The talking heads are saying we will win in a war with Iran.

[brush]

IIRC that was also said about a war with Iraq.

[maxsolomon]

1. what does victory look like?

oil at $200 a barrel?

[braddy]

2. We export oil.

[at140]

5. If we are now net exporter of oil, $200 oil would be a victory

for United States Oil barons, not necessarily for 95% of Americans who will pay more at the gas pump.

However every was US started in middle-east (Iraq, Libya etc) caused more negative results than positive results. This is why China is beating us in trade. China has not started any wars. They are busy winning the trade war all over the world. That is why Chinese economy is 10 times bigger than Russia, even though Russia has 10 times natural resources China has.

[braddy]

7. Money isn't everything in life.

[at140]

9. No it isn't everything

it is the only thing!......borrowed from coach Vince Lombardi

[braddy]

10. My favorite coach, and my favorite team, and my favorite football era, I'll have to restructure my

life now.

[at140]

11. yeah a great coach and a great football era but

I lived in Chicago all those years.

[braddy]

16. I was in Houston, but I loved the tough form of football they played, physical.

[at140]

20. I am slowly losing interest in football due to

too many penalties for holding and pass interference.
And they are subjective based on what the referee thinks.

So yes, I liked the football of that Lombardi era better where the game was physically tough.

[braddy]

23. I quit watching sports many decades ago. Shortly after high school I figured out that I don't really

care what those strangers do with a ball, win/lose, win/lose, wasted and meaningless passion, I decided to concentrate on females instead, which come to think of it, was similar.

[jpak]

25. Good - you can fill my oil tank

at $5 a gallon x 300 gallons.

It's not the only thing in life after all!!1111

[John Fante]

26. Craving a war with Iran, are we?

[braddy]

27. Not at all, we don't need such personal attacks.

[Norbert]

8. Crude has been between $5 -$10 lower than Brent for quite a while

I think it will follow market trends no matter what.

[Strelnikov_]

28. No, we import more oil than Russia exports n/t

[braddy]

29. We are a net exporter of oil.

[Strelnikov_]

30. You are cracked n/t

[braddy]

31. Does that mean that you didn't know that, or what?

[Strelnikov_]

33. Means its time for an adjustment

In 2018, the United States produced about 17.7 million barrels of petroleum per day (MMb/d), and it consumed about 20.5 MMb/d. Imports from other countries help to supply domestic demand for petroleum.

[braddy]

34. Check the current figures "In November 2019, the United States became a net exporter of all oil

products, including both refined petroleum products and crude oil."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_energy_independence

[Strelnikov_]

35. Sorry, wikipedia is not a source n/t

[braddy]

36. It was a simple source for something that is common knowledge because it has been widely reported,

continue to believe what you choose to believe.

[lapfog_1]

3. yup

And the Shah returned to the throne.

Savak controlling the population.

Iran and Iraq oil to Exxon.

this is what thry want, but will never happen.

[Wounded Bear]

4. Which talking heads are you listening to? nt

[maxsolomon]

14. OPs like this always prompt that question for me

I wish they were more specific.

On Fox, Interchangeable Neocon Asshole #132 said X.

[brush]

17. Missing the point. We didn't win the Iraq war.

[maxsolomon]

22. I'm well aware of that.

As you're no doubt aware that "Talking Heads" is as generic as "the MSM".

Malcolm Nance is a "talking head". So is Rick Santorum. There's a vast difference between them, but you erased it.

[brush]

24. Still missing it. Didn't think I had to tell progressives it was from right-

leaning talking heads, especially since I also added we didn't win in Iraq either as was also promised.

[brush]

15. That's not the point. We didn't win the Iraq war.

[Downtown Hound]

6. Even if true, who the hell cares?

At this point, winning is losing. It will just enable the warmongers to start more wars in the future.

[brush]

12. We know it's not true. We didn't win the Iraq war.

[onethatcares]

13. let's send the talking heads.

load em in a chopper, give them some guns, tell them they have a choice.

start motor and win war, or stand in front of the camera and tell us all they lie.

fuck I'm tired of spending money on war.

If I acted the way the u.s. of a. does in my neighborhood, the police would be here in seconds and I'd be baker acted.

[Voltaire2]

18. We won in Afghanistan too.

Which is why we are still fighting there.

[brush]

21. Exactly.

[louis-t]

19. But Iran is 3 times the size of Iraq.

With 3 times the population. Oh yeah, cakewalk.

[guillaumeb]

32. And Vietnam as well.

History does repeat.