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MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 11:04 AM Jan 2020

A Suggestion: Don't Fly US Airline Planes in the Middle East

There are far too many portable ground to air missiles in that region in the hands of potential terrorists. US airlines will be a natural and easy target for any forces seeking revenge for the assassination of the Iranian General.

If you must fly to or from that region, choose an airline that is not American-owned. Fly to a destination in Europe and connect there with a flight to your destination.

Many people will be hurrying to leave that region. Airliners are soft targets for terrorism.

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A Suggestion: Don't Fly US Airline Planes in the Middle East (Original Post) MineralMan Jan 2020 OP
You're so right. Unfortunately, it's probably just a matter of time. Firestorm49 Jan 2020 #1
Well, there's nothing I can do to prevent anything. MineralMan Jan 2020 #2
Wasn't it the US that bombed an Iranian jet full of people malaise Jan 2020 #3
I don't remember that. Could be. MineralMan Jan 2020 #4
Here - Reagan was President malaise Jan 2020 #7
Thanks! MineralMan Jan 2020 #8
And there will be kidnapping and murder of Americans on the ground dalton99a Jan 2020 #5
Yes, probably. MineralMan Jan 2020 #6

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
2. Well, there's nothing I can do to prevent anything.
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 11:39 AM
Jan 2020

So, I'm offering some common-sense advice to people who might be looking for a flight.

There's no shortage of shoulder-fired ground-to-air missiles in that region. The United States has sent thousands of them over there over the years. There are also Russian and Chinese versions circulating around in the region.

For example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIM-92_Stinger

And this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-portable_air-defense_system



malaise

(268,998 posts)
7. Here - Reagan was President
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 11:46 AM
Jan 2020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

Iran Air Flight 655 was a scheduled passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai via Bandar Abbas, that was shot down on 3 July 1988 by an SM-2MR surface-to-air missile fired from USS Vincennes, a guided missile cruiser of the United States Navy. The aircraft, an Airbus A300, was destroyed and all 290 people on board, including 66 children, were killed.[1] The jet was hit while flying over Iran's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf, along the flight's usual route, shortly after departing Bandar Abbas International Airport, the flight's stopover location. Vincennes had entered Iranian territory after one of its helicopters drew warning fire from Iranian speedboats operating within Iranian territorial limits.[2][3]

The reason for the shootdown has been disputed between the governments of the two countries. According to the United States government, the crew of USS Vincennes had incorrectly identified the Airbus as an attacking F-14 Tomcat, a U.S.-made jet fighter that had been part of the Iranian Air Force inventory since the 1970s. While the F-14s had been supplied to Iran in an air-to-air configuration,[4][5] the crew of the guided missile cruiser had been briefed that the Iranian F-14s were equipped with air-to-ground ordnance.[6] Vincennes had made ten attempts to contact the aircraft on both military and civilian radio frequencies, but had received no response.[7] The International Civil Aviation Organization said that the flight crew should have been monitoring the civilian frequency.[8] According to the Iranian government, the cruiser negligently shot down the aircraft, which was transmitting IFF squawks in Mode III, a signal that identified it as a civilian aircraft, and not Mode II as used by Iranian military aircraft.[9][10] The event generated a great deal of criticism of the United States. Some analysts blamed the captain of Vincennes, William C. Rogers III, for overly-aggressive behavior in a tense and dangerous environment.[7][11] In the days immediately following the incident, US President Ronald Reagan issued a written diplomatic note to the Iranian government, expressing deep regret.[12]
In 1996, the governments of the United States and Iran reached a settlement at the International Court of Justice which included the statement "...the United States recognized the aerial incident of 3 July 1988 as a terrible human tragedy and expressed deep regret over the loss of lives caused by the incident..."[13] As part of the settlement, even though the U.S. government did not admit legal liability or formally apologize to Iran, it still agreed to pay US$61.8 million on an ex gratia basis, amounting to $213,103.45 per passenger, in compensation to the families of the Iranian victims.[14]

The shootdown is the deadliest aviation disaster involving an Airbus A300, as well as the deadliest to occur in Iran.[15][16][17]
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