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Tennessee Hillbilly

(588 posts)
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 08:58 AM Jan 2020

Ex-Bush Aides Share Theory About Pelosi Delaying Trump's Senate Trial

Paul Rosenzweig tweeted Monday that Pelosi could want to ensure Trump “is still under impeachment” when he delivers a State of the Union address on Feb 4.

“Imagine what it would be like if he got to give the SOTU having been cleared by the Senate ― it would be a full-blown triumphal rant,” Rosenzweig wrote.

“But if the impeachment is still pending, it might, instead, be an unhinged narcissistic screed of almost unimaginable insanity,” he added. “Just think of how painful it would be for 53 Republican Senators to sit in the halls of Congress, watching a live meltdown on national TV. That, alone, would be worth the price of admission.”

“Maybe I’m wrong and this hasn’t crossed her mind ― but I love the idea,” he concluded.

[link:https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ex-bush-aides-trump-pelosi-trial_n_5e0b0b59e4b0b2520d1a96ac|

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Ex-Bush Aides Share Theory About Pelosi Delaying Trump's Senate Trial (Original Post) Tennessee Hillbilly Jan 2020 OP
I love it! PJMcK Jan 2020 #1
Dear Speaker Pelosi PuraVidaDreamin Jan 2020 #2
My thoughts exactly friends have mildly dismissed this conjecture I still think it is possible gordianot Jan 2020 #3
I doubt that theory very much bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #4
The impeachment is not "pending." klook Jan 2020 #5
Yes, this is true. Thank you!! He's already been impeached. Beartracks Jan 2020 #15
Brilliant idea! dhol82 Jan 2020 #6
I think this is exactly what she is doing localroger Jan 2020 #7
I think there will be True Blue American Jan 2020 #11
Well Said! The Roux Comes First Jan 2020 #13
HAPPY 2020! usaf-vet Jan 2020 #8
That may actually be the plan... paleotn Jan 2020 #9
Madame Speaker knows what she's doing, for sure... Wounded Bear Jan 2020 #10
Supremes are there plus tv watching public who usually doesn't tune in elias7 Jan 2020 #12
This is my 1600 post on DU. Glad to be part of this crowd. Let's all work, pray lobby, donate$ to... usaf-vet Jan 2020 #14
Roger Copy! We need VFW's and Vet Groups to pull support... MartyTheGreek Jan 2020 #16
ROGER that! usaf-vet Jan 2020 #17
Even if that's not the reason... Boomer Jan 2020 #18
The Democratic response to the SOTU Could. Be. Very. Interesting....... lastlib Jan 2020 #19
Speaker Pelosi has stated several times that the IPOTUS* will impeach himself... Hugin Jan 2020 #20
It's not just about scoring cheap points... B Stieg Jan 2020 #21

PJMcK

(22,048 posts)
1. I love it!
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:12 AM
Jan 2020

Dear Speaker Pelosi,

Please hold onto the Article of Impeachment until after the State of the Union address. The American public needs to see Trump as he truly is: a mentally unhinged, narcissistic evil man.

Then send the Articles to the Senate and watch those 53 Senators try to defend Trump.

Sincerely,
An American Patriot

PuraVidaDreamin

(4,109 posts)
2. Dear Speaker Pelosi
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:15 AM
Jan 2020

Please hold on to those articles until there is agreement on a fair trial that brings forth all the witnesses tRump is preventing from testifying.

gordianot

(15,244 posts)
3. My thoughts exactly friends have mildly dismissed this conjecture I still think it is possible
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:43 AM
Jan 2020

Trump and all his chest beating is a sure sign of a very fragile ego.

bucolic_frolic

(43,284 posts)
4. I doubt that theory very much
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:43 AM
Jan 2020

Pelosi would not count on predicting the unpredictable. Rather she is demonstrating her patriotic duty to fulfill her Constitutional obligations even if Trump, McConnell, and the entire GOP, won't.

The American people, on the whole, will know. Only Trump Republicans think they can get away with it.

klook

(12,165 posts)
5. The impeachment is not "pending."
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 09:50 AM
Jan 2020

Trump has been impeached! The trial is pending. His impeachment will stand, whether he’s convicted or not.

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
15. Yes, this is true. Thank you!! He's already been impeached.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 11:13 AM
Jan 2020

The trial just determines whether or not he gets removed.

Clinton was impeached but not removed, and I'm pretty sure Republicans crow about him being an impeached President. Well... They can't regard Trump as NOT impeached if the same thing happens to him.

