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Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 03:28 AM Jan 2020

I wonder if the media will uncover that Trump started this war under the direction of Putin?

Trump wants a distraction to take the public's mind off the impeachment.
Putin knows this and reportedly, Trump was on a call with Putin shortly before the drone strikes.
Trump is too dense to come up with a plan himself but Putin could have suggested this, telling Trump it will push impeachment into the background.

I'm sure Putin would be delighted for the US and Iran to be locked in a major war while he just sits back and watches them blow themselves to pieces.

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I wonder if the media will uncover that Trump started this war under the direction of Putin? (Original Post) Kablooie Jan 2020 OP
I'm not so sure that Putin wants a full blown war with Iran, gab13by13 Jan 2020 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #2
we know Trump is OWNED by Putin Skittles Jan 2020 #4
We know that Putin owns Trump. SHOULDN'T THE GOP SENATORS? But they are hell bent on protecting 45. usaf-vet Jan 2020 #6
THEY are owned, too Skittles Jan 2020 #12
EXACTLY! My family alone WW I, WW II, Vietnam and Middle East. usaf-vet Jan 2020 #13
you know it Skittles Jan 2020 #22
Have you been paying the least amount of attention to how many Trumps actions benefit Russia? uponit7771 Jan 2020 #10
Putin informed before us? StClone Jan 2020 #11
Welcome to DU. LuckyCharms Jan 2020 #17
Obvious Russian troll. milestogo Jan 2020 #19
or just a MAGAt Skittles Jan 2020 #23
That and I wonder if putin had a hand in the duforsure Jan 2020 #3
Sure Putin tells Trump what to do, gab13by13 Jan 2020 #5
Nope and 2naSalit Jan 2020 #7
The media will be too busy waving the flag, just like they did with Iraq. VOX Jan 2020 #8
You've nailed it! The media won't find anything FakeNoose Jan 2020 #24
Yup. But don't forget Pompeo and Pence too. Hortensis Jan 2020 #9
Oil prices spike. Kid Berwyn Jan 2020 #14
Russia and Iran are generally allies DeminPennswoods Jan 2020 #15
This makes sense, thanks. The knee-jerk response to blame Putin for everything enough Jan 2020 #18
I suspect putin is behind all of this for trump duforsure Jan 2020 #16
It will come out eventually. GoCubsGo Jan 2020 #20
Well, Pompeo says he briefed Russia DesertRat Jan 2020 #21

gab13by13

(21,337 posts)
1. I'm not so sure that Putin wants a full blown war with Iran,
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 05:49 AM
Jan 2020

I think that Putin wants a full blown war between the US and Shias in Iraq. Putin is allied with Iran, and Putin recently met with the head of Iran in Moscow. We sure have shit all over the poor people of Iraq, I can see why they hate us.

Response to Kablooie (Original post)

usaf-vet

(6,186 posts)
6. We know that Putin owns Trump. SHOULDN'T THE GOP SENATORS? But they are hell bent on protecting 45.
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 06:32 AM
Jan 2020

So they must favor yet another war in the middle east over getting rid of Trump.

It is not their sons and daughters who will be fighting the war.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
12. THEY are owned, too
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 06:45 AM
Jan 2020

they know who helped Trump got "elected"

fact: *I* (and you) spent more time serving in the military than THE ENTIRE TRUMP FAMILY COMBINED

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
22. you know it
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 06:31 PM
Jan 2020

my grandfather spent a week on the beach at Dunkirk - you can't find SHIT for military service from the entitled Trump freaks

StClone

(11,683 posts)
11. Putin informed before us?
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 06:41 AM
Jan 2020

Yes. Did Putin sign off on this, yes. Is this going to lead to further conflict which will likely harm future US interests, calculated to help re-elect Trump, likely. Trump and Putin are separated at birth and Putin will let this strike be part of his effort to get his puppet re-elected.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
3. That and I wonder if putin had a hand in the
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 06:07 AM
Jan 2020

Embassy uprising. I think he is behind this for redirection for trump now.

gab13by13

(21,337 posts)
5. Sure Putin tells Trump what to do,
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 06:19 AM
Jan 2020

but so does Bibi. Bibi has wanted to kill this man for a long time. Am I being anti-Semitic by saying this?

VOX

(22,976 posts)
8. The media will be too busy waving the flag, just like they did with Iraq.
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 06:35 AM
Jan 2020

The big questions will go unheard over the din of war-cries, “concern” about retaliation in one form or another, and “regime change.”

We’ve seen this nauseating show before. Multiple times.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
15. Russia and Iran are generally allies
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 07:27 AM
Jan 2020

Seems unlikely Putin would encourage the US to attack a Russian ally. If the post in another thread citing commentary that Iran and Iraq were becoming more friendly toward each other is correct, it makes even less sense.

What makes more sense to me is that Trump was ginned up by MBS (Saudi Arabia) or Netanyahu or both to do this. Both Saudi Arabia and Israel see Iran as an existential threat to them and those two leaders appear to be especially influential with Trump. The bonus of distracting from impeachment is probably something Trump could've easily thought up himself.

enough

(13,259 posts)
18. This makes sense, thanks. The knee-jerk response to blame Putin for everything
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 08:59 AM
Jan 2020

can get in the way of actual thought sometimes.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
16. I suspect putin is behind all of this for trump
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 07:28 AM
Jan 2020

And they have moles who regularly inform them before big things come out exposing them, so this is to redirect attention away from impeachment and putin. Will putin now use his hackers to cyber attack our infrastructure systems to then blame Iran to escalate a war? They attacked our election installing trump and now are trying t blame the Ukraine for it, so is this the same pattern from putin and trump? I think so. trump and putin can make billions from it from market manipulation, rerouting funding into their pockets from higher oil prices, and corruption. They can water down all impeachment news and new exposures against them with this. I think this was purposely done for trump by putin.

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
20. It will come out eventually.
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 09:04 AM
Jan 2020

Although, I'm not convinced that Putin is behind this. More likely, this is Trump promising Bolton his damn war in exchange for keeping his mouth shut during impeachment proceedings. I'm sure Putin is laughing his ass off, though.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
21. Well, Pompeo says he briefed Russia
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 02:57 PM
Jan 2020

Briefed Russia, but not Congress?!



Secretary Pompeo
@SecPompeo
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and I discussed the decisive defensive action
@realDonaldTrump
employed in Baghdad to protect American lives. I emphasized that de-escalation is the United States’ principal goal.

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