocktivity Sep 2012 #19
I was too afraid to hope even when they called Ohio. I was afraid of a Bush/Gore repeat catbyte Sep 2012 #30
When the GOP hierarchy brushed off the base's preference and picked McCain. onehandle Sep 2012 #2
For fun you should google "Fox News election night Obama wins Ohio" Happyhippychick Sep 2012 #3
Oh I know sharp_stick Sep 2012 #7
When RMoney became the "choice" -kind of like the last one picked for a ball team. NRaleighLiberal Sep 2012 #4
When Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods hifiguy Sep 2012 #5
When the electoral college cast their votes. LaydeeBug Sep 2012 #6
With impunity TroglodyteScholar Sep 2012 #43
When the votes are counted. andym Sep 2012 #8
I know he's got a great chance this time Warpy Sep 2012 #9
I think when he chose Palin, I also knew he had lost the election. n/t Cleita Sep 2012 #12
2008 n/t ocd liberal Sep 2012 #10
Me too. n/t Sophiegirl Sep 2012 #21
I knew it when I saw the Republican candidate lineup and Cleita Sep 2012 #11
By the GOP's doubling down on their contempt for the working class Populist_Prole Sep 2012 #13
shrub was such a disaster i never doubted it much, but lichtman's keys gave early confirmation unblock Sep 2012 #14
Obama's DNC speech 2004. The kid with the "funny name" (nt) apnu Sep 2012 #15
Me, too. VenusRising Sep 2012 #42
I saw a video of him speechifying ca. 2004. sofa king Sep 2012 #16
In 2008, I knew that Obama would win when McCain picked Palin rocktivity Sep 2012 #17
The moment after his South Carolina speech "Yes We Can" I have never had a doubt about reelection. Pisces Sep 2012 #18
This time it was watching Clinton's speech last night Qutzupalotl Sep 2012 #20
In 2008, it was when McCain stood in front of a sickly-green background and nervously chuckled: Shampoobra Sep 2012 #22
Yes, I remember it well rocktivity Sep 2012 #29
Poor lil fella Shampoobra Sep 2012 #33
Omg, I had forgotten that! You are so right! Happyhippychick Sep 2012 #37
Too soon. n/t progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #23
I knew it when he accepted the nomination Marrah_G Sep 2012 #24
I knew he wouldbe president someday in 2004 loyalsister Sep 2012 #25
When McCain picked an airhead as a running mate. savalez Sep 2012 #26
11:01 p.m. EST, November 4, 2008 catbyte Sep 2012 #27
November 2007 ieoeja Sep 2012 #28
If you "know" it for sure, you should go to Intrade and place a bet. Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #31
In the last cycle, I had a pretty good certainty that Obama would win after watching LanternWaste Sep 2012 #32
Honestly, I "thought" he'd win last time TDale313 Sep 2012 #34
I didnt know until the votes were counted Robyn66 Sep 2012 #35
LOL Mr Dixon Sep 2012 #36
When he didn't roll over during the lipstick on a pig nonsense. TheKentuckian Sep 2012 #38
When they couldn't call Indiana for McGramps/Mooseshit when it closed ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2012 #39
I knew it when I first read that Romney ... ananda Sep 2012 #40
When I was still a Hillary supporter and he gave a speech on race... cynatnite Sep 2012 #41
The first televised Republican debate last year. TeamPooka Sep 2012 #44
 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
1. When they called Ohio for him on election night.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 12:58 PM
Sep 2012

Before that, I was afraid they'd do a Florida 2000/Ohio 2004 style steal.

rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
19. I'm so glad I made a copy of Britt Hume breaking the news to Karl Rove
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:50 PM
Sep 2012

on Fox News. It's funny how you can't find that video now!


rocktivity

Happyhippychick

(8,379 posts)
3. For fun you should google "Fox News election night Obama wins Ohio"
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:00 PM
Sep 2012

You can watch them as it sinks in. It's delicious.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
7. Oh I know
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:02 PM
Sep 2012

you could just see the air get sucked out of that room when they called it. I remember watching that clip several times over the next couple of weeks.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
5. When Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:02 PM
Sep 2012

looked like a junior-high girl trying to flirt with the audience in the debate with Joe. I got the distinct feeling that Joe, behind his smile, was thinking to himself "is she really that stupid? Yep, she really is."

