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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 11:54 AM Sep 2012

How did 12 million Apple device IDs end up with FBI?

Last edited Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:05 PM - Edit history (1)

AntiSec hackers leak 1,000,001 Apple device IDs allegedly obtained from FBI breach

The AntiSec hacking group claims to have released a set of more than 1 million Apple Unique Device Identifiers (UDIDs) obtained from breaching the FBI.
The group claims to have over 12 million IDs,as well as personal information such as user names, device names, notification tokens, cell phone numbers and addresses.


They published the UDID numbers to call attention to suspicions that the FBI used the information to track citizens.
http://thenextweb.com/apple/2012/09/04/antisec-hackers-leak-1000001-apple-device-ids-allegedly-obtained-fbi-breach/

Update: The TNW tech team has built a tool to let you check whether your device was included in the list.
http://thenextweb.com/apple/2012/09/04/heres-check-apple-device-udid-compromised-antisec-leak/

story also on The Atlantic Wire:
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/technology/2012/09/what-was-fbi-doing-12-million-apple-ids-anyway/56492/

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randome

(34,845 posts)
1. Don't believe everything you read.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 11:59 AM
Sep 2012

Sure, the FBI can't exactly be trusted. But neither can anonymous hackers. May as well flip a coin.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
4. Using your logic...
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 12:13 PM
Sep 2012

Last edited Thu Sep 6, 2012, 12:55 PM - Edit history (1)

"Don't believe everything you read".
I can trust a coin flip to determine the veractiy of your statement.

Since I got the story off the Apple website, it has a certain credibilty.
Correction:
The Atlantic Wire

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/technology/2012/09/what-was-fbi-doing-12-million-apple-ids-anyway/56492/

Meanwhile, the group has posted on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/AnonymousIRC

SunsetDreams

(8,571 posts)
9. How is "TNW" Apples website?
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 12:32 PM
Sep 2012

It's a serious question, I wasn't aware the two companies were related.


Here is Apples website http://www.apple.com/

What you linked to is The Next Web(TNW)

Since I got the story off the Apple website, it has a certain credibilty.


 

randome

(34,845 posts)
11. My point is that the hackers claim one thing, the FBI says they didn't get the IDs from them.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 12:37 PM
Sep 2012

Now maybe the FBI is trying to mitigate the problem and lying but, hey, anonymous hackers lie, too.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
14. I hear ya..
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:19 PM
Sep 2012

And what I was saying was that Anonymous is claiming credit.
And has posted ways to look at the data.


AnonymousIRC ?@AnonymousIRC
@KimZetter They did not deny that.

FBI apparently said that "at this time they have no evidence". That is far from denial; they don't know.

https://twitter.com/AnonymousIRC


hlthe2b

(102,311 posts)
5. Right... as I am paying for TWO concurrent full internet security packages for my windows PC's AND
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 12:17 PM
Sep 2012

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STILL have to periodically scan with two additional dupe malware/trojan detectors, since even the most cautious practices are far from completely protective if one uses the internet at all.

yeah, the non apple products are surely so much MORE secure.

CountAllVotes

(20,876 posts)
8. Yep
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 12:24 PM
Sep 2012

Its a lot of work keeping computer up-to-date and all of these scans and crap you have to run all of the time.

I'm glad I don't have any equipment that is real up-to-date.

I have an old laptop that remembers nothing but it still works oddly. Has Windows 2000 on it which is a dinosaur.

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
3. we get the government we deserve
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 12:09 PM
Sep 2012

no one wants to fight for social justice, civil rights, government encroachment on privacy, then live with it, deal with it.

point being, shut off the fucking devices, eat the teevees, and GO AT THEM bro.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
6. Try plotting a 21st Cen. rebellion without a cell phone, laptop and TV.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 12:19 PM
Sep 2012

Think about it.

The problem is, the same technology makes it so easy to monitor, ID, profile and map out anyone and everyone who's trying to do it.

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
7. you can't lynch wall street capitalist gangsters with an iPhone
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 12:22 PM
Sep 2012

there is no app for that.

rope or neckties work better.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
10. You can't get within 300 meters to do it that way, either.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 12:35 PM
Sep 2012

Lynchings are for Klansmen. I hope your comment was just hyperbole.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
13. which is why THIS is unsettling
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:03 PM
Sep 2012

Apple has patented a piece of technology which would allow government and police to block transmission of information, including video and photographs, from any public gathering or venue they deem “sensitive”, and “protected from externalities.”

­In other words, these powers will have control over what can and cannot be documented on wireless devices during any public event.

And while the company says the affected sites are to be mostly cinemas, theaters, concert grounds and similar locations, Apple Inc. also says “covert police or government operations may require complete ‘blackout’ conditions.”

so far the only link I have found is on RT
http://rt.com/news/apple-patent-transmission-block-408/

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
15. Local area cell phone transmission jammers been around for years - not Apple proprietary technology
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:03 PM
Sep 2012

Such devices are sold commercially to anyone in law enforcement with an FCC license.

I'm more concerned about the gov't's ability to selectively take down thousands of websites simultaneously in the event of an "emergency." That would leave e-commerce unaffected, while silencing the opposition. Like our good buddies, China and Saudi Arabia.

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