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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:22 AM Jan 2020

Cal Perry NBC: Iraqi PM tells Parliament that US troops should leave the country. (Updated)



Cal Perry ✔ @CalNBC

Incredible: Iraqi PM tells Parliament that US troops should leave the country.

9:10 AM - Jan 5, 2020 · Doha, Qatar


Long past due, but exiting like this (forced out) is shameful.

Update:



Farnaz Fassihi ✔ @farnazfassihi

BREAKING; #Iraq parliament votes to expel US military from Iraq.
PM Abdul Mahdi: “It’s time for American troops to leave.”
Wow.


Farnaz Fassihi ✔ @farnazfassihi

Iraq PM says Gen. Soleimani was his guest & US strike was illegal.
Moqtada Sadr calls for closing of US embassy in Baghdad.


9:41 AM - Jan 5, 2020

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Cal Perry NBC: Iraqi PM tells Parliament that US troops should leave the country. (Updated) (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 OP
Inside the parliament hall Sunday, lawmakers chanted "America out!" dalton99a Jan 2020 #1
Wait! Bush/Iraq signed withdrawal agreement in 2008!!!!! OhNo-Really Jan 2020 #31
Going to be a clusterfuck, gab13by13 Jan 2020 #2
"Hey wait a tick, if there's a war... they're gonna use our streets and yards as the battleground!" ck4829 Jan 2020 #3
Puppet master Putin pulling strings. ...... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2020 #4
Not sure Russia "needs oil". Vinnie From Indy Jan 2020 #7
not sure there is any such thing as enough oil, when that's mopinko Jan 2020 #11
It's about control. defacto7 Jan 2020 #30
Exactly. paleotn Jan 2020 #38
True, but having a strong influence over oil in Iraq and Iran just makes Russia stronger. patphil Jan 2020 #43
Russia has plenty of oil.... paleotn Jan 2020 #37
Good! We need to be out. We never should have been there in the first place. If Raven Jan 2020 #5
Imagine if 500 FL Nader voters stayed home that day... Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #8
112,911 NJCher Jan 2020 #32
All we needed was 500 (give or take 100) Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #33
He's right. Corgigal Jan 2020 #6
It is time. kentuck Jan 2020 #9
Also, Trump has said he wants to draw down the troops in that part of the world. llmart Jan 2020 #35
Additional info here: TubbersUK Jan 2020 #10
"Stunning" doesn't even cover it... Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #13
If Soleimani was actually on a mission of peace Martin Eden Jan 2020 #15
The shart of the deal. tanyev Jan 2020 #22
Did IQ45.... paleotn Jan 2020 #39
Putin for the win. C_U_L8R Jan 2020 #12
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2020 #17
Mission Accomplished! UpInArms Jan 2020 #14
FUCKIN WOW !!! uponit7771 Jan 2020 #16
Yes, and Double WOW!! if this is true: TubbersUK Jan 2020 #19
Military personnel are in grave danger Liberalhammer Jan 2020 #18
Bingo. paleotn Jan 2020 #40
So, the brilliant foreign policy expert is turning Iraq over to Iran. sinkingfeeling Jan 2020 #20
+1, Putin's whole body is shivering daily for the last week. uponit7771 Jan 2020 #21
This action edhopper Jan 2020 #23
Putin has denounced the US attack. BigmanPigman Jan 2020 #24
To Trump, that's the deepest cut of any... n/t Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #25
+1. Russia Says Iran General's Killing 'Illegal' dalton99a Jan 2020 #26
So now shithole and his F up administration is Iliyah Jan 2020 #27
Which makes this decision all the more confounding Roland99 Jan 2020 #36
For us, yes. For him, no. paleotn Jan 2020 #41
Trump has handed ISIS several gifts in the last few months. Lonestarblue Jan 2020 #28
So has Trump told the troops to take the oil when they leave. He said it's OUR oil we fought for it. usaf-vet Jan 2020 #29
Well that's gratitude for ya - who's next- Turkey? NBachers Jan 2020 #34
Already gone. paleotn Jan 2020 #42

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
31. Wait! Bush/Iraq signed withdrawal agreement in 2008!!!!!
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:36 AM
Jan 2020

To be completed in 2011

Which Obama honored

Do we have amnesia?