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
6. When the electoral college cast their votes.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:02 PM
Sep 2012

These people have stolen elections before. They make absolutely no bones that they intend to do it again. They lie without impunity.

I will believe it when I see it.

andym

(5,444 posts)
8. When the votes are counted.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:05 PM
Sep 2012

As far as I'm concerned, it's best to think the election is even (which the polls still say) and that the President needs to get all the contributions and work that we can give.

Warpy

(111,292 posts)
9. I know he's got a great chance this time
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:14 PM
Sep 2012

from the incredibly subdued RNC crowd, glued to their seats and golf clapping.

I knew in 2008 the second John McCain picked an empty headed, fading beauty queen as his VP nominee.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
11. I knew it when I saw the Republican candidate lineup and
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:19 PM
Sep 2012

realized that Mittens was their best choice. It doesn't mean that Mitt couldn't be President cause of the election fraud that is happening right now.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
13. By the GOP's doubling down on their contempt for the working class
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:21 PM
Sep 2012

They just don't get it; and I'm glad. Far be it for me to point out their mistakes to them!

unblock

(52,268 posts)
14. shrub was such a disaster i never doubted it much, but lichtman's keys gave early confirmation
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:32 PM
Sep 2012

here's a du post linking to an article about it from 2010, predicting a comfortable re-election:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x371983

since then only one key has changed, and that's gone in favor of obama, achieving a military success in killing bin laden.

at this point, rmoney needs to pray for a couple of EPIC fails on the part of obama (scandal AND foreign policy debacle) in order to have a chance. i don't see that as likely at all.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
16. I saw a video of him speechifying ca. 2004.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:38 PM
Sep 2012

When he was still a state senator, and as a legislative analyst I made sure to keep checking in on him regularly after that, because even back then he was unusually good at spelling out problems and offering solutions, which nobody else was doing very well back then.

In 2005, I remember telling a room full of my coworkers to keep an eye on that fellow, because he was something special. That was a fun day, with me the burned-out has-been white guy trying to convince a mailroom full of cynical black Washington, DC residents that a 3-forward had a decent shot at the White House. I hope they all remember that day, too.

What made Barack Obama so special back then was that when everyone was chasing the latest red herring Rove's gangsters dragged across the path, the young Senator was already talking about the results of the Bush Administration, and how to fix the damage they were doing.

In my own mind, President Obama's reelection has been almost a foregone conclusion since December, 2010. The first tax cut extension negotiations were when I realized that not only was this President excellent at what he did, he was a genius by comparison to other Presidents, even other Democratic Presidents, who seem to have a 40 IQ point edge over the other side.

Part of the way this President protects himself is by feigning vulnerability. This election might be in the bag in his own mind, but he is always careful to acknowledge the stakes and the difficulties ahead, allowing us the voters to shoulder some of the responsibility. He has also expanded his objectives toward flipping the House and holding on to the Senate in a grimly unbalanced year.

Now it is our responsibility. Remember to vote all-D, my friends!

rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
17. In 2008, I knew that Obama would win when McCain picked Palin
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:46 PM
Sep 2012

Last edited Wed Jul 7, 2021, 08:31 AM - Edit history (10)

because Palin's youth and inexperience took away McCain's strongest and most legitimate weapon against Obama -- OBAMA'S youth and inexperience!

In a similiar vein, I believe this election is over as long as rMoney refuses to show more income tax returns, because it's taken away HIS strongest and most legitimate weapon against Obama -- equal footing with independent voters. It's not equal anymore:


Of course, criticizing Obama for not having enough business experience while his running mate has even less doesn't help, either.


rocktivity

Qutzupalotl

(14,319 posts)
20. This time it was watching Clinton's speech last night
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:53 PM
Sep 2012

where he dismantled the entire foundation of the Republican's deceit.

