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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOh My - Breaking - Judge Dismisses lawsuit from Bolton Aid who refused
to Testify at Impeachment hearing
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/30/kupperman-ukraine-lawsuit-dismiss-091407
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A federal judge on Monday scrapped an effort by a former top aide to John Bolton to determine whether he could be required to testify before House impeachment investigators, declaring the matter moot and outside the courts power to resolve.
Charles Kupperman, who was Boltons deputy when Bolton was national security adviser, filed suit in October after he was subpoenaed by the House Intelligence Committee but ordered to ignore the subpoena by President Donald Trump. In his suit, Kupperman asked for a judges help to resolve the conflicting demands.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,706 posts)The case was dismissed for mootness, so not as big a deal as we might think.
malaise
(269,004 posts)TruckFump
(5,812 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)House Democrats withdrew the subpoena and rendered the case moot.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,706 posts)angrychair
(8,699 posts)Do we know why they withdrew the subpoena?
Is the legislative branch giving up and allowing the executive branch to defy Congress?
Asking as I have no context for why Congress would withdraw the subpoena and not continue to hold these people accountable for not complying with a lawful subpoena from Congress.
slumcamper
(1,606 posts)Equally disconcerting.
2naSalit
(86,633 posts)Judiciary is not interested in getting involved, can't blame them.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)So there was no point in continuing the case.
elleng
(130,914 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,706 posts)"[T]here is no case that supports the proposition that naked lawyers' assurances are themselves sufficient." I don't know if I'd trust the assurances of naked lawyers, either.
al bupp
(2,179 posts)I assume that the judge meant the "naked" to modify the assurances, not the lawyers themselves, e.g.: lawyers' naked assurances instead of naked lawyers' assurances, though the latter is decidedly more amusing.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,706 posts)Some lawyers shouldn't be naked (Rudy Giuliani and Bill Barr, I'm talking to you).
al bupp
(2,179 posts)Imagine a one w/ a dangling participle, for instance.
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)bdamomma
(63,849 posts)nt
2naSalit
(86,633 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,706 posts)It won't mean much because the case was dismissed for mootness because the subpoena was withdrawn.
2naSalit
(86,633 posts)But what will be the *reason* offered for defying the subpoena then? That's what I want to see. They come up with some real crazy stuff. Surely there will be more stonewalling.
Granted the case being dropped by the House should have settled it but I think they needed to hear it from the judge. So it's back to them against the House again, the Constitution stands, for now.
spanone
(135,838 posts)We can dream
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)FBaggins
(26,740 posts)The House withdrew the subpoena almost eight weeks ago.
progressoid
(49,990 posts)onenote
(42,703 posts)If you did, I guess you missed the part where the judge discusses the motions to dismiss, the briefing on that motion and the oral argument on the motions.
MasonDreams
(756 posts)Cartaphelius
(868 posts)Cover-Ups, absent the Naked Involvement Of Lawyers, Are
Criminal.
But As Long As They Remain Secretly Involved no crime is
committed?
Something really stinks as it remains a verifiable number
of Lawyers, who then become judges or Supreme Court
Judges, do so as criminals that haven't been caught, yet.