17 November – The US and the Iraqi Government sign the US-Iraq Status of Forces Agreement providing for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraqi cities by 30 June 2009 and a complete withdrawal of US forces from Iraq by the end of 2011.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_in_Iraq

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
4. Puppet master Putin pulling strings. ......
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:25 AM
Jan 2020

He wants a strong hold in Iraq, Syria, and strengthen ties with Iran. Russia needs oil, a Gulf port.

mopinko

(70,138 posts)
11. not sure there is any such thing as enough oil, when that's
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:38 AM
Jan 2020

your entire economy.
that's why they are in ukraine. they are in the oil regions.

w sanctions they are more worried about getting what they have out of the ground, but....

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
37. Russia has plenty of oil....
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 12:15 PM
Jan 2020

but what they've rarely had was an unencumbered, warm water port. It's more geography Putin is after than petroleum. And to degrade American influence in a region still vital to western industrial economies. Control of the west's economic lifeline in the Middle East has been a Russian wet dream since the 50's.

Raven

(13,895 posts)
5. Good! We need to be out. We never should have been there in the first place. If
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:26 AM
Jan 2020

leaving is a humiliation it's because we have an idiot for a President.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
33. All we needed was 500 (give or take 100)
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:40 AM
Jan 2020

...or for that stupid butterfly ballot design to have been rejected.

kentuck

(111,104 posts)
9. It is time.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:29 AM
Jan 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212836480

Opinion: Maybe this is the time to withdraw troops from Iraq?
Whatever goodwill we may have nurtured is surely usurped by now?

What better time to leave a country, that votes tomorrow for us to leave?

We should not stay where we are not welcome.

If the country is not self-sufficient by now, there is no more we can do.

Also, Trump has said he wants to draw down the troops in that part of the world.

Iraq would be a good place to start, in my opinion.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
35. Also, Trump has said he wants to draw down the troops in that part of the world.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:53 AM
Jan 2020

Only now he's sending more troops to that part of the world.

TubbersUK

(1,439 posts)
10. Additional info here:
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:35 AM
Jan 2020

?s=20


@janearraf
This is stunning - #Iraq prime minister tells parliament US troops should leave. Says
@realDonaldTrump called him to ask him to mediate with #Iran and then ordered drone strike on Soleimani. Says Soleimani carrying response to Saudi initiative to defuse tension when he was hit.
2:05 PM · Jan 5, 2020·Twitter Web App

Martin Eden

(12,872 posts)
15. If Soleimani was actually on a mission of peace
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:49 AM
Jan 2020

Then this is a real political bombshell -- especially if US intel or State Dept. knew about it.

I hope the Iraqi government makes a formal decision to tell us to get out.

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
39. Did IQ45....
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 12:26 PM
Jan 2020

just fuck things up for everyone? Including the Saudis? I would suspect Bin Salman doesn't want an actual war in the Persian Gulf. Petty nitpicking with Iran over influence and control is one thing. No one with half a fucking brain would want a real shooting war there, particularly if they live in the neighborhood and their economic infrastructure is at risk. But then again, the Saudis have been playing a very dangerous game and are subject to blow back just like the rest of us.

 

Liberalhammer

(576 posts)
18. Military personnel are in grave danger
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:54 AM
Jan 2020

They are sitting ducks.

Without the support of the Iraqi government, its open season on them.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
36. Which makes this decision all the more confounding
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:54 AM
Jan 2020

Since when has Twitler ever done anything that didn’t benefit Putin

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
41. For us, yes. For him, no.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 12:28 PM
Jan 2020

He's an ole KGB man. Don't listen to a damn word he says. Just watch what he does and keep in mind what's in his interest.

Lonestarblue

(10,024 posts)
28. Trump has handed ISIS several gifts in the last few months.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:21 AM
Jan 2020

Soliemani was the most effective leader fighting against ISIS, and who knows whether his successor will be as effective. The Iraqis have also now voted to eject US troops from their country, opening the door for ISIS to regroup. Trump’s decision to betray our Kurd allies in Syria has also pushed the Kurds to fight for their own lives instead of continuing to fight ISIS.

Trump doesn’t actually care about ISIS because they attack targets mostly in Europe, and Trump has done his best to turn our allies there into enemies. He certainly is a leader they no longer follow, and if Trump starts war with Iran the US will be alone with no allies. Unfortunately, Trump’s rabid supporters will see war in the Middle East as the start of the end times and will be cheering him on so they can finally bring about the Rapture.

usaf-vet

(6,189 posts)
29. So has Trump told the troops to take the oil when they leave. He said it's OUR oil we fought for it.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:25 AM
Jan 2020

Sorry for the at a time like this.

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
42. Already gone.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 12:32 PM
Jan 2020

A member of NATO on paper only. Haven't been an actual NATO member since Erdogan. Then again, the Turks were never all that reliable. Simply beneficiaries of cold war geography.

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