Shampoobra

(423 posts)
22. In 2008, it was when McCain stood in front of a sickly-green background and nervously chuckled:
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:55 PM
Sep 2012

(heh heh) "THAT'S not change we can believe in..."

It was really kind of sad. He was using the moment to try to draw attention away from a big moment for Obama. (It was something like Obama's first speech since becoming the presumed nominee.)

A McCain supporter in the same room as I was so embarrassed he was shaking his bowed head from side to side. McCain was trying to be enthusiastic and charismatic, but he kept pulling back, resulting in a lot of nervous chuckling that seemed to indicate: Please don't make me do this. Please just elect me so I can stop trying to pretend to be something I'm not.

In 2012, it was last night, during Bill Clinton's speech.

Trying to be as brutally objective as I could, I realized: We have it, and they don't. It's that simple.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
24. I knew it when he accepted the nomination
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:01 PM
Sep 2012

I am not quite as sure this time. There are alot of ignorant people out there with alot of lies being thrown at them. There is also alot of effort being put into making sure less Democratic voters can vote.

I am hopeful but not as confident.

catbyte

(34,412 posts)
27. 11:01 p.m. EST, November 4, 2008
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:09 PM
Sep 2012

I still remember being surprised when ABC called the election for President Obama 1 minute after the polls closed on the west coast. Looking back on it, I don't know why it shocked me, but it did. I didn't have cable or satellite at the time, only a local ABC outlet with fuzzy reception. I remember sitting there with tears streaming down my face, the relief was stronger than almost anything I ever felt. I could not believe we had finally seen the last of Bush. It chokes me up a little just thinking about it.



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"Dogs Aren’t Luggage--HISS!”

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
28. November 2007
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:12 PM
Sep 2012

I figured that he, as a Democrat who was immensely popular with the rural base in Iowa and Illinois, had a big city base, and would be acceptable to a decent portion of the suburban base, was a shoe-in.

Having grown up on a farm, endured college, started my career in the suburbs and ended up in the city, I have long felt that a city/country coalition is more natural than the city/suburb coalition the DLC has crafted.


Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
31. If you "know" it for sure, you should go to Intrade and place a bet.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:18 PM
Sep 2012

The odds there give Obama about a 60% chance of winning. So for every $60 you bet, you'll get back $100 when Obama wins.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
32. In the last cycle, I had a pretty good certainty that Obama would win after watching
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:19 PM
Sep 2012

In the last cycle, I had a pretty good certainty that Obama would win after watching Couric's interview with Palin and then listening to her and her proxies' complaints about Couric's "gotcha" questions.

This time around, my certainty was cemented in place when I watched the GOP debates... gaffe after gaffe, mistake after mistake has me asking myself, "this is the best they have? Really??"

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
34. Honestly, I "thought" he'd win last time
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:11 PM
Sep 2012

After the economy tanked and McCain suspended his campaign. But I was nervous until the results started coming in.

This time, although it's hard to pinpoint when, I'm really feeling like Obama is gonna win this one.

Robyn66

(1,675 posts)
35. I didnt know until the votes were counted
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:18 PM
Sep 2012

I wouldnt dare say I know now. I dont doubt there is a good chance they will try and steal it. Voter supression scares the hell out of me. There is too much money around and too many sneaky crooked bastards out there. It isnt over till its over.

Mr Dixon

(1,185 posts)
36. LOL
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:18 PM
Sep 2012

When I got home that night they were counting southern VA and it didn’t look good, however I learned that Northern VA runs the state and soon as north VA was counted it was a wrap. I was fist pumping in the front yard.

ananda

(28,868 posts)
40. I knew it when I first read that Romney ...
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 05:50 PM
Sep 2012

... would not release his tax records.

That was a few weeks ago I think.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
41. When I was still a Hillary supporter and he gave a speech on race...
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 05:53 PM
Sep 2012

I knew it then.

As for now, I'm not sure just yet. I think his chances are good. The reason is because the Rmoney Super PACs haven't even started. Rmoney is pulling ads in battlegrounds. Super PACs are going to take their place and carpet bomb those states.

I won't say he's got it won until probably mid to late Sept when I've seen what they throw at him and how he reacts.

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