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Trump's Order to Assassinate Qasem Soleimani Has Kicked Over the Hornet's Nest
We are hearing the echoes of 2002 and 2003 rising again after the president ordered the assassination of Iran's second most powerful man.
BY CHARLES P. PIERCE
JAN 3, 2020
Three years ago, El Caudillo del Mar-a-Lago, like 99.99 percent of his fellow citizens, did not have the faintest idea what the Quds Force was, and he wouldnt have known who the hell Qasem Soleimani was if the man sat in his lap. In the aftermath of his astonishingly reckless decision to take Soleimani out on Thursday, a number of the president*s previous public statements have been unearthed. Many of them were ancient warnings that Barack Obama intended to start a war with Iran in order to be re-elected in 2012. These are further proof enough of his bone-deep mendacity, but more compelling was a radio interview he did with Hugh Hewitt while running for president himself four years later....
So here, as 2020 begins, the president* launches a unilateral military action to kill the second-most important figure in the Iranian government, the man who commanded the forces that the president* previously confused with our allies, the Kurds, whom he previously sold out on the battlefield. So no, I have absolutely no confidence that the American government as it is currently run has the vaguest idea what to do next....
Instead, the president* tweeted out the image of an American flag. An official Pentagon briefing pointedly said that the action had been taken at the order of the president*. The State Department warned Americans to get the hell out of Iraq, but not to come to the massive American embassy. Americans are urged to leave by airplane if possible but, if necessary, to escape by land, although where the hell theyre supposed to goSyria?was left unexplained. But the Americans should get out of Iraq, a place that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told CNN on Friday morning is safer now that Soleimani is dead....
The stated policy of this administration* is the utter disruption of the Iranian government as a prelude to regime change. We tried this in the 1950s and Iran got 20 years of a police state. Does anyone seriously believe that an Iranian regime that rises from American policy will have the faintest credibility with most Iranians? We tried that in Iraq, which is why Qasem Soleiman found such a target-rich environment there. And any split in the current Iranian regime over the now-abandoned nuclear deal likely has been smoothed over. And god only knows what will happen in Iraq as a result of this. This policy is kick-over-the-hornets-nest at its worst. Maybe its all just to keep John Bolton from testifying to the Senate. Thats as good an explanation as any.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a30389099/iran-qasem-soleimani-assassinated-trump/
bluestarone
(16,940 posts)Drop him into Iran! I want the fucker alive when he hits the ground!!
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)Both al Qaeda and ISIL were pretty weakened by the time those events took place.
The common description I keep reading in tweets and hearing on TV is "uncharted".
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,446 posts)Japanese Officers Celebrate, Yamamoto Warns in "Tora Tora Tora"
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While Japanese Officers celebrate victory at Pearl Harbor on Yamamoto's flag ship, Yamamoto warns them about the might of the United States and their will to fight. In 1943, Yamamoto flew to visit his troops and was shot down by a squadron of USAAC P-38 Lightnings.
I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.
Isoroku Yamamoto
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)But, yes, this is a "below the belt" blow that forces Iran to react, much like the Pearl harbor attack.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,446 posts)Another point: Trump has spent the last three years saying the U.S. intelligence community is not to be trusted (in fact, said that he trusts Putin more than he does them) but when needed, his loyalists invoke...U.S. intelligence.
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NEVER thought I would agree with Geraldo
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Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)...but he's diverging from him on this?
I think the chair thing did more damage than just to his nose...
bucolic_frolic
(43,161 posts)like, 'we're not responsible for this hot potato!'
What happened to the adults in the room who were going to protect America? All fired?
Pierce is as astute as anybody.