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localroger

(3,630 posts)
7. I think this is exactly what she is doing
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:03 AM
Jan 2020

It may not be possible to predict whether Mount Trump will erupt on any particular day, but every day this drags on increases the chance that he will erupt and do something really stupid before it is over. And dragging it past SOTU is like leading a starving dog past a raw steak. He has shown he can't resist the urge to turn any public forum like that into a personal rally, and he will be itching to shout "exoneration!" at the cameras. Denying him that chance will drive him even more nuts than usual. It seems quite possible that this could finally lead to a "have you no shame" moment beyond which denial will become impossible for the non-MAGAt observers.

paleotn

(17,956 posts)
9. That may actually be the plan...
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:40 AM
Jan 2020

Certainly fun to watch. And I bet McConnell half thinks...maybe it would be better if we did. I think a lot of Republicans have been hoping for some sort of separation to occur between them, a sizable portion of their base and the orange shithead, giving them political cover to can his ass. A tall order, given the frankenstein monster they've created in the Republican electorate, but hope spring eternal. Maybe this will peal enough Republican voters away to warrant sacking him.

Wounded Bear

(58,706 posts)
10. Madame Speaker knows what she's doing, for sure...
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:45 AM
Jan 2020

She's pretty devious, and I mean that in a good way.

She's smart and knows politics in ways that Trump doesn't. Trump is a manipulative sonuvabitch who always thinks he's the smartest man in the room because he's good at pissing people off and making them reactive. His nemesis is always someone who maintains their cool and is pro-active rather than reactive. That's why Ms Pelosi and Mr Schiff have bested him in the House.

I tend to avoid Trump speeches, but a meltdown like that might be epic, kind of like a Lewis Black monologue on steroids.

elias7

(4,026 posts)
12. Supremes are there plus tv watching public who usually doesn't tune in
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:52 AM
Jan 2020

Could be a wonderfully dismal and absurd spectacle

usaf-vet

(6,207 posts)
14. This is my 1600 post on DU. Glad to be part of this crowd. Let's all work, pray lobby, donate$ to...
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 10:55 AM
Jan 2020

..... make sure one way or the other that this will be the year that DONALD J. TRUMP will be removed from office.

By Impeachment or by being voted out of office in November.

At 72 soon to be 73, I can honestly say I have never seen any individual that has done more to destroy our country.

I hope the history books will put him in the category with the worst of the worst in world history.

I'm going to do my part to make that happen.

One final note to all my fellow veterans.

Remember the oath we all took. To "support and defend the Constitution against ALL enemies foreign and domestic."

In my opinion, Trump fills both categories... foreign and domestic.

MartyTheGreek

(567 posts)
16. Roger Copy! We need VFW's and Vet Groups to pull support...
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 11:20 AM
Jan 2020

It's time! We need a bi-partisan retired group of Generals and Admirals, senior retired trusted cabinet staff, others who have been fired, to form a public panel covering the timeline of all of what transpired during this course, and take questions from the Press. A forum like The National Press Club or the like. A Citizens Hearing by those that know what happened, spell it out with charts quotes and graphics. Make it last 12 hours, hold a closed door meeting with Congress if needed while they are all there.

Last, but not the least is to find a path to restoring our Democracy!

Thank you and Honor your Service!

lastlib

(23,286 posts)
19. The Democratic response to the SOTU Could. Be. Very. Interesting.......
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 11:52 AM
Jan 2020

Assuming AnusMouth is still awaiting Senate trial, or if trial is in progress, I could see some beautiful things happening.

I think Kamala Harris could be the PERFECT choice to deliver that! A WOMAN, a woman of color, DAMNED smart, PLUS someone who could really give AnusMouth some SERIOUS hellfire!

Whaddyathink?

Hugin

(33,198 posts)
20. Speaker Pelosi has stated several times that the IPOTUS* will impeach himself...
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 12:01 PM
Jan 2020

And, it looks like she's giving him every opportunity.

(Yes, I know Old Yeller has already been Impeached by the US HoR, but, I think she's going for Impeachment in the Court of Public Opinion. Remember, Impeachment is a political event and not really a judicial gig.)

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
21. It's not just about scoring cheap points...
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 12:01 PM
Jan 2020

THIS is the problem, what Dan Froomkin calls "Winning the half-hour."
It takes more than 30 minutes to run a country